Ryzen 1700 build help

[G-man UK]

Hi there.
I'm planning a Ryzen build to use as both a workstation, gaming and streaming rig.
I've somewhat got an idea of the components, but would like a second opinion on the list.

AMD Ryzen 1700

MSI B350 TOMAHAWK

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2x4GB) 3000mhz

WD Blue 1TB

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Superclocked

Noctua NH-U12S cooler

EVGA 100-W1-0500-K3 - 500W

NZXT CA-S340MB-GR Source 340 Midi Tower:

I don't have much of a budget currently, but from what I've found this is my cheapest list I've been able to make.



 

[Slottr]

Use PCpartpicker, youll be able to find the cheapest parts on there quite easily.

[Armakar]

would upgrade the motherboard if possible , 1700 overclocks pretty well

[DocSwag]

Looks good, but things I'd change:

 

OH GOD THAT POWER SUPPLY. Get an S12ii or M12ii instead.

 

Get an SSD. Plz. A 120gb is fine. You can get like a Trion 150 or Ultra II 120gb for $70-$80.

 

In this day and age considering everything else you should get 16gb RAM . I'd suggest G Skill Ripjaws V 3200 MHz 2x8gb. It's about $120.

 

If you want to save a few bucks you could just not get an extra cooler and use the stock, but that's up to you.

[Princess Luna]

Avoid Msi motherboards, for ryzen either AsRock and Asus have been giving the best performance.

Don't buy 2x4gb that is a waste of DIMMs get a single 1x8gb and add another later.

Get a seagate HDD instead

Why not RX480 since it's AMD CPU? It is cheaper and pretty much the same performance give or take.

Better Power supply if possible the 550w EVGA G2 (worth it)

get a ssd sandisk plus 120gb for boot.

[Drak01112]

PCpartpicker list (Note: Ram is replaced with one stick as I can not find 3000mhz and one stick allows for upgrades)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $898.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:09 EDT-0400

 

 

PLEASE TELL US YOUR BUDGET.

Recommended changes:

SSD would be a nice addition but prices are rising

As said 1x8GB ram would allow for upgrades.

PSU is NOT a good choice go for one of above choices. (IE: seasonic)

 

Edited build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Kingston Savage 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($83.79 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($48.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB D5 6G Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1010.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:25 EDT-0400

 

This is factoring in other comments and I went for some cheap components because budget.

Edited April 10, 2017 by Drak01112
Corrections and etc.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Drak01112 said:

PCpartpicker list (Note: Ram is replaced with one stick as I can not find 3000mhz and one stick allows for upgrades)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($57.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($38.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $838.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:05 EDT-0400

Ew bad PSU.

 

1060 3gb ew.

 

That's all I have to say  

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Avoid Msi motherboards, for ryzen either AsRock and Asus have been giving the best performance.

Don't buy 2x4gb that is a waste of DIMMs get a single 1x8gb and add another later.

Get a seagate HDD instead

Why not RX480 since it's AMD CPU? It is cheaper and pretty much the same performance give or take.

Better Power supply if possible the 550w EVGA G2 (worth it)

get a ssd sandisk plus 120gb for boot.

No rx 480 cuz 1060 for CUDA I'd assume.

 

An S12ii is probably fine honestly

 

SSD Plus is absolute trash . A Trion 150 or Ultra II would be way better.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7726/sandisk-ssd-plus-z410-sata-iii-review/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,4833-8.html

[Drak01112]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Ew bad PSU.

 

1060 3gb ew.

 

That's all I have to say  

No rx 480 cuz 1060 for CUDA I'd assume.

 

An S12ii is probably fine honestly

 

SSD Plus is absolute trash . A Trion 150 or Ultra II would be way better.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7726/sandisk-ssd-plus-z410-sata-iii-review/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,4833-8.html

I am just posting his PCpartpicker list

[DocSwag]

Just now, Drak01112 said:

I am just posting his PCpartpicker list

 my bad.

 

EDIT: Well it's actually not the same, OP had faster and 2 sticks of ram.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, DocSwag said:

SSD Plus is absolute trash

It isn't, based on personal experience of the 5 sandisk plus g26 I have, all function perfectly fine with no real world performance difference from the MX300 which I also have by, the oldest one that is now 5 months old last tme I checked this sartuday still showed the exact same write and read speeds from brand new.

 

They are an extremely solid pick for budget, don't blind trust some reviews here and there, what really counts is it's real world usage [:

 

But as long as you don't recommend a shitty Kingston ssd instead I'm not gonna get upset at you

[Drak01112]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

 my bad.

 

EDIT: Well it's actually not the same, OP had faster and 2 sticks of ram.

Could not find correct RAM and well 1 stick is better =P

[HKman]

The included Wraith Spire CPU-cooler seems to be enough if you don't need to push the OC to much, like keeping it at 3.8 or bellow. As memory speeds is crucial for Ryzen performance I would suggest to double check the MB's RAM compatability.

[Drak01112]

1 minute ago, HKman said:

The included Wraith Spire CPU-cooler seems to be enough if you don't need to push the OC to much, like keeping it at 3.8 or bellow. As memory speeds is crucial for Ryzen performance I would suggest to double check the MB's RAM compatability.

It is (Rated for 95W on a 65W CPU), but still OP would probably want high OC

[HKman]

3 minutes ago, Drak01112 said:

It is (Rated for 95W on a 65W CPU), but still OP would probably want high OC

But OP also seems budget conscious so taking a 5ish% performance hit to save roughly $50 might be attractive. I have similar plans.

Edited April 10, 2017 by HKman
Adding context.

[Drak01112]

Just now, HKman said:

But OP also seems budget conscious so taking a 5ish% performance hit to save roughly $50 might be attractive.

$900 so far? OP has abandoned this post (maybe?). So lets stop necroposting.

[G-man UK]

I forgot about partpicker 

 

I'm not too concerned about overclocking at least until my next build a few years from now. I'll be able to get some decent water cooling by then.Ideally.
(probably should have mentioned, sorry.)
 

I'll have another look for motherboards, thanks for the heads up!
For the ram I was going off the pretense of "dual channel performance" upon looking I can see that it's a myth or so they say. (is that still correct?)
I originally was going to go for an MSI GTX 1070 (I think... well a 1070 for sure), but in all honesty I'm not too fond of anything higher than 1080p gaming.
I did consider the RX 480 but "Tech Deals" pretty much sold me on the 1060 superclock. The 8gb of vram on the 480 is quite tempting though.

As for the cooler suggestion, I chose the noctua for its performance and how quiet it is.

(My current rig runs an AMD Athlon II X2 240 and hearing the fans at an almost constant 50 - 100% speed can be distracting even with headphones on)

Oh yeah as for an SSD I was planning on doing that later down the line and moving the OS to it.




 

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Hqh8K
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Hqh8K/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($97.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: *PNY GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB CG Video Card  ($221.61 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1093.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:43 EDT-0400

[Drak01112]

1 minute ago, G-man UK said:

I forgot about partpicker 

 

I'm not too concerned about overclocking at least until my next build a few years from now. I'll be able to get some decent water cooling by then.Ideally.
(probably should have mentioned, sorry.)
 

I'll have another look for motherboards, thanks for the heads up!
For the ram I was going off the pretense of "dual channel performance" upon looking I can see that it's a myth or so they say. (is that still correct?)
I originally was going to go for an MSI GTX 1070 (I think... well a 1070 for sure), but in all honesty I'm not too fond of anything higher than 1080p gaming.
I did consider the RX 480 but "Tech Deals" pretty much sold me on the 1060 superclock. The 8gb of vram on the 480 is quite tempting though.

As for the cooler suggestion, I chose the noctua for its performance and how quiet it is.

(My current rig runs an AMD Athlon II X2 240 and hearing the fans at an almost constant 50 - 100% speed can be distracting even with headphones on)

Oh yeah as for an SSD I was planning on doing that later down the line and moving the OS to it.

Don't forget about the PSU!

Your budget is around $900 right?

Yep dual channel performance is still a myth.

Look for m.2 on your Motherboard for m.2 SSDs, but Optane is going to use DIMM slots in future soooooo yeah.

[LienusLateTips]

Also

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6KsmvV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6KsmvV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.75 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($97.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1051.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-10 19:44 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Drak01112 said:

Don't forget about the PSU!

Your budget is around $900 right?

Yep dual channel performance is still a myth.

Look for m.2 on your Motherboard for m.2 SSDs, but Optane is going to use DIMM slots in future soooooo yeah.

Optane on Ryzen? WHAAA TEACH ME HOW

[Drak01112]

Just now, JDE said:

Optane on Ryzen? WHAAA TEACH ME HOW

No official support as in drivers.but I mean it should still work (Might need software for DIMM optane). and I think the other company working with Intel for 3D X-point has their own version that they are working on?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Drak01112 said:

No official support as in drivers.but I mean it should still work (Might need software for DIMM optane). and I think the other company working with Intel for 3D X-point has their own version that they are working on?

Wasn't it Micron?

[Drak01112]

Just now, JDE said:

Wasn't it Micron?

Yeah

[G-man UK]

Thanks for the help! I'll be sure to let yall know when I finally get this built (with some benchmarks ofc)

 

 

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

It isn't, based on personal experience of the 5 sandisk plus g26 I have, all function perfectly fine with no real world performance difference from the MX300 which I also have by, the oldest one that is now 5 months old last tme I checked this sartuday still showed the exact same write and read speeds from brand new.

 

They are an extremely solid pick for budget, don't blind trust some reviews here and there, what really counts is it's real world usage [:

 

But as long as you don't recommend a shitty Kingston ssd instead I'm not gonna get upset at you

Transfer speeds are a lot worse though. They advertise it as MLC, yet some units use TLC, which just show you how messed up it is. When you could get a better ssd for a similar price, I honestly can't recommend it. Something like a Trion 150 or Ultra II would be a much better choice.