CPU Upgrade?

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

just get it from the factory like that. 

yeah, i overclocked the current ram to get better performance out of my APU, but ended up with forgetting to change the voltage hahahah, overheating ensured.

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, i overclocked the current ram to get better performance out of my APU, but ended up with forgetting to change the voltage hahahah, overheating ensured.

these both should do well https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231873&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231878&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

[asand1]

I was (am) a cheap ass. I would get an i7 2600K, 8GB more DDR3, and a mobo and call it a day until you can get your RX 480 or whatever for your b-day. All these recommendations are solid and would build a great machine, but they all seem out of your budget. I played GTA5 on high settings, 1080p, 60FPS on an i7-2600 (non-K), 16GB, and GTX 960. I believe extra cores will be necessary in the next couple of years and an i3 or i5, while fast, wont meet recommended retirements for core count on more and more games.

[nobiggieBIG]

9 minutes ago, asand1 said:

I was (am) a cheap ass. I would get an i7 2600K, 8GB more DDR3, and a mobo and call it a day until you can get your RX 480 or whatever for your b-day. All these recommendations are solid and would build a great machine, but they all seem out of your budget. I played GTA5 on high settings, 1080p, 60FPS on an i7-2600 (non-K), 16GB, and GTX 960. I believe extra cores will be necessary in the next couple of years and an i3 or i5, while fast, wont meet recommended retirements for core count on more and more games.

ill more than likely hit up CEX for the CPU. what if i went with a GTX 1070 and had that extra money? would it be bottlenecked, and if so by how much? I7 2600k

 

[asand1]

24 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

ill more than likely hit up CEX for the CPU. what if i went with a GTX 1070 and had that extra money? would it be bottlenecked, and if so by how much? I7 2600k

 

Looks like a GTX 1060 will bottleneck a i7 2600k GTX1060 98% i7-2600k 57% 

 

[asand1]

The 1070 looks like a closer match at GPU 43% and CPU 65%

 

[nobiggieBIG]

@asand1 so get the i7-2600k and oc it, then stick with my GTX 760, then get a 980ti/1070

[asand1]

5 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

@asand1 so get the i7-2600k and oc it, then stick with my GTX 760, then get a 980ti/1070

That's what I would do myself. It all depends on your budget and expectations. That should do 1080p gaming for a few years with good frames. 

[nobiggieBIG]

2 minutes ago, asand1 said:

That's what I would do myself. It all depends on your budget and expectations. That should do 1080p gaming for a few years with good frames. 

okay, thanks dud!

[Conan1600]

so here is the problem with most advice. they never take into account all the little things. what type of monitor do you game on? are you planning an upgrade. are you disappointed in your current pc because you do not get enough fps? does it lag, does it stutter? is browsing slow? so if you are happy gaming on the monitor you have now, or are planning to upgrade to a 1080 from 900p or 720p then your gpu while dated will do the job on most games but will require tweaking of settings at 1080p. your cpu on the other hand is a little slow.

 

despite what people say any i5 past ivy bridge will do 60 fps with a decent gpu on any game at 1080. i do not think you should go back to sandy bridge at this point though. it is all about your equipment use case. most here will not be satisfied until everyone is running a 1080ti to push the same 60 fps on a 60 fps monitor that you get from a 960

 

others will understand the stupidity in that but then declare you must buy acore i7000,  ultrawide 8k 3 bazillion hz monitor and a 1080 ti quad sli now (yeah well quad sli was possible) or you can not possibly enjoy gaming and you are a loser. in the end mate its about your wallet and your hardware. what makes you happy?

[asand1]

18 minutes ago, Conan1600 said:

so here is the problem with most advice. they never take into account all the little things. what type of monitor do you game on? are you planning an upgrade. are you disappointed in your current pc because you do not get enough fps? does it lag, does it stutter? is browsing slow? so if you are happy gaming on the monitor you have now, or are planning to upgrade to a 1080 from 900p or 720p then your gpu while dated will do the job on most games but will require tweaking of settings at 1080p. your cpu on the other hand is a little slow.

 

despite what people say any i5 past ivy bridge will do 60 fps with a decent gpu on any game at 1080. i do not think you should go back to sandy bridge at this point though. it is all about your equipment use case. most here will not be satisfied until everyone is running a 1080ti to push the same 60 fps on a 60 fps monitor that you get from a 960

 

others will understand the stupidity in that but then declare you must buy acore i7000,  ultrawide 8k 3 bazillion hz monitor and a 1080 ti quad sli now (yeah well quad sli was possible) or you can not possibly enjoy gaming and you are a loser. in the end mate its about your wallet and your hardware. what makes you happy?

Did you watch this video? It clearly shows 8 threads running 60%+ in GTA5. An i5 just doesn't cut the mustard anymore with at least one game he wants to play. a 2600k can be had for less than $150 USD. Sandy Bridge is better than you give it credit for. Intel has been lazy in increases between generations. More and More games are being optimized for more cores\threads and it will only get more prevalent with the release of Ryzen.

[nobiggieBIG]

4 hours ago, Conan1600 said:

so here is the problem with most advice. they never take into account all the little things. what type of monitor do you game on? are you planning an upgrade. are you disappointed in your current pc because you do not get enough fps? does it lag, does it stutter? is browsing slow? so if you are happy gaming on the monitor you have now, or are planning to upgrade to a 1080 from 900p or 720p then your gpu while dated will do the job on most games but will require tweaking of settings at 1080p. your cpu on the other hand is a little slow.

 

despite what people say any i5 past ivy bridge will do 60 fps with a decent gpu on any game at 1080. i do not think you should go back to sandy bridge at this point though. it is all about your equipment use case. most here will not be satisfied until everyone is running a 1080ti to push the same 60 fps on a 60 fps monitor that you get from a 960

 

others will understand the stupidity in that but then declare you must buy acore i7000,  ultrawide 8k 3 bazillion hz monitor and a 1080 ti quad sli now (yeah well quad sli was possible) or you can not possibly enjoy gaming and you are a loser. in the end mate its about your wallet and your hardware. what makes you happy?

I play 900p (upgrading to 1080 ultrawide). Literally need to push 60 fps in most games today for it to be worth my while, with that being said ive looked into the old i7 and the i5-6600k and the 2600 smashes it, and then with a moderate oc its fine. I only need future proofing for 2 years, because at that point ill be doing other things)

[Nena Trinity]

Have you tried to disable turbo on your current CPU and set its clock speed to the rated turbo or higher?

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Have you tried to disable turbo on your current CPU and set its clock speed to the rated turbo or higher?

It peaks at 3.7 ghz, but it still bottlenecks because of its outdated chipset and rubbish IPC

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

It peaks at 3.7 ghz, but it still bottlenecks because of its outdated chipset and rubbish IPC

Depends on the game? Which game are you trying to play? Also I advice you to try what I told you it makes it so much better! ((using a 880K at 4.3GHz with GTX 960))

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Depends on the game? Which game are you trying to play? Also I advice you to try what I told you it makes it so much better! ((using a 880K at 4.3GHz with GTX 960))

I want to unlock a few more frames out of GTA 5 (60 fps) and H1Z1 (Capped 60 fps) at medium 900p. I looked into just getting a x4 860k and overclocking it but the difference isnt negligible 

[Nena Trinity]

4 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

I want to unlock a few more frames out of GTA 5 (60 fps) and H1Z1 (Capped 60 fps) at medium 900p

GTA V is tricky, you need to reduce all settings in advanced to minimum and reduce shadows, shaders and grass as much as you can!

 

I always suggest that you set shadows to lowest especially in a competitive game such as H1Z1! ((even off if it is still possible I am sure it was a option before but maybe not now...))

 

Edit: Do not forget to enable XMP on your RAM!

Try copying the settings from this video and travel the same route!

[nobiggieBIG]

2 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

GTA V is tricky, you need to reduce all settings in advanced to minimum and reduce shadows, shaders and grass as much as you can!

 

I always suggest that you set shadows to lowest especially in a competitive game such as H1Z1! ((even off if it is still possible I am sure it was a option before but maybe not now...))

 

Edit: Do not forget to enable XMP on your RAM!

 

yeah, well for the moment most games above 30 fps is fine, but their is visual slowdowns if it ever drops in mass gun fights etc.

[Nena Trinity]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, well for the moment most games above 30 fps is fine, but their is visual slowdowns if it ever drops in mass gun fights etc.

Well I do not have many drops in GTA V but H1Z1 is a hard cookie even for my friends with i7s... o3o

[nobiggieBIG]

21 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Well I do not have many drops in GTA V but H1Z1 is a hard cookie even for my friends with i7s... o3o

such a poorly optimised game.

[Nena Trinity]

1 hour ago, nobiggieBIG said:

such a poorly optimised game.

Indeed it is but hey it could been Battlegrounds! ((tough Battlegrounds will probably be better after its out of early access I hope...)

[nobiggieBIG]

11 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Indeed it is but hey it could been Battlegrounds! ((tough Battlegrounds will probably be better after its out of early access I hope...)

h1 is early access thoygh?

 

[Conan1600]

3 hours ago, nobiggieBIG said:

I play 900p (upgrading to 1080 ultrawide). Literally need to push 60 fps in most games today for it to be worth my while, with that being said ive looked into the old i7 and the i5-6600k and the 2600 smashes it, and then with a moderate oc its fine. I only need future proofing for 2 years, because at that point ill be doing other things)

since you are buying a 1080p ultrawide pushing more pixels than a standard 16:9 AR i have not personally tested the combos you have in mind with an ultrawide so am in slightly unfamiliar territory. i personally would lean towards the cpu upgrade still as your a8 apu will hold back any modern gpu by quite a margin. as to the two choices of cpu you have listed the 6600k is more than enough to push high frames for a 1080p ultrawide and will out perform a sandy bridge i7 for your use as well as be a good cpu for any GPU currently sold. you may need to adjust settings on games from medium to low mixture in order to achieve 60 fps in modern games with your 770 which i assume is the 2gb version.

[Conan1600]

9 hours ago, asand1 said:

Did you watch this video? It clearly shows 8 threads running 60%+ in GTA5. An i5 just doesn't cut the mustard anymore with at least one game he wants to play. a 2600k can be had for less than $150 USD. Sandy Bridge is better than you give it credit for. Intel has been lazy in increases between generations. More and More games are being optimized for more cores\threads and it will only get more prevalent with the release of Ryzen.

this statement only shows you do not understand cpu load  the video you are showing clearly shows the the apu can not max or even come close to maxing the 960 gpu. at 6:23 of the video while driving through town clearly shows this with the cpu loads at 100% and the gpu load stuck at 67c at 40% load, in fact from skipping through i find no place in said video where the card is over 40%. the gtx960 and the gtx770 are on par and equal in almost every game in performance. as for intel the jump from sandy to ivy was the largest improvement we had between gens. at any rate the gaming performance between a 6600k and a 2600 are very large and in favor of the 6600k at all times in gaming, and nearly outperforming in threaded tasks as well simply because of years of gains. 

 

TLDR. the athlon x4 880k  (which isnt even the same cpu as the op, and is faster than the ops chip by a lot) is holding back the gtx 960 gpu at 40%. the gtx 770 and gtx 960 are equal in performance

[nobiggieBIG]

32 minutes ago, Conan1600 said:

since you are buying a 1080p ultrawide pushing more pixels than a standard 16:9 AR i have not personally tested the combos you have in mind with an ultrawide so am in slightly unfamiliar territory. i personally would lean towards the cpu upgrade still as your a8 apu will hold back any modern gpu by quite a margin. as to the two choices of cpu you have listed the 6600k is more than enough to push high frames for a 1080p ultrawide and will out perform a sandy bridge i7 for your use as well as be a good cpu for any GPU currently sold. you may need to adjust settings on games from medium to low mixture in order to achieve 60 fps in modern games with your 770 which i assume is the 2gb version.

yeah, im planning on upgrading that though