fx9590 overheating

[Cptdavepilm]

system spec as follows:

 

Antec GX1200 gaming case,

Asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0

Asus strix R9 390 OC DC3 8GB

AMD 9590FX

Corsair 850 Gold+ PSU

8GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR RAM.

 

Here is my problem.

I originally had my 9590 aio cooled with the Corsair H80 push pull.

Now my cpu Temps were always high with that cooler and overheating.

I have upgraded to a 240mm AIO push (brand is called Uphere).

that cooled my cpu ok ish, lowered the temps between 5-10c, but now even that cooler doesnt seem enough to cool this bbq of a cpu.

I have had to underclock and under volt it to be able to type this and temps are still stupid high, 54c.

i upgraded the fans to some corsair fans same as the H80 fans and still no difference.

I have hit a wall as to what i can do to cool this thing, my funds have ran dry also so i cant upgrade cooler again.

hell i had to upgrade my case so the cooler will fit lol.

Any help from anyone would be appreciated, im desperate. (im sure i have lost hair because of this).

 

P.S.  the AIO cooler i have is this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01I5K0E8O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Thank you in advance.

David

[Guest]

Did you remember to pull the plastic sticker off the cold plate?

[Cptdavepilm]

Just now, HydraGaming said:

Did you remember to pull the plastic sticker off the cold plate?

of course i did lol

[Pcinacan]

Hey even Linus forgot. 

[Pcinacan]

Maybe the thermal paste sucks or it some how is not fully pressed to the cpu

[Cptdavepilm]

i have the Arctic MX-4 but ive tried all different kinds. it is deffo seated right.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

54C under load is fine. However, you ahd to underclock for that, so of course it's not ideal. How much could you undervolt while keeping stock clocks? The FX-9xxx default to more than 1.5v, so they are very hard to keep cool in stress tests and so on, even with 240mm AIOs. However, they may admit lower voltages, although the 9590 probably not much since it's 4.7GHz stock - a rather high overclock.

Check the LLC options of your Sabertooth as well: high LLC will help you eliminate any fluctuations in vcore and give you more control, but it will also make your temps higher.

 

For reference (in a worse OC board than the Sabertooth), I undervolted a 9370 to 1.385v, and even managed to OC it to 4510 at that voltage (+5MHz stock multipliers). My vcore an drop to ~1.34v in stress test (no LLC here), so with your board you may get it stable at something close to 1.35v. If you manage to pull that out, you will probably be fine with the AIO and just giving up 200MHz. But you didn't get a 9590 to run at 4.5, so it's worth trying voltage settings until you can thermally manage a stable 4.7  

[Cptdavepilm]

22 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

54C under load is fine. However, you ahd to underclock for that, so of course it's not ideal. How much could you undervolt while keeping stock clocks? The FX-9xxx default to more than 1.5v, so they are very hard to keep cool in stress tests and so on, even with 240mm AIOs. However, they may admit lower voltages, although the 9590 probably not much since it's 4.7GHz stock - a rather high overclock.

Check the LLC options of your Sabertooth as well: high LLC will help you eliminate any fluctuations in vcore and give you more control, but it will also make your temps higher.

 

For reference (in a worse OC board than the Sabertooth), I undervolted a 9370 to 1.385v, and even managed to OC it to 4510 at that voltage (+5MHz stock multipliers). My vcore an drop to ~1.34v in stress test (no LLC here), so with your board you may get it stable at something close to 1.35v. If you manage to pull that out, you will probably be fine with the AIO and just giving up 200MHz. But you didn't get a 9590 to run at 4.5, so it's worth trying voltage settings until you can thermally manage a stable 4.7  

54c was at idle, ive kept stock clock to try it and volts at 1.39 seems to be stable

 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

Just now, Cptdavepilm said:

54c was at idle, ive kept stock clock to try it and volts at 1.39 seems to be stable

 

That is strange, it shouldn't get too warm idling if the cooler works normally. Is that socket temp (as measured by the motherboard) or the package temp reported by the CPU? The latter is usually some fake sub-ambient number in idle. Socket temps can be high even if the package temps are low due to VRMs getting hotter. If it's only the socket temp that it's that high, you can try attaching a small fan on the VRM heatsink and see if that improves.

I wouldn't expect more than 30s-40s in idle socket temps, though.

[Cptdavepilm]

NOPE, still overheating... this is driving me insane

 

[Vode]

1 hour ago, Cptdavepilm said:

NOPE, still overheating... this is driving me insane

 

Do some sanity checks like feeling if the tubes of the AiO are warm to the touch, the waterblock is warm and most importantly check CPU temps immediately after a coldstart when it has been turned off for a couple hours. 

 

What are the load temps at?

[Gargone77]

I've had similar questions with my Asus board.  The socket temps are much higher than the core temps.  If you're looking at temp readings from Asus AI Suite, for example, it will show the socket temp.  The socket is not cooled, so it just builds up heat until there's enough to pass through the board/cpu.  My core temps rarely, go over 50c, but my socket temp reading will show 62-63 at idle.  I'm running an 8320, so my numbers will be lower.  Try a different utility to read core temps.  You may find that the core temps are fine.

[Kenrou]

Try HWinfo64, I've had zero issues with the Sabertooth though. Either your cooler simply isn't working properly/good enough or you got your voltage on auto and is insane high. This baby idled around 15c-20c (in AMD's weird temp reads) and topped out at 4.7ghz 1.428v ~55c with a NH-D15 so silicon lottery aside you should be around that ?

[Cptdavepilm]

nope, still overheating. i have fans cooling the socket from the rear, i have fans cooling the VRMs. nothings working. its a shame because it never used to do this, no hardware changes except the cooler to try and remedy this. im thinking maybe my cpu is dying. if it is then i seen ryzen on the horizon (no pun intended).

 

that being said, this cpu has been really good for me in terms of performance so i will be sad to see it go.

Anyway, thank you for all your help people.

 

Dave

[Cptdavepilm]

i know this is old and this reply is really late, it turned out to be bad thermal paste, i bought from a retailer called maplin and it was old and stored near a shop heater, i replaced it with some MX stuff and it works perfectly now, and stays quite cool

 

thanks to all those who replied