CPU Upgrade?

[nobiggieBIG]

I feel as if i post this alot, but i struggle so much about choosing whats going to run my pc for 2 years at least so.

 

I need a CPU upgrade, my specs are as follows

 

AMD A8-7600@3.1ghz

Gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2

8GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3

CX430 (Ill upgrade this)

Bitfenix Neos

GTX 760 2GB

 

This current rig is presenting a huge bottleneck in most games.

 

Do i go with;

i5-6600k + z170 board (around £300-350)

i7-2600k + z77 board (around £250)

 

Im not fussed on buying used, but i finally want to stop (at least for a while) of using AMD cpus.

 

Id also need recommendations on motherboard (M-ATX, 32GB Max)

 

-No Biggie

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

I feel as if i post this alot, but i struggle so much about choosing whats going to run my pc for 2 years at least so.

 

I need a CPU upgrade, my specs are as follows

 

AMD A8-7600@3.1ghz

Gigabyte F2A68HM-HD2

8GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3

CX430 (Ill upgrade this)

Bitfenix Neos

GTX 760 2GB

 

This current rig is presenting a huge bottleneck in most games.

 

Do i go with;

i5-6600k + z170 board (around £300-350)

i7-2600k + z77 board (around £250)

 

Im not fussed on buying used, but i finally want to stop (at least for a while) of using AMD cpus.

 

Id also need recommendations on motherboard (M-ATX, 32GB Max)

 

-No Biggie

You might want to wait till Ryzen 5. 11 more days *waits in despair*

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, JDE said:

You might want to wait till Ryzen 5. 11 more days *waits in despair*

Yes, but like ive said im sick to death of problems with AMD cpus, i just want something that works. That being said it looks good, but as of current there is no difference in price to intel (if you factor in motherboards, ryzen ram and the CPU

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

Yes, but like ive said im sick to death of problems with AMD cpus, i just want something that works. That being said it looks good, but as of current there is no difference in price to intel (if you factor in motherboards, ryzen ram and the CPU

Ryzen 5 competes with i5 and starts at $169 (correct me if I am wrong)

[nobiggieBIG]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

Ryzen 5 competes with i5 and starts at $169 (correct me if I am wrong)

Yes, your right, ever since i had my first pc ive wanted intel, but because its a new platform i cant trust it if you understand? with all the R7 problems idk.

 

Old Specs:

Spoiler

FX4350

M9A78M-LE (?)

10GB Ram

HD 7750 1GB

 

 

[Damascus]

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wm9ZPs
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£201.54 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£23.97 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-Gaming K3-EU ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£89.94 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£60.17 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £375.62

 

Very similar in price, i7 for 25 Euro more

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K2fgNN

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.89 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($52.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $409.75

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

Yes, your right, ever since i had my first pc ive wanted intel, but because its a new platform i cant trust it if you understand? with all the R7 problems idk.

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FX4350

M9A78M-LE (?)

10GB Ram

HD 7750 1GB

 

 

i5 with Z170 than.

 

But just saying, Ryzen 7 performance has gotten a lot better since launch because of optimizations.

[nobiggieBIG]

9 hours ago, Damascus said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wm9ZPs
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£201.54 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£23.97 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-Gaming K3-EU ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£89.94 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£60.17 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £375.62

 

\/     20 euro cheaper!  get an i7 instead.   \/

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcPxVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.89 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $356.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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so the i5 is cheaper? i already have the cooler - corsair h55.

9 hours ago, JDE said:

i5 with Z170 than.

 

But just saying, Ryzen 7 performance has gotten a lot better since launch because of optimizations.

doesnt it need like hyper speed ram for the same performance as i7-7700k (r71800x)

[Damascus]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

so the i5 is cheaper? i already have the cooler - corsair h55.

Yeah, my bad I forgot RAM on the i7.  I still suggest an i7 as games are using more and more threads and i5's may soon be bottom of the totem pole and struggle.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

doesnt it need like hyper speed ram for the same performance as i7-7700k (r71800x)

1800x competes with 6900k

[nobiggieBIG]

9 hours ago, Damascus said:

Yeah, my bad I forgot RAM on the i7.  I still suggest an i7 as games are using more and more threads and i5's may soon be bottom of the totem pole and struggle.

Yeah, well with my GTX 760 (still fucking capable i tell you) surely a i5 would suffice? At the moment in GTA 5 i get around 40 fps on ultra and 40 fps on low, this is the same in CSGO, dirty bomb, GTA5, H1Z1. So ive narrowed it down to a bottleneck in the CPU. I just want 60 fps @ 900p in most games

9 hours ago, JDE said:

1800x competes with 6900k

yeah, but thats for video editing, and i dont content create, i play games and browse ltt forums.

[Damascus]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

Yeah, well with my GTX 760 (still fucking capable i tell you) surely a i5 would suffice? At the moment in GTA 5 i get around 40 fps on ultra and 40 fps on low, this is the same in CSGO, dirty bomb, GTA5, H1Z1. So ive narrowed it down to a bottleneck in the CPU. I just want 60 fps @ 900p in most games

Ok, in that case you can get an i5 no biggie.  I just saw 2 years future proof and was like "games are going to be using way more than 4 c/t"

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, but thats for video editing, and i dont content create, i play games and browse ltt forums.

Ok then 7700 or 6600K for you!

[nobiggieBIG]

8 hours ago, Damascus said:

Ok, in that case you can get an i5 no biggie.  I just saw 2 years future proof and was like "games are going to be using way more than 4 c/t"

yeah, i agree, but this is why i like pc gaming, if you cant run it, just fucking lower the settings.

And in that case surely the amd FX 8350 wouldnt be such a shit cpu in the future?

8 hours ago, JDE said:

Ok then 7700 or 6600K for you!

ill wait though for R5 performance tests.

[Damascus]

8 hours ago, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, i agree, but this is why i like pc gaming, if you cant run it, just fucking lower the settings.

Maybe this is an option?  Bump it up to a 480 and it'll perform waay better than your current planned  upgrade for  less

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WXzBxY

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($52.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $324.84

8 hours ago, nobiggieBIG said:

And in that case surely the amd FX 8350 wouldnt be such a shit cpu in the future?

Still crap because of its super low IPC

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Damascus said:

Maybe this is an option?  Bump it up to a 480 and it'll perform waay better than your current planned  upgrade for  less

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WXzBxY

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($52.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $324.84

yeah, but i already have the GPU and i got it for £60 within the last 1 month, it was a spicy deal so i took it.

[Damascus]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, but i already have the GPU and i got it for £60 within the last 1 month, it was a spicy deal so i took it.

Getting a better GPU and what is essentially an  i3 will still give you better returns on your money.  You can probably sell the GPU and CPU/MOBO/RAM  to finance the new GPU as well

[nobiggieBIG]

Just now, Damascus said:

Getting a better GPU and what is essentially an  i3 will still give you better returns on your money.  You can probably sell the GPU and CPU/MOBO/RAM  to finance the new GPU as well

yeah, ill look into it, but if i get a RX 480 it will be the last thing ill buy, an still probably just get a i5/i7

[Damascus]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

yeah, ill look into it, but if i get a RX 480 it will be the last thing ill buy, an still probably just get a i5/i7

Gotcha, plz don't fall for Sunk Cost Fallacy on that GPU lol

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Gotcha, plz don't fall for Sunk Cost Fallacy on that GPU lol

Im not sure on what that is, but i already have it, and for the moment at least i see no need in upgrading (60fps @ 900p) if your talking about GTX 760

[Damascus]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

Im not sure on what that is, but i already have it, and for the moment at least i see no need in upgrading (60fps @ 900p) if your talking about GTX 760

google sums it up nicely, not criticizing the GPU  (my bro has a 770, I have 1050 ti) but if you are thinking of upgrading with a budget of $350 you'll get so much more back with a more recent GPU and weaker CPU.

 

The Sunk Cost Fallacy. The Misconception: You make rational decisions based on the future value of objects, investments and experiences. The Truth: Your decisions are tainted by the emotional investments you accumulate, and the more you invest in something the harder it becomes to abandon it.Mar 25, 2011

 

[nobiggieBIG]

@Damascus but id rather get a better CPU and then for christmas ask for a rx480/vega, its only gonna be 5 months from when i get a CPU

[GDRRiley]

27 minutes ago, nobiggieBIG said:

doesnt it need like hyper speed ram for the same performance as i7-7700k (r71800x)

it doesn't, 3000mgz with tight timings is great but it will be fine with 2666 with tight timings. 

[nobiggieBIG]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

it doesn't, 3000mgz with tight timings is great but it will be fine with 2666 with tight timings. 

totally useless at over clocking ram am i.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, nobiggieBIG said:

totally useless at over clocking ram am i.

just get it from the factory like that.