MSI Laptop generation

[JustARandomDude]

_{^{I have been reseacrhing for a long time and it seems i am still not decided, have these options, since i live on an island i have a very limited variety to choose from.}}

_{^{(all can be found: http://www.scanmalta.com/scanshop/gaming/laptops.html)}}

_{^{I am not buying any laptops online since i'd have to deal with a lot of shipping cost and i will not be able to pay monthly.}}

 

_{^{MSI GE72 7RE Apache Pro 17.3"  €1,530.00}}

• _{^{Intel Core i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz}}
• _{^{16GB DDR4 2133MHz}}
• _{^{1TB HDD + 128GB SSD}}
• _{^{4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti}}

_{^{Weaker 1050ti card but a little bit better cpu.}}

 

_{^{MSI GE62VR Apache Pro 15.6"  €1,611.00}}

• _{^{Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.8 GHz}}
• _{^{8GB DDR4 2400MHz}}
• _{^{1TB HDD +128GB SSD}}
• _{^{3GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060}}

_{^{Gtx 1060 but with 3gb vram. 8gb ram might not be so future proof.}} 

 

_{^{Any suggestions ?}}

 

 

 

[Damascus]

6 minutes ago, JustARandomDude said:

Asus ROG Strix GL702VM 17.3"  €1,665.00

• Intel Core i7-6700HQ 2.6 GHz
• 16GB DDR4 2133MHz
• 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
• 6 GB Nvidia GTX1060

Best specs overall but it has problem with cooling. Alot of people complain it overheats which make it throttle and reduces it's life span.

 

Any suggestions ?

Do you feel comfortable re-pasting and undervolting?  That solves most laptop thermal issues and you lose no performance

 

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

Do you feel comfortable re-pasting and undervolting?  That solves most laptop thermal issues and you lose no performance

 

I don't mind undervolting but repasting is a little too much for me considering i never fiddle around with laptops and such

[Damascus]

Just now, JustARandomDude said:

I don't mind undervolting but repasting is a little too much for me considering i never fiddle around with laptops and such

In that case I would still consider strongly the GL702VM.  It will be outperforming the other two for a long time if you dust regularly and undervolt.  BTW, skylake undervolts really, really low, 150mV vs kaby lakes 100mV

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

In that case I would still consider strongly the GL702VM.  It will be outperforming the other two for a long time if you dust regularly and undervolt.  BTW, skylake undervolts really, really low, 150mV vs kaby lakes 100mV

i'm not so sure though since that was the least i was considering. Although it does have better specs it doesn't have some features of the msi like Cooler boost, rgb backlit keyboards and the shift modes. I am leaning towards the msi since my brother has an msi ge62 2qf with a 970m 3gb , and it performs wonderfully. 

[Damascus]

3 minutes ago, JustARandomDude said:

have some features of the msi like Cooler boost, rgb backlit keyboards and the shift modes

Those are all rather gimmicky.  

What is cooler boost?

I do love me some RGB and ASUS needs to get on board with that.

Also, every brand has their own version of shift mode.

 

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

Those are all rather gimmicky.  

What is cooler boost?

I do love me some RGB and ASUS needs to get on board with that.

Also, every brand has their own version of shift mode.

 

Cooler boost basically boosts both the fans up to their max with just a press of a button. I don't have any experience with asus strix laptops, and seeing posts like this https://rog.asus.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-88828.html discourage me, even considering i live in a hot country.

 

If i were to go for an msi
what would you recommend ?

A 1050ti with i7 7700HQ

or

A 1060 3gb with i7 6700HQ ?

[Damascus]

What do you want to do with it?

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

What do you want to do with it?

i mostly surf the web and game, i don't play alot of demanding titles though
i play bf4, cs go, overwatch, rocket league, league of legends. 

 

In the future i might need it to hand in assignemnts but i am not required to take it to school.

[Damascus]

43 minutes ago, JustARandomDude said:

 

MSI GE72 7RE Apache Pro 17.3"  €1,530.00

Notorious sound issues, otherwise a good laptop

 

MSI GE62VR Apache Pro 15.6"  €1,611.00

_{Generally overpriced and gets 3-3.5 star reviews}

 

Asus ROG Strix GL702VM 17.3"  €1,665.00

Can have heat issues but always get 4 stars and up

Don't get the GE62VR, it seems to get a lot of poor reviews.  Also, the other 2 options are so  much better value propositions I wouldn't take it.

 

I strongly recommend the Asus, for an extra 135 It'll save you from needing to upgrade for 1-2 years longer than the 1050 ti.

1 minute ago, JustARandomDude said:

i play bf4, cs go, overwatch, rocket league, league of legends. 

If thats all you plan on playing for some time go with the 1050 ti.  HOWEVER, if you plan on playing BF1 or any AAA games in future you'll want the 1060

[Jskn]

What about a msi ghost pro

[Damascus]

Just now, Jskn said:

What about a msi ghost pro

Look at his options, can't really buy online

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

Don't get the GE62VR, it seems to get a lot of poor reviews.  Also, the other 2 options are so  much better value propositions I wouldn't take it.

 

I strongly recommend the Asus, for an extra 135 It'll save you from needing to upgrade for 1-2 years longer than the 1050 ti.

If thats all you plan on playing for some time go with the 1050 ti.  HOWEVER, if you plan on playing BF1 or any AAA games in future you'll want the 1060

hmm, okay. Well i'll have to think about it. Thanks for your tips

 

[Damascus]

Just now, JustARandomDude said:

hmm, okay. Well i'll have to think about it. Thanks for your tips

 

No problem, while I recommend the ASUS that 1050 ti will serve your needs admirably.  It just burns me to see how overpriced it is compared to the 1060 6gb

[Damascus]

Also, what will you be paying in interest?

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

Also, what will you be paying in interest?

what do you mean ?

 

 

[Damascus]

Just now, JustARandomDude said:

what do you mean ?

 

 

If you pay monthly you usually need to pay a high interest

[Pendragon]

23 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Also, what will you be paying in interest?

@JustARandomDude if you need to pay for the laptop monthly I would advise you skip buying it all together. get something WAY cheaper like a i5 + 1050ti dell 7567 and live with that. It's just better financial management. The money you save can be put to far better use in investments, stocks or etfs. 

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Pendragon said:

@JustARandomDude if you need to pay for the laptop monthly I would advise you skip buying it all together. get something WAY cheaper like a i5 + 1050ti dell 7567 and live with that. It's just better financial management. The money you save can be put to far better use in investments, stocks or etfs. 

well considering i'm just a student i don't have a lot of things to aim for and a laptop is just better since i can give my old one to my dad and he will pay most of my monthly installments XP I still have to stay in the 1400-1600 range though

[Pendragon]

Just now, JustARandomDude said:

well considering i'm just a student i don't have a lot of things to aim for and a laptop is just better since i can give my old one to my dad and he will pay most of my monthly installments XP I still have to stay in the 1400-1600 range though

 

How much EXTRA are you paying because of the installments? And like i said, you should probably pick up the Dell 7567 instead anyways. 

[JustARandomDude]

1 hour ago, Pendragon said:

How much EXTRA are you paying because of the installments? And like i said, you should probably pick up the Dell 7567 instead anyways. 

as i stated in the original post, i have a very limited selection to choose from and unfortunately that's not one of them