1k5 budget for Ryzen 7 without GPU (desktop)

[NameDoesNotFi]

First time builder, happens to have two 980ti hybird for sli and a Titan XP, have all monitors and Peripherals.    I did a lot of research and here is my plan,

CPU: since bio update is not complete, 1700 might look like a good choice in the short run, that makes 1800x not worth so much now, but I want that extra XFR so I would go for the 1700x ( chose Kraken-x62 so)

GPU: want to sli 980ti hybird for a better content creating environment,  ( might sell Titian XP to get 1080ti SLI)

Motherboard: no "best" motherboard yet, but the taichi one has a 12+4 power pin, WiFi 2.4/5 GHz Antennas, 7.1ch al1220 audio, and the taichi logo.......I want the best value one.  

Case: I was looking at the Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX ATX Mid T case, but I want to do sli and put my 280mm radiator at front, and my two hirbirds radiator,, so I changed my mind to get a felxable full tower case for better air flow and                   placemnt

PSU: all overcloking, 850 good?

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($149.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($235.00) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($124.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID Video Card (2-Way SLI)  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Black/Silver) ATX Full Tower Case  ($214.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.71 @ Jet) 
Total: $1241.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-10 00:55 EST-0500

 

at the end it's really hard to pcik the right ryzen7, cuz 1700 had lower temp for overclocking, but not every chip has that 3.9 ticket.  

 

Any suggestion appreciated.  

[robertpartridge]

Looks good to me - though I really question the dual 980ti config - but seeing as you've already got them then sounds great!

[NameDoesNotFi]

1 minute ago, robertpartridge said:

Looks good to me - though I really question the dual 980ti config - but seeing as you've already got them then sounds great!

Which cpu would you pick?

[phongle123]

Might as well go 1800x since you've still got the budget for it.
1700 is a good choice for the low wattage TDP.

I'd also suggest a MSI Motherboard for their MSI Game Boost Knob which overclock your CPU with a physical switch on the MB.

[robertpartridge]

Just now, NameDoesNotFi said:

Which cpu would you pick?

I personally would go with the 1700 - mostly because I perfer "value" over necessarily absolutely max performance.  With what I've seen though, the 1700 clocks pretty damn close to where the 1800x is clocking.  You'd mentioned wanting the XFR of the X chips - me personally I'd have that turned off and run a stable OC'd clock.

[NameDoesNotFi]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

Might as well go 1800x since you've still got the budget for it.

I know, its within the budget but I can spent the extra for another pair of 8x2gb ram, 32 for content creating.  

[NameDoesNotFi]

Does the 1700 stable at 3.6~3.9 on idle?  and temperature?  I know it can overcloking to a certain point, but for dailiy use, I am not sure..

[phongle123]

6 minutes ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

I know, its within the budget but I can spent the extra for another pair of 8x2gb ram, 32 for content creating.  

I updated my previous post also.

 

Anyways, I've looked into 16 vs 32 vs 64 GB of ram. For some reason, going from 16 to 32 GB of ram doesn't do much. But going to 64 does do a lot. https://youtu.be/eJtrQ5CcCN0?t=2m39shttps://youtu.be/eJtrQ5CcCN0?t=2m39s

 

For production rendering-wise.

Considering:

16GB = 1.0x rendering speed,

32GB = 1.4x

64GB = 3.1x

32GB is 2x of 16GB but gives 1.4x (+.4x), so 64GB which is 4x of 16GB should give 2.2x(+1.2x) but it gives 3.1x(+2.1x) instead.

[robertpartridge]

Just now, NameDoesNotFi said:

Does the 1700 stable at 3.6~3.9 on idle?  and temperature?  I know it can overcloking to a certain point, but for dailiy use, I am not sure..

So long as your temps are good it won't be an issue.

 

Example - my current CPU has a 900Mhz OC over it's base.  I run this temp all day every day (on air cooling no less).  Right now my cpu temp is about 36C.

[NameDoesNotFi]

2 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

 

32GB is 2x of 16GB but gives 1.4x, so 64GB which is 4x of 16GB should give 2.6x but it gives 3.1x instead.

oh cool to know, is that a total rame or a 32x2 gb?   I am talking about 4 8x2ram or 2 32x2 ram

[phongle123]

2 minutes ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

oh cool to know, is that a total rame or a 32x2 gb?   I am talking about 4 8x2ram or 2 32x2 ram

On that part you quoted, I'm not talking about RAM sticks, I was talking about the total RAM the system is using in the rendering process and the amount it benefits after 16GB. For the video linked.

[The Sloth]

1700 or 1700x is a good value, your build looks good all around. 

[brob]

Content creation doesn't use SLI. Typically most editors use a single gpu for editing. Multiple gpu may be used for rendering.

[NameDoesNotFi]

5 minutes ago, brob said:

Content creation doesn't use SLI. Typically most editors use a single gpu for editing. Multiple gpu may be used for rendering.

You are right, I am rendering some 4k video as well, I don't know how overlocking the cpu benifits the overall performance.  Getting a high clockspeed means higher tempearture, I feel like the 1700x will get hotter than the 1700 if overclocked, cuz 1700x draws more power.  65w and 95w its a game changer for cpu right?

[robertpartridge]

Just now, NameDoesNotFi said:

You are right, I am rendering some 4k video as well, I don't know how overlocking the cpu benifits the overall performance.  Getting a high clockspeed means higher tempearture, I feel like the 1700x will get hotter than the 1700 if overclocked, cuz 1700x draws more power.  65w and 95w its a game changer for cpu right?

The 65W vs 95W isn't power draw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power

[NameDoesNotFi]

 

8 minutes ago, robertpartridge said:

The 65W vs 95W isn't power draw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power

It means the lower the easier for the cooler to control temp?

[robertpartridge]

Just now, NameDoesNotFi said:

 

It means the lower the easier for the cooler to control temp?

Lower TDP = less heat.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

 

It means the lower the easier for the cooler to control temp?

A good cooler will perform good. 

[brob]

15 minutes ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

You are right, I am rendering some 4k video as well, I don't know how overlocking the cpu benifits the overall performance.  Getting a high clockspeed means higher tempearture, I feel like the 1700x will get hotter than the 1700 if overclocked, cuz 1700x draws more power.  65w and 95w its a game changer for cpu right?

The higher TDP is due to XFR. Running all cores at higher speeds is going to increase heat generation. But overclocking a 1700 is almost certainly going to generate as much heat as a 1700X at the same clock.

[NameDoesNotFi]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

The higher TDP is due to XFR. Running all cores at higher speeds is going to increase heat generation. But overclocking a 1700 is almost certainly going to generate as much heat as a 1700X at the same clock.

That looks like the 1700K is a good value pick other than 1800x than.  Hope I can draw a silicon ticket on 1700x.

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

That looks like the 1700K is a good value pick other than 1800x than.  Hope I can draw a silicon ticket on 1700x.

I would go with the 1700 none x the xfr is not really that good and a manual overclock would need to be done on a 1700x anyway. As for the motherboard, that is the best choice atm. And as you will have everything under water you should have no heat issues in that case. 

[NameDoesNotFi]

6 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

I would go with the 1700 none x the xfr is not really that good and a manual overclock would need to be done on a 1700x anyway. As for the motherboard, that is the best choice atm. And as you will have everything under water you should have no heat issues in that case. 

Does that 3 radiator fits a mid tower case?  The one I chose was full tower at 250.

[Jumper118]

7 minutes ago, NameDoesNotFi said:

Does that 3 radiator fits a mid tower case?  The one I chose was full tower at 250.

Yeah I don't see y why not. One. In front one on back and one. At the top. 

[stealth80]

I wouldn't change much, however if you have $1500 for the tower and 2x 980ti + a titan XP laying around I would

 

1) Send the titan XP to me

2) Sell the 980ti's and XP cause you don't like/know me which I reckon would net you around $1200 - $1400 if you sell quick

 

then build the following replacing the 1080 FE's ive used as place holders for 2x 1080ti

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($149.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($235.00)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($689.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($689.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Black/Silver) ATX Full Tower Case  ($214.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.71 @ Jet)
Total: $2896.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-10 03:36 EST-0500

[NumLock21]

I'm guessing pcpp does not know there are ryzen kits for the Kraken?