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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Looks like Windows 7 starter only runs on netbooks, and you can't get it normally. Bummer. I'd swap out the hard drive in your PC with a new one, install Lubuntu, try it out, and if it doesn't work you just take it out, pop your old one in, and you're back to normal.

Sounds like a plan to me. I was going to start by putting it on my laptop, or netbook so I'd be able to try it without messing too much with my desktop for what I use for working as of now. Just to make sure I understand everything before diving all the way in. Worst comes to worse, my netbook doesn't even hold a charge on the battery anyway.

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Just now, zMeul said:

nop, my main rig is for gaming and right now Linux gaming is still not a thing

I guess when the only game I play is CS:GO and YouTube I forget that things like Witcher is not supported on Linux...

 

haha. I don't get out much in the gaming world.

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11 minutes ago, fpo said:

1. What's the differences between Xubuntu and Kubuntu from the rest?

 

2. What are the benefits, and reasons to use that (Xubuntu) over other OS varients?

1: the window manager mostly (LXDE, XFCE, KDE, gnome)

 

2: personal preference mostly, although from my experience, xubuntu is the best implementation of the vareous *buntu's, other than ubuntu itself offcourse :P.  Kubuntu is a good example for the opposite end of this, it's great once it's set up, but it's literally just ubuntu with KDE slapped on top with zero thought given to a propper match in between.

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1 minute ago, manikyath said:

1: the window manager mostly (LXDE, XFCE, KDE, gnome)

 

2: personal preference mostly, although from my experience, xubuntu is the best implementation of the vareous *buntu's, other than ubuntu itself offcourse :P.  Kubuntu is a good example for the opposite end of this, it's great once it's set up, but it's literally just ubuntu with KDE slapped on top with zero thought given to a propper match in between.

What window manager is the most efficient/light weight?

I've heard of LXDE and LXQT but I wasn't sure they had anything to do with Ubuntu.

 

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Just now, fpo said:

What window manager is the most efficient/light weight?

I've heard of LXDE and LXQT but I wasn't sure they had anything to do with Ubuntu.

 

LXDE is the lightest among the ones i've used, but on at least a semi-modern system the difference with XFCE is so minor that you should honestly just go with what is honestly the smoother experience.

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2 minutes ago, manikyath said:

LXDE is the lightest among the ones i've used, but on at least a semi-modern system the difference with XFCE is so minor that you should honestly just go with what is honestly the smoother experience.

1. Is XFCE a full blown OS, or just a desktop/window manager?

2. If it's a window manager should I install that over Lubuntu to have Lubuntu run faster/better?

3. Did you mean LXLE instead of XFCE?

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those lightweight desktops are good for ten year old computers with single core CPU and less than 1GB of ram. If you have a multi-core CPU and 2GB or more of RAM you will not see any performance loss using stock Ubuntu

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4 hours ago, fpo said:

1. Is XFCE a full blown OS, or just a desktop/window manager?

2. If it's a window manager should I install that over Lubuntu to have Lubuntu run faster/better?

3. Did you mean LXLE instead of XFCE?

You can install any desktop/window manager over stock ubuntu

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47 minutes ago, fpo said:

Awesome! I'm going to try and see if I can get a Windows XP style window manager!

Get LXDE or XFCE. They're light and you can make them use the same layout as Windows XP. I personally think LXDE's file manager is better than XFCE's, FWIW. Also, keep an eye out for LXQt. It's not at v1.0 yet, but I hear it's pretty stable as it is and it's going to replace LXDE eventually.

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44 minutes ago, noahdvs said:

Get LXDE or XFCE. They're light and you can make them use the same layout as Windows XP. I personally think LXDE's file manager is better than XFCE's, FWIW. Also, keep an eye out for LXQt. It's not at v1.0 yet, but I hear it's pretty stable as it is and it's going to replace LXDE eventually.

Thanks! I tried installing Lubuntu earlier to my laptop but I couldn't figure out the partitioning requirements, nor some odd error I forgot the name of. I'll check again tomorrow it's super late for me right now.

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23 minutes ago, fpo said:

Thanks! I tried installing Lubuntu earlier to my laptop but I couldn't figure out the partitioning requirements, nor some odd error I forgot the name of. I'll check again tomorrow it's super late for me right now.

What's the problem? Btw, if you have trouble installing a *ubuntu distro, you can try installing the server version of Ubuntu with manual package selection enabled (should be default, but use arrow keys and the spacebar to select if necessary). Once you're logged in, you can install any desktop environment in the repository using the terminal. To install Lubuntu from the terminal, you would use `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop`.

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11 hours ago, noahdvs said:

What's the problem? Btw, if you have trouble installing a *ubuntu distro, you can try installing the server version of Ubuntu with manual package selection enabled (should be default, but use arrow keys and the spacebar to select if necessary). Once you're logged in, you can install any desktop environment in the repository using the terminal. To install Lubuntu from the terminal, you would use `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop`.

The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into / targer/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.

 

I don't know what that means or how to fix it.

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5 hours ago, fpo said:

The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into / targer/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.

 

I don't know what that means or how to fix it.

Did you make the installation media with Rufus?

Grub is a boot loader (I think). It's the thing that lets you pick which operating system to boot into. Your system probably has UEFI if it came with Windows 8 or later, so you need the EFI signed version of grub. AMD64 is X86-64 bit, but you probably knew that.

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20 minutes ago, noahdvs said:

Did you make the installation media with Rufus?

Grub is a boot loader (I think). It's the thing that lets you pick which operating system to boot into. Your system probably has UEFI if it came with Windows 8 or later, so you need the EFI signed version of grub. AMD64 is X86-64 bit, but you probably knew that.

I have Unetbootin as that's what Ubuntu/Lubuntu recommended.

 

My laptop came with windows 8 (or 8.1)

Lenovo Y40-70 i7, 16 gb ram model.

 

I downloaded the 64 bit version of Lubuntu which works fine when "trying" Lubuntu off USB.

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26 minutes ago, fpo said:

I have Unetbootin as that's what Ubuntu/Lubuntu recommended.

 

My laptop came with windows 8 (or 8.1)

Lenovo Y40-70 i7, 16 gb ram model.

 

I downloaded the 64 bit version of Lubuntu which works fine when "trying" Lubuntu off USB.

Try Rufus. It only works on Windows though. https://rufus.akeo.ie/

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4 hours ago, fpo said:

Just reinstalled the bootloader with Rufus to my flash drive and the installation crashed again with the same error as I had with UnetBootin

I can't really help you any more. Try installing Ubuntu Server instead and install Lubuntu with apt like I mentioned above.

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On ‎4‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 0:26 AM, noahdvs said:

I can't really help you any more. Try installing Ubuntu Server instead and install Lubuntu with apt like I mentioned above.

I solved the issue by using Unetbootin.

I didn't select an .iso file. Instead I used the OS selector and chose Lubuntu and the x64 based version of 16.04 (I think) and installed it on my laptop.

 

I have a 64 bit PC so I chose x64 incase if future people look at this and wonder how I solved my problem.

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Also if you have a decent sized flash drive (16-64gb) you can use YUMI to set up multiple distros to test. Plug in your USB, set highest boot priority, pick Lubuntu, Xubuntu, or any distro that you have installed and give it a test spin. After you test them all out you can simply choose the "install" icon that should be on the desktop of your live OS.

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