Gaming Laptop Options

[monjanger]

I have narrowed down my laptop choices to about two different options.

 

The first being the Razer Blade 2017 (14 Inch) 

 

- 1080P Matte Display (IPS)

- i7-7700HQ, 1060 6GB, 16GB Ram, 512 PCIE M.2

- I've heard conflicting reports of throttling, and build quality - any input on this?

 

The second being the Sager NP8157

 

- 15.6 Inch, 144HZ TN panel or 15.6 inch, 15.6 Inch, 60HZ IPS panel? (I will be solely gaming, so I'm guessing IPS panel, however it is a laptop, and viewing angles might be a problem?)

- i7-7700HQ, 1070 8GB, 16GB Ram, 500GB 850 EVO M.2, 1TB HDD

- It's pretty big, but not a problem, have heard some issues with throttling as well? 

 

 

[Shiv78]

Blade throttles and if you don't want it to throttle your ears will die and it will STILL throttle anyway.

On a laptop viewing angles are arguably less of an issue as you are usually right in front of it, so 120Hz to maximize that 1070.

[Maxinfamily]

Yep, I would never pick a TN laptop for gaming, nor even for studying/"casual" use. Its very annoying to use your laptop injust a very exact angle otherwise you dont see a shit.

[monjanger]

Just now, Shiv78 said:

Blade throttles and if you don't want it to throttle your ears will die and it will STILL throttle anyway.

On a laptop viewing angles are arguably less of an issue as you are usually right in front of it, so 120Hz to maximize that 1070.

Great info man. Definitely going for the sager. Would I notice a difference between the i7-7700HQ and i7-7820HK? Is it worth the upgrade? 

[Shiv78]

3 minutes ago, monjanger said:

Great info man. Definitely going for the sager. Would I notice a difference between the i7-7700HQ and i7-7820HK? Is it worth the upgrade? 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7820HK/m211019vsm224965

Probably not, 8% difference BUT the 7820HK is overclockable so that's a consideration.

 

4 minutes ago, Maxinfamily said:

Yep, I would never pick a TN laptop for gaming, nor even for studying/"casual" use. Its very annoying to use your laptop injust a very exact angle otherwise you dont see a shit.

Only really shitty TN panels have viewing angles that bad. Mostly the side angle is much worse than the vertical, but IDK about the panel in the Sager and if it's good or not...

[Maxinfamily]

16 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

Only really shitty TN panels have viewing angles that bad. Mostly the side angle is much worse than the vertical, but IDK about the panel in the Sager and if it's good or not...

Im talking out of experience. I know that there are tons of different TN panels, but In my opinion, based on my experience, is not worth to save some money into a TN panel.

 

You (OP, @monjanger) can always look for reviews of other people who bought that laptop and check if they bother about the panel. Thats what you always have to do anyways, look for reviews.

[monjanger]

35 minutes ago, Maxinfamily said:

Im talking out of experience. I know that there are tons of different TN panels, but In my opinion, based on my experience, is not worth to save some money into a TN panel.

 

You (OP, @monjanger) can always look for reviews of other people who bought that laptop and check if they bother about the panel. Thats what you always have to do anyways, look for reviews.

Well, I think I would just opt for a 1060 and IPS panel then, as a 1070 would be overkill. Am for sure going to research the panel. 

 

52 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7820HK/m211019vsm224965

Probably not, 8% difference BUT the 7820HK is overclockable so that's a consideration.

 

Only really shitty TN panels have viewing angles that bad. Mostly the side angle is much worse than the vertical, but IDK about the panel in the Sager and if it's good or not...

Thanks for the info man. 

[Emberstone]

13 minutes ago, Maxinfamily said:

Im talking out of experience. I know that there are tons of different TN panels, but In my opinion, based on my experience, is not worth to save some money into a TN panel.

 

You (OP, @monjanger) can always look for reviews of other people who bought that laptop and check if they bother about the panel. Thats what you always have to do anyways, look for reviews.

There are five devices in my room right now with TN panels, and not one of them are that bad. All of them only discolor when you're sitting way off-center.

 

The OP should look up reviews for that particular laptop and see what he can learn about the panel like you said. Not all TN panels suck.

[monjanger]

1 hour ago, Emberstone said:

There are five devices in my room right now with TN panels, and not one of them are that bad. All of them only discolor when you're sitting way off-center.

 

The OP should look up reviews for that particular laptop and see what he can learn about the panel like you said. Not all TN panels suck.

I just read up on multiple reviews, all of which said the viewing angles were pretty good, and that if calibrated, the colors were good. 

 

Should I order the laptop of sagers website, or Xiotic PC? 

[Shiv78]

8 minutes ago, monjanger said:

Should I order the laptop of sagers website, or Xiotic PC? 

Sager's ,Xotic might charge more

[Pendragon]

Okay wait. There are varying levels of TN panels. In this case, the TN panel is a premium over the IPS panel because it's 120hz and it's quite good for a TN panel. Ofc you don't have the viewing angles but it's not bad. The one in the sager is quite good and specs and testing on it is readily available. 

[Pendragon]

16 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

Sager's ,Xotic might charge more

No, get it from LPC or HID. the 50-100 dollar premium for the prema mod and hassle free customer service is worth it. 

[monjanger]

40 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

No, get it from LPC or HID. the 50-100 dollar premium for the prema mod and hassle free customer service is worth it. 

LPC's comes out to $2282, XoticPC comes to $2332, Sager comes to $2367. 

 

Build: (Any edits?)

 

- 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor ( 6MB Smart Cache, 2.80GHz)
- 15.6" Full HD, 120Hz 5ms Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) [+$75.00]
- Screen Calibration [+$35.00]
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU [+$35.00]
- Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 8GB
- 512GB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD  Instant $50 Off Savings! ( was $310 ) [+$260.00]
- 1TB 7200rpm SATA3 Hard Drive
- Killer™ Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [+$15.00]

[Maxinfamily]

2 minutes ago, monjanger said:

LPC's comes out to $2282, XoticPC comes to $2332, Sager comes to $2367. 

 

Build: (Any edits?)

 

- 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor ( 6MB Smart Cache, 2.80GHz)
- 15.6" Full HD, 120Hz 5ms Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) [+$75.00]
- Screen Calibration [+$35.00]
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU [+$35.00]
- Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 8GB
- 512GB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD  Instant $50 Off Savings! ( was $310 ) [+$260.00]
- 1TB 7200rpm SATA3 Hard Drive
- Killer™ Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [+$15.00]

This is so badass... As long as you can spend that much money, go for It. It looks great to me.

[Pendragon]

2 hours ago, monjanger said:

- 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor ( 6MB Smart Cache, 2.80GHz)
- 15.6" Full HD, 120Hz 5ms Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) [+$75.00]
- Screen Calibration [+$35.00]
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU [+$35.00]
- Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 8GB
- 512GB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD  Instant $50 Off Savings! ( was $310 ) [+$260.00]
- 1TB 7200rpm SATA3 Hard Drive
- Killer™ Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [+$15.00]

 

Yes. Firstly which retailer? Choose HID if you want the best temps. IC Diamond is okay...not great.

 

Screen Calibration? Sure? If you really want it

Windows 10? You can get it without Win10 from HID so it saves a ton of money. HID offers the 30 bucks OEM key option.

Upgrade the ram to something faster. Either Kingston CL14 2400mhz or CL16 3000/3200mhz

960 Pro essentially useless. You will never notice the difference.

Killer is absolute garbage. Use Intel 8265. 

[Shiv78]

18 hours ago, Pendragon said:

Yes. Firstly which retailer? Choose HID if you want the best temps. IC Diamond is okay...not great.

 

Screen Calibration? Sure? If you really want it

Windows 10? You can get it without Win10 from HID so it saves a ton of money. HID offers the 30 bucks OEM key option.

Upgrade the ram to something faster. Either Kingston CL14 2400mhz or CL16 3000/3200mhz

960 Pro essentially useless. You will never notice the difference.

Killer is absolute garbage. Use Intel 8265. 

so true all of these