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AGP GPU that doesn't cost a kidney?

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BEFORE YOU RESPOND, don't tell me "just build a new system or buy a new motherboard, AGP GPUs suck and aren't worth buying!", I know that! This is just for fun.

 

So a system I'm messing around with has a 9600 pro AGP which is just way too old to even start any benchmarks. I'm not looking for something more powerful, just something more "modern". The GPU actually does a great job with minecraft max settings, running over 60 FPS which is just cool. I just need something more modern like I said. The HD 3850 is one of the best AGP GPUs afaik, but I could buy a GTX 1050 for the price those go for, which is just fucking insane. What is a AGP card that is common on ebay, but is better than a 9600 pro?

 

I'd like to be able to start furmark, unigine valley and Dolphin, the 9600pro can't do any of that. Thanks to anyone who responds, I know this is just plain silly but idfc.

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1 minute ago, LTTQuantum said:

Even more expensive, and worse than the 9600 pro. :(

 

Why must AGP GPUs be so obscure and rare?

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The most recent AGP card I've spotted online is the HD4650. Look on eBay

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3 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Even more expensive, and worse than the 9600 pro. :(

 

Why must AGP GPUs be so obscure and rare?

there is a unknown agp gpu someone i knwow has, i could send it to you maybe if i can buy it and you pay shiiping. itl be like total maybe £20 or $25

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23 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

BEFORE YOU RESPOND, don't tell me "just build a new system or buy a new motherboard, AGP GPUs suck and aren't worth buying!", I know that! This is just for fun.

 

So a system I'm messing around with has a 9600 pro AGP which is just way too old to even start any benchmarks. I'm not looking for something more powerful, just something more "modern". The GPU actually does a great job with minecraft max settings, running over 60 FPS which is just cool. I just need something more modern like I said. The HD 3850 is one of the best AGP GPUs afaik, but I could buy a GTX 1050 for the price those go for, which is just fucking insane. What is a AGP card that is common on ebay, but is better than a 9600 pro?

 

I'd like to be able to start furmark, unigine valley and Dolphin, the 9600pro can't do any of that. Thanks to anyone who responds, I know this is just plain silly but idfc.

Look on Ebay for a Geforce 6200. There should be some EVGA ones which date from 2009. However the catch is that despite being stated as having 512MB of vRAM, its actually 128MB of DDR2 over a 64bit bus with the driver allocating the rest from system memory (aka they are 6200 Turbocache models). Or you could look for Geforce FX5500. I managed to get a generic 256MB one quite cheap+new in box (the FX5500 is an FX5200 with a 128bit bus, it helps a lot in games where your limited by low SDRAM or AGP x4 -or both).

Of the 2 the FX5500 is better, however the 6200 consumes far less power and is passively cooled.

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27 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

The most recent AGP card I've spotted online is the HD4650. Look on eBay

Still costs a kidney. :/

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1 minute ago, 2Buck said:

Still costs a kidney. :/

Well, they're collector's items now so a price hike isn't surprising.

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22 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Look on Ebay for a Geforce 6200. There should be some EVGA ones which date from 2009. However the catch is that despite being stated as having 512MB of vRAM, its actually 128MB of DDR2 over a 64bit bus with the driver allocating the rest from system memory (aka they are 6200 Turbocache models). Or you could look for Geforce FX5500. I managed to get a generic 256MB one quite cheap+new in box (the FX5500 is an FX5200 with a 128bit bus, it helps a lot in games where your limited by low SDRAM or AGP x4 -or both).

Of the 2 the FX5500 is better, however the 6200 consumes far less power and is passively cooled.

Thank you very much. I have considered going with a 5500, but (from what I can tell) seems to be slower than the 9600 pro. It might be more modern feature wise though, so I still might do it. Thanks. :)

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Just now, ibabyslapper said:

Well, they're collector's items now so a price hike isn't surprising.

I know, and it's a real shame. Though it's very understandable as they're very rare. Oh well. :I

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"modern" agp cards are quite rare because most gamers switched to PCIe soon after the geforce 6000 and radeon HD 3000 cards came out

 

don't know much about the ATI side of cards other than the agp variants of their HD cards are a nightmare to find working drivers for - i spent a whole weekend trying to get one to work on a friends computer with no luck - and that was back in 2007 when they were still sort of relevant

 

try to get a 6000 or 7000 series geforce ... something like a geforce 6800 or 7600

 

though i imagine not that many of them have been sold and so they could be on the rare and expensive side ...

 

other than that, maybe something like a geforce 5800 or a radeon X800 or X1600 could do the job - while one of these probably won't get valley running, they should help with dolphin (you mean the gamecube emulator - right?) 

 

but then again ... what CPU do you have that comes with an AGP mainboard ?

 

if you want to run dolphin on a pre-socket-775 pentium or socket 939 AMD - fuggetaboutid. performance will suck big time

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6 hours ago, KenjiUmino said:

"modern" agp cards are quite rare because most gamers switched to PCIe soon after the geforce 6000 and radeon HD 3000 cards came out

 

don't know much about the ATI side of cards other than the agp variants of their HD cards are a nightmare to find working drivers for - i spent a whole weekend trying to get one to work on a friends computer with no luck - and that was back in 2007 when they were still sort of relevant

 

try to get a 6000 or 7000 series geforce ... something like a geforce 6800 or 7600

 

though i imagine not that many of them have been sold and so they could be on the rare and expensive side ...

 

other than that, maybe something like a geforce 5800 or a radeon X800 or X1600 could do the job - while one of these probably won't get valley running, they should help with dolphin (you mean the gamecube emulator - right?) 

 

but then again ... what CPU do you have that comes with an AGP mainboard ?

 

if you want to run dolphin on a pre-socket-775 pentium or socket 939 AMD - fuggetaboutid. performance will suck big time

Yeah, I'm thinking a 6800, the FX 5000 is just way too slow. I'll just have to keep an eye out for a good price. As of now the prices are just too insane. I'm using a OC'd Athlon 64x2 4200+ @2.8ghz. I'm not really trying to get Dolphin to run perfectly or anything, it's mainly for shits and giggles. (yes, the GC/Wii emulator btw)

 

Thanks for the reply, you seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff. :)

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