My firstever build

[crzyces]

3 minutes ago, Romerrr said:

The only problem us the price of ram and i would like a new hdd first as an 8 year old 160 gb hdd is bound to fail soon

Ouch, I missed the HDD. I have a few 250gb 7200 sata I'd give away (You could just plug them in and run all 3 hd's, using one as a boot drive) but the shipping would be roughly what a 1 terabyte 10,000 would cost on ebay. Check out local pc shops for the HD, you may be able to snag a 500gb 5200 for like $5 usd. Also, they give away adapters and connectors at local pc shops quite a bit, and you can never have too many wires, especially if you get into building. Same with cheap cases, mice, keyboards, case fans, old cpu fans and heatsinks etc.

 

If you stay on the budget route you should really get into overclocking, as you can 1. Get very good performance from dated parts. 2. You can start selling them yourself after you are sure you have the oc stable. Once it's stable, set it back, and mention in the item description that it was oc'd to x.xxx to stress test, then reset to factory. You will be willing to do a safe overclock for them before shipping if they want for an additional $5-$10. Great way to make extra $ to build newer and better (and maybe pay a bill or two ;^) . Good fun. And no, you do not need water cooling to OC a cpu unless you are going for extreme oc's. Good airflow works just fine for most oc's on aftermarket coolers (like I can't get the 3570k stable over 4.2GHz with the stock intel fan).

 

This isn't an oc'ing thread though, so I'll knock it off now.

[Romerrr]

5 minutes ago, crzyces said:

Ouch, I missed the HDD. I have a few 250gb 7200 sata I'd give away (You could just plug them in and run all 3 hd's, using one as a boot drive) but the shipping would be roughly what a 1 terabyte 10,000 would cost on ebay. Check out local pc shops for the HD, you may be able to snag a 500gb 5200 for like $5 usd. Also, they give away adapters and connectors at local pc shops quite a bit, and you can never have too many wires, especially if you get into building. Same with cheap cases, mice, keyboards, case fans, old cpu fans and heatsinks etc.

 

If you stay on the budget route you should really get into overclocking, as you can 1. Get very good performance from dated parts. 2. You can start selling them yourself after you are sure you have the oc stable. Once it's stable, set it back, and mention in the item description that it was oc'd to x.xxx to stress test, then reset to factory. You will be willing to do a safe overclock for them before shipping if they want for an additional $5-$10. Great way to make extra $ to build newer and better (and maybe pay a bill or two ;^) . Good fun. And no, you do not need water cooling to OC a cpu unless you are going for extreme oc's. Good airflow works just fine for most oc's on aftermarket coolers (like I can't get the 3570k stable over 4.2GHz with the stock intel fan).

 

This isn't an oc'ing thread though, so I'll knock it off now.

My problem is i live in a small town so any hardware aquired has to be on the internet as the closest city only has bigg stores who charge 70 euros for a freaking 250gb hdd 5200rpm so im open to second hand shopping but then again small town not manypeople selling hardware

[Not_Sean]

Great build man, I just picked up a 580 for nothing, super keen to see how these older GPU's hold up, only thing I would add/ Beging begging/saving for is a SSD. I'd go for a 240gb as you'll fill up a 120/128 fast and than have to begin saving all over again... 

[Romerrr]

4 hours ago, Not_Sean said:

Great build man, I just picked up a 580 for nothing, super keen to see how these older GPU's hold up, only thing I would add/ Beging begging/saving for is a SSD. I'd go for a 240gb as you'll fill up a 120/128 fast and than have to begin saving all over again... 

I would rather go to raw capacity over speed as i just  came from weak pcs so hdd acess speed isnt much of an issue compared to capacity

4 hours ago, Not_Sean said:

Great build man, I just picked up a 580 for nothing, super keen to see how these older GPU's hold up, only thing I would add/ Beging begging/saving for is a SSD. I'd go for a 240gb as you'll fill up a 120/128 fast and than have to begin saving all over again... 

I actualy love buying second hand stuff as it is so rewarding and holding the hardware that a couple of years ago you couldnt afford plus seeing how itnholds up against newer machines

[Drak01112]

Just now, Romerrr said:

I would rather go to raw capacity over speed as i just  came from weak pcs so hdd acess speed isnt much of an issue compared to capacity

Yeah SSDs don't make much difference other than application launch time and etc. Once you get like 1TB of storage you could start thinking of a SSD, otherwise just go for capacity. 

[Not_Sean]

2 minutes ago, Romerrr said:

I would rather go to raw capacity over speed as i just  came from weak pcs so hdd acess speed isnt much of an issue compared to capacity

trust me when I say the SSD will make you feel like you got a i7 in there. its IMO the biggest single upgrade you can do, Also 240gb is a lot for games. I've got a lot of my steam library on it and not having any troubles. 

@Drak01112 Yes it only makes a difference on application, Game load times and open world games run smoother. Its a huge step up. What do you do on a PC that wouldn't benefit from faster launch and load times ? 

Trust me, its worth it. will mind blast you ! 

[Drak01112]

Just now, Not_Sean said:

trust me when I say the SSD will make you feel like you got a i7 in there. its IMO the biggest single upgrade you can do, Also 240gb is a lot for games. I've got a lot of my steam library on it and not having any troubles. 

@Drak01112 Yes it only makes a difference on application, Game load times and open world games run smoother. Its a huge step up. What do you do on a PC that wouldn't benefit from faster launch and load times ? 

Trust me, its worth it. will mind blast you ! 

I have a 120GB SSD. all of that is negated by all the hard drives that have to boot up and applications on startup. It isn't worth it, if you were running a 5200 RPM drive it would be a godsend BUT he is NOT running a 5200RPM drive.

[crzyces]

44 minutes ago, Romerrr said:

My problem is i live in a small town so any hardware aquired has to be on the internet as the closest city only has bigg stores who charge 70 euros for a freaking 250gb hdd 5200rpm so im open to second hand shopping but then again small town not manypeople selling hardware

Something like this might work well. Not the biggest (600 gb) but 10,0000rpm for $68 usd ($62 euros)?

Western Digital WD6000HLHX

VelociRaptor

3.5"

10000RPM

 

Another option used http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagate-Barracuda-1TB-1000GB-Sata-Desktop-3-5-Hard-Drive-ST31000528AS-7200RPM-/302278487165?hash=item466133ac7d:g:p28AAOSwc49Y6qfC

 

$25.50 Euros. Decent storage and speed, good brand.

[Jito463]

Just wanted to correct something I've seen throughout this thread.  It's not 5200 RPM, it's 5400 RPM.  With the exception of low-power HDDs such as WD's Green drives, which are 5900 RPM.

[Romerrr]

13 hours ago, crzyces said:

Something like this might work well. Not the biggest (600 gb) but 10,0000rpm for $68 usd ($62 euros)?

Western Digital WD6000HLHX

VelociRaptor

3.5"

10000RPM

 

Another option used http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagate-Barracuda-1TB-1000GB-Sata-Desktop-3-5-Hard-Drive-ST31000528AS-7200RPM-/302278487165?hash=item466133ac7d:g:p28AAOSwc49Y6qfC

 

$25.50 Euros. Decent storage and speed, good brand.

Arent 10000rpm drives only made for SAS and not SATA

[crzyces]

3 hours ago, Romerrr said:

Arent 10000rpm drives only made for SAS and not SATA

Nope, definitely made for sata 3.0 and up.

[Jito463]

5 hours ago, Romerrr said:

Arent 10000rpm drives only made for SAS and not SATA

The first generation WD Raptors (10k RPM) were for the original SATA 150, not even SATA II.

[Romerrr]

3 hours ago, crzyces said:

Nope, definitely made for sata 3.0 and up.

All i found in online stores were 10rpm 2.5 SAS all SATA were only up to 7200

[HUSKER222]

hey man cool build to learn how to build a computer with.

[crzyces]

11 minutes ago, Romerrr said:

All i found in online stores were 10rpm 2.5 SAS all SATA were only up to 7200

Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD1000CHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" $149 @ Newegg. There are tons, in 2.5" and 3.5".

[Romerrr]

1 hour ago, HUSKER222 said:

hey man cool build to learn how to build a computer with.

i think it was the most rewarding thing i done so far especially cuz all worked first time 

 

[HUSKER222]

7 minutes ago, Romerrr said:

i think it was the most rewarding thing i done so far especially cuz all worked first time 

 

yeah man good job. Honestly if you want a really good machine for cheaper bread build an AMD 83-- whatever. 8 bills can get you a really decent one with a 1060. built a mini for my nephew with a 1060 the mini 1060 with 3gb and it was about 7 somethin all together.

 

[crzyces]

15 minutes ago, HUSKER222 said:

yeah man good job. Honestly if you want a really good machine for cheaper bread build an AMD 83-- whatever. 8 bills can get you a really decent one with a 1060. built a mini for my nephew with a 1060 the mini 1060 with 3gb and it was about 7 somethin all together.

 

(Romerrr)

 

No no. Your next build should be an x5650 6 core 12 thread Xeon build.

 

Specs: x5650 oc'd to 4.5 (it can go higher, but we are keeping the gigantic heatsink and stock side blowing fan)

Mobo: Gigabyte Pro LG1333 X99 (2x PCIe 2.0 x16 dedicated, 1 PCIe x8, 3 PCIe x4, 2 PCIe x 1, 6 usb 3.0, 4 usb 2.0, 6 DDR 3 tri channel slots, 9 4 pin connectors?)

RAM: 6x4 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 (Board only supports 24 gb of RAM which is weird for a server board)

Package buy it now $150 + 15.95 shipping (I bought it, waiting for some other parts, and it only came with 12 gigs of ram)

Power Supply 750 watt Be-Quiet $79 from Newegg

GPU: 2 Saphire Nitro++ 4gb (oc'd to 1.32 factory) $368 for pair

Blu-Ray DvD/RW Free from my closet

3 case fans Free from old pc's

1 10000 WD 250 sata HD ($15 from pc place I interned at)

1 7200 1tb Seagate ($5 from old shop again)

 

Building my own case ($15 usd maybe?)

 

So $630 usd total. Wait, Windows 10 License $10, so $640.

 

Go with the 5650 build, you cannot go wrong!

[HUSKER222]

13 hours ago, crzyces said:

(Romerrr)

 

No no. Your next build should be an x5650 6 core 12 thread Xeon build.

 

Specs: x5650 oc'd to 4.5 (it can go higher, but we are keeping the gigantic heatsink and stock side blowing fan)

Mobo: Gigabyte Pro LG1333 X99 (2x PCIe 2.0 x16 dedicated, 1 PCIe x8, 3 PCIe x4, 2 PCIe x 1, 6 usb 3.0, 4 usb 2.0, 6 DDR 3 tri channel slots, 9 4 pin connectors?)

RAM: 6x4 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 (Board only supports 24 gb of RAM which is weird for a server board)

Package buy it now $150 + 15.95 shipping (I bought it, waiting for some other parts, and it only came with 12 gigs of ram)

Power Supply 750 watt Be-Quiet $79 from Newegg

GPU: 2 Saphire Nitro++ 4gb (oc'd to 1.32 factory) $368 for pair

Blu-Ray DvD/RW Free from my closet

3 case fans Free from old pc's

1 10000 WD 250 sata HD ($15 from pc place I interned at)

1 7200 1tb Seagate ($5 from old shop again)

 

Building my own case ($15 usd maybe?)

 

So $630 usd total. Wait, Windows 10 License $10, so $640.

 

Go with the 5650 build, you cannot go wrong!

thats a server processor though.  not that its not super powerful but you can get an 83-- with 8 cores. ive never personally used xeon processsors i do however have a buddy with dual xeon processors he swears by it.

[r3d3mpt10n]

Ignore all the negative comments.You don't owe anyone an explanation. 1 question  - Is the PSU 80 Plus Rated? that and adding another 4gb RAM would be a good idea

[HUSKER222]

@r3d3mpt10n couldnt be more right to be honest. We can all sit her all day and tell you what we would do.. Good job on your first build its rewarding. Its almost like the first time having sex you have no idea what your doing hoping everything goes where its suppose to and when its over its usually over way to quick and youre wanting some more :-) 

[crzyces]

4 hours ago, HUSKER222 said:

thats a server processor though.  not that its not super powerful but you can get an 83-- with 8 cores. ive never personally used xeon processsors i do however have a buddy with dual xeon processors he swears by it.

It's essentially an i7, normally on Intel's best silicon (Hence the difference in price at launch) so you can oc the poop out of them. They are cheap as heck, though the boards are expensive so finding the board and proc together is ussually the way to go). They game awesome. On youtube just google OC an x5650 and watch the benchmarking. Sick sick sick. I think Linus has a good one.

 

Hopefully you will keep on building, as it is an awesome hobby, and better job (What's better than getting paid for doing something you really enjoy?). Keep having fun man.

1 hour ago, r3d3mpt10n said:

Ignore all the negative comments.You don't owe anyone an explanation. 1 question  - Is the PSU 80 Plus Rated? that and adding another 4gb RAM would be a good idea

Husk, my comment was not negative at all. I gave him props when he first started the thread. It makes me happy irl when new ppl start building and are proud of it. Some ppl catch the gambling bug, some catch the building bug. One wrecks families, the other is fun, can help others, and make money!

[HUSKER222]

im sorry i wasnt saying it was

[HUSKER222]

i was agreeing with you saying that first and foremost redemption is right

[HUSKER222]

yeah sorry about that @r3d3mpt10n i wasnt trying to disagree i was totally with you on what you were saying sorry about the confusion