Ryzen Overclock questions

[Choli90]

I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen 7 CPU.  The issue I'm having trouble with is, which one.

 

Based on what I'm reading the 1700 is the best bang for the buck because you can overclock it to 4 ghz with water cooling.

So here are a few questions i have:

 

1. Is 4 ghz on all cores easily achievable on the 1700 with water or would i need to win the silicon lottery?

 

2. If 4 ghz is achievable on the 1700, then can the 1700x or 1800x achieve even a higher overclock on all cores.

 

3.  If so, what is the highest overclock?

 

If I remember correctly, it seemed the highest the 1800x went to was 4.2, but i couldn't remember if that was with acceptable voltage or not (acceptable being in the range AMD says the chip can handle)

 

Overall I'm leaning towards either the 1700 or 1700x, but trying to see the difference between the two.  For example can I overclock higher then 4 ghz or is it still 4 the but with less voltage, etc

 

Thanks

[pelark]

If youre planning on gaming, I'd wait to see what AMD has in store for their 4 and 6 core R5 cpus

[Godlygamer23]

9 minutes ago, Mayorville said:

2. If 4 ghz is achievable on the 1700, then can the 1700x or 1800x achieve even a higher overclock on all cores.

 

3.  If so, what is the highest overclock?

These are both variable questions. The chances of you receiving a higher clock on the 1700X and 1800X chips are higher, but no one can say 100%. In both areas, you might get dud chips that can only sustain base and turbos under AMD's circumstances. 

[Choli90]

I didn't really play games, but I did video editing.  Getting a dud chip is what I would be afraid of.  

[Evanair]

 

2 hours ago, Mayorville said:

If so, what is the highest overclock

Check my signature.  That's the highest OC I've been able to get, but it was unstable at times unless I seriously bumped the voltage.  I'm able to maintain a 4.1ghz OC under heavy load with all 8 cores enabled with SMT.  This is only using a H100i GTX too, nothing super fancy.

 

As for buying AMD now, I'd wait till the issues with the motherboards iron themselves out.  Ram Voltages, cooler mounting (too much pressure causing bricking/freezing), bricking during BIOS Update (do it within Windows, I've done it 4 times and it's been successful)... too many issues to iron out right now.  

 

The sweet spot for me is the 1700x, but figured for 100 extra, I would just get the top of the line.  The 1700x chips are going to be binned best compared to the 1700 and I figured the 1800x would be a step up binning wise than the 1700x.

[Shaurya_TH]

i am confused between a 6800k or r7 1700x system. i plan to game but also plan to do some video editing i have both a 1080 144hz and a 4k 60hz monitor. i was wondering if it was possible to manually overclock 2-3 cores of the 1700x leaving the rest at base speeds? since hitting 4 ghz on all 8 cores produces a ton of heat and most games wont use all the cores anyway. 

P.S. i have a NZXT kraken x52 for coolign hoping to get about 4.2-4.3 on 2-4 cores.

please help 

thanks