Need some tips on first build

[Ruiii]

Building my first gaming rig, planning to spend $1000 CAD - $1500 CAD ( no peripherals or monitors)

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xdsj

Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xdsj/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xdsj/benchmarks/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($343.82 @ Amazon Canada) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($72.78 @ Newegg Canada) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($183.12 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($84.37 @ Newegg Canada) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.52 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($377.62 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.84 @ Amazon Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($61.58 @ Canada Computers) 

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($22.38 @ Canada Computers) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)  ($100.56 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $1438.59

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 22:29 EST-0500)

 

 

-  should i change anything? planning on changing stock fans in the future and might do some light editing with this rig

 

[AlwaysFSX]

If you're gaming swap the processor to a 4670k and get something other than the H60, it's terrible. Might leave you with enough left to get an R9 290 (non-reference cooler preferably).

[TheSLSAMG]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($237.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($183.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory:  GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($71.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card:  Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ NCIX)
Case:  NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($107.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply:  Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive:  Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)  ($89.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1458.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 22:39 EST-0500)

 

This will be much better for gaming.

[Bonsai99]

Would either get a 4770k or dump the Z87 motherboard.

Would also go with a Hyper 212 Evo over the H60. Cheaper, Equivalent performance, No risk of leaking, and No risk of pump dying.

[AlwaysFSX]

Would either get a 4770k or dump the Z87 motherboard.

Would also go with a Hyper 212 Evo over the H60. Cheaper, Equivalent performance, No risk of leaking, and No risk of pump dying.

4770k is pretty pointless for a gaming build?

[Bonsai99]

4770k is pretty pointless for a gaming build?

Sorry missed the light in the editing part.

[Wtalk2]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($237.99 @ NCIX) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.79 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard:  MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($188.50 @ Vuugo) 

Memory:  Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($99.79 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($61.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  ($539.50 @ Vuugo) 

Case:  Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 

Power Supply:  Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($99.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer  ($17.00 @ Vuugo) 

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit)  ($89.79 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $1554.19

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-11 22:43 EST-0500)

[Ps_domingo]

Here are my opinions and suggestions. 

1) Why not get a unlocked processor? or go i5 then OC the hell out of it. (If you are just gaming and light editing an i7 is pretty much useless) 

2) Swap out the H60 and get a decent Tower Cooler. The H60 is kinda sucky. Get a Noctua NH-D14 or C14.

3) Scrap the Blue drive. Get a black drive (blues are prone to bad sectors that lead to corrupt data)

4) Wait for the 290 with non reference cooler.

[SuperOwnJK]

I agree with the downgrade to the i5. You don't really need an i7 unless you're doing professional work. I'd also say that an SSD is a must have for any new build. The computer wouldn't seem much faster, response, or 'worth it' than an existing computer you might have.

[brob]

BF4 benefits more from i7 than previous generations of games. Likely this trend will continue. On the other hand if an SSD isn't included, use the difference between an i5 and i7 to pay for it.

[WoodenMarker]

Eww, red ram and a blue mobo.

 

Edits: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/219iY

[AlwaysFSX]

Sorry missed the light in the editing part.

Even then, a 4770k wouldn't benefit much even for light editing.

[Ps_domingo]

BF4 benefits more from i7 than previous generations of games. Likely this trend will continue. On the other hand if an SSD isn't included, use the difference between an i5 and i7 to pay for it.

That may be true but if you look at the CPU utilization vs FPS produced. It's still minimal, definitely not enough to justify the cost.

Unless the difference between an i5 and i7 is 15++ frames(in ultra) I wouldn't bother.

[brob]

That may be true but if you look at the CPU utilization vs FPS produced. It's still minimal, definitely not enough to justify the cost.

Unless the difference between an i5 and i7 is 15++ frames(in ultra) I wouldn't bother.

 

It's only one set of benchmarks of one game but the BF4 cpu benchmark graph here shows i5-4670K at 72/95 and i7-4770K at 92/115.

 

The point I was trying to make was that the conventional wisdom that i7 does not contribute enough to performance to justify the added cost is changing. Real world performance is determined in large part by the gpu solution in the system.  As gpu become even more powerful the difference between i5 and i7 will continue to widen.

[Ps_domingo]

It's only one set of benchmarks of one game but the BF4 cpu benchmark graph here shows i5-4670K at 72/95 and i7-4770K at 92/115.

 

The point I was trying to make was that the conventional wisdom that i7 does not contribute enough to performance to justify the added cost is changing. Real world performance is determined in large part by the gpu solution in the system.  As gpu become even more powerful the difference between i5 and i7 will continue to widen.

So what you are saying is it doesnt' justify the cost right? =))) I kinda just proved my point. 

[brob]

So what you are saying is it doesnt' justify the cost right? =))) I kinda just proved my point. 

Don't know how you got that out of my post. You suggested that a delta of at least 15 fps was needed before an i7 would become "worth it". I provided a link to a benchmark that showed a delta of 20 fps.

 

But it's a pointless discussion. The most appropriate cpu depends on the budget.

 

I simply wanted to point out that new games are bringing about a change. If one is investing in a gaming rig that is to last for some time then I believe an i7 is a better investment than an i5 (budget permitting). This is because as more demanding games emerge one is more likely and can more easily improve the gpu solution.

[WoodenMarker]

It's only one set of benchmarks of one game but the BF4 cpu benchmark graph here shows i5-4670K at 72/95 and i7-4770K at 92/115.

The point I was trying to make was that the conventional wisdom that i7 does not contribute enough to performance to justify the added cost is changing. Real world performance is determined in large part by the gpu solution in the system.  As gpu become even more powerful the difference between i5 and i7 will continue to widen.

Don't forget it's not just hyperthreading. The i7 has more cache than the i5.