Razer blade 2017

[natsuu]

So i was planing to get the New razer blade UHD version which is 4k with   i7-7700HQ Quad-Core Processor with Hyper-Threading 2.8GHz / 3.8GHz, a gtx 1060, and 16 gb of ram is this strong enough to run mac vm, for school purposes and no i do not want to get an actual mac from apple

 

Thanks!

Natsuu

 

Heres the Laptop: https://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blade

 

[Damascus]

Probably, I don't know if gtx 1060 works on mac OS

[Guest Kloaked]

Don't do it. I made the mistake of buying a Razer laptop recently (gave them another shot) and I had to return it due to thermal issues and bad coil whine. Do yourself a favor and avoid their laptops.

 

You would literally do better with any other brand.

[exercutor5]

Your Mac VM would not directly be able to detect the 1060, but you can set your VM software to use your 1060, so it would be graphically accelerated, which improves the overall smoothness, been there done that, but not on a Blade, cos Blade is ewwwwww.

[The Sloth]

17 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Don't do it. I made the mistake of buying a Razer laptop recently (gave them another shot) and I had to return it due to thermal issues and bad coil whine. Do yourself a favor and avoid their laptops.

 

You would literally do better with any other brand.

 

i also  heard lots of heating issues, i suggest a msi gt vr stealth.  

[natsuu]

21 hours ago, exercutor5 said:

Your Mac VM would not directly be able to detect the 1060, but you can set your VM software to use your 1060, so it would be graphically accelerated, which improves the overall smoothness, been there done that, but not on a Blade, cos Blade is ewwwwww.

 

21 hours ago, Kloaked said:

Don't do it. I made the mistake of buying a Razer laptop recently (gave them another shot) and I had to return it due to thermal issues and bad coil whine. Do yourself a favor and avoid their laptops.

 

You would literally do better with any other brand.

 

21 hours ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

Please don't and no it wont.

 

21 hours ago, Damascus said:

Probably, I don't know if gtx 1060 works on mac OS

They just came out with a new one addressing all those issues, and i did it on the system i built which has a I 7 6850k and a gtx 1080 and its working fine

[Guest Kloaked]

38 minutes ago, natsuu said:

 

 

 

They just came out with a new one addressing all those issues, and i did it on the system i built which has a I 7 6850k and a gtx 1080 and its working fine

A new one what?

[natsuu]

5 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

A new one what?

they refreshed their line of razer blades

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, natsuu said:

they refreshed their line of razer blades

I had a new one. That's what I meant by recently.

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, natsuu said:

They just came out with a new one addressing all those issues, and i did it on the system i built which has a I 7 6850k and a gtx 1080 and its working fine

 

no they didnt. and that second part makes no sense. How does ur desktop have anything to do with this discussion. 

 

The new model has two new things. The replaced the 6700HQ with the 7700HQ and they replaced the trash 1800p IGZO panel with a 4k one. Also that makes thermals even worse. Cause Kaby Lake is even denser than Skylake. So Razer's shit HDT heatsink is still shit. There is ZERO reason to use HDT on laptops other than cost savings so fuck it, go for it if you want. Don't ask for advice when you run into issues because unless you plan to void the SHIT out of ur warranty (cause Razer warranty is so bad it voids instnatly as soon as you pop it open), then you'll be stuck with a throttling jet engine mess. 

[natsuu]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

no they didnt. and that second part makes no sense. How does ur desktop have anything to do with this discussion. 

cause some one said the 1060 might not work but my 1080 work and they use the same architecture

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, natsuu said:

cause some one said the 1060 might not work but my 1080 work and they use the same architecture

can you show me? I'm genuinely curious. As far as I know, Mac OS still doesn't have drivers for Pascal yet. Lemme know if they have updated it. Does the OS recognize the 1080 and runs graphics applications off of it?

[natsuu]

Just now, Pendragon said:

can you show me? I'm genuinely curious. As far as I know, Mac OS still doesn't have drivers for Pascal yet. Lemme know if they have updated it. 

well its not like a hackingtosh which i tried and did not work but i got the vm to work, its a tad bit laggy but, light weight stuff is okay, 

https://gyazo.com/352255fed180261ae8600e5065c49958

[Pendragon]

3 minutes ago, natsuu said:

well its not like a hackingtosh which i tried and did not work but i got the vm to work, its a tad bit laggy but, light weight stuff is okay, 

 

 

I ment does the VM register the 1080? Like can you play games with a 1080 on the VM. 

[natsuu]

4 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

I ment does the VM register the 1080? Like can you play games with a 1080 on the VM. 

... why the hell would you play games on a mac vm and i have a 6850k which has no on board graphics so there's no other place it can get its graphics from

[Pendragon]

3 minutes ago, natsuu said:

... why the hell would you play games on a mac vm and i have a 6850k which has no on board graphics so there's no other place it can get its graphics from

not play games, maybe run like Final Cut Pro or any apps. I'm just curious because I don't run a Mac VM. Mac's entire operating system doesn't support Pascal AT ALL. So I'm just curious how a Mac VM deals with using a 1080 on VM. 

[Pendragon]

12 minutes ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

Won't work, period. There are no pascal drivers for MacOS because the new line of AMD GPUs are inside the new macbook (polaris).

 

ikr, i'm curious how a VM deals with it though. I don't understand VMs well enough to know how they graphically display things with things they don't support. 

[natsuu]

19 minutes ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

Won't work, period. There are no pascal drivers for MacOS because the new line of AMD GPUs are inside the new macbook (polaris).

once again would like to remind you its not a hackingtosh its a virtual machine 

[natsuu]

15 minutes ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

With unsupported drivers on the same OS? You are still using the same hardware in the VM on the same OS but virtualised - give me one reason virtualising a unsupported driver issue would create a fix it.

Explain why the vm worked when i had no on board graphics and if it dosent support the 1080

[exercutor5]

9 hours ago, natsuu said:

Explain why the vm worked when i had no on board graphics and if it dosent support the 1080

Dude, your monitor is connected directly to your 1080, so what are you talking about here? And VMs do not come into direct contact with any PCIe device whatsoever, so there is no way your VM in any operating system at all can tell that you are using a GTX 1080 in your system at all, because all that is installed is the drivers for the virtual machine software you are using. If you don't believe me about the part where VMs don't come into contact with your PCIe devices, install Windows on a VM and tell me what you see under display adapters. All your 1080 is doing is just throwing whatever image is rendered by your computer onto your monitor, nothing else, and it also only makes your VMs run smoother.

[exercutor5]

3 hours ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

Genuinely think he is trolling us tho.

idk but this thread is really getting no where.

[natsuu]

3 hours ago, Aleksiandrovich said:

Genuinely think he is trolling us tho.

who the hell would have time like that to waste... I asked a question and you didnt anwser or without reason that like someone asking how do you drive and you just say get in a car

[natsuu]

12 minutes ago, exercutor5 said:

idk but this thread is really getting no where.

its not...

[Kalm_Traveler]

to the OP - it will handle that fine but probably be too loud for class with a VM running. 

 

I bought the new 7700hq model and have been using it for about 10 days so far, and can attest that it does seem to be much improved from the Skylake versions judging by the negative comments people made about them. 

Mine has been fine, but I will admit that curiosity got the best of me so I happily voided the Razer warranty by repasting with Grizzly Kryonaut and replacing the stock thermal pads with Fujipoly extremes to see if I could get the CPU temps even lower (after 2 days of stress testing it was idling in upper 40's C). I also replaced the 256gb PM951 with a 1TB 960 Pro (which generates more heat so I put pads on it too) and swapped the Killer 1525 wifi card for an Intel 8265 for fewer software headaches based on reviews of Killer's software. Also undervolted the CPU by .120mv and igpu by 0.055mv stable.

 

After all the monkeying around I've done I'd say it's perfect for a mobile workhorse like I wanted. CPU is now idling around 36-40 C in 70 F ambient room, no issues after a week and a half of stress-testing the crap out of it. The fans don't kick on unless CPU cores get above about 65 C or so, which doesn't happen for me doing light stuff like Chrome tabs, Youtube, etc but as I said I am pretty sure that an OS X virtual machine would be strenuous enough to kick them on, and they are not quiet even on the slow speed. You would at best annoy your classmates, and at worst be asked by the professor to turn your machine off.

 

I can't comment on any previous model because this is my first Razer laptop, but so far overall it seems like decent build quality but I would question the assembly done by hand as the factory paste on the CPU and GPU did not seem to be done well, with some uncomfortably (to me) large spots without any paste on them from the factory, but as I said it was still not overheating even that way. I just improved it with better paste, proper paste method, and better thermal pads.

[natsuu]

9 hours ago, Kalm_Traveler1 said:

to the OP - it will handle that fine but probably be too loud for class with a VM running. 

 

I bought the new 7700hq model and have been using it for about 10 days so far, and can attest that it does seem to be much improved from the Skylake versions judging by the negative comments people made about them. 

Mine has been fine, but I will admit that curiosity got the best of me so I happily voided the Razer warranty by repasting with Grizzly Kryonaut and replacing the stock thermal pads with Fujipoly extremes to see if I could get the CPU temps even lower (after 2 days of stress testing it was idling in upper 40's C). I also replaced the 256gb PM951 with a 1TB 960 Pro (which generates more heat so I put pads on it too) and swapped the Killer 1525 wifi card for an Intel 8265 for fewer software headaches based on reviews of Killer's software. Also undervolted the CPU by .120mv and igpu by 0.055mv stable.

 

After all the monkeying around I've done I'd say it's perfect for a mobile workhorse like I wanted. CPU is now idling around 36-40 C in 70 F ambient room, no issues after a week and a half of stress-testing the crap out of it. The fans don't kick on unless CPU cores get above about 65 C or so, which doesn't happen for me doing light stuff like Chrome tabs, Youtube, etc but as I said I am pretty sure that an OS X virtual machine would be strenuous enough to kick them on, and they are not quiet even on the slow speed. You would at best annoy your classmates, and at worst be asked by the professor to turn your machine off.

 

I can't comment on any previous model because this is my first Razer laptop, but so far overall it seems like decent build quality but I would question the assembly done by hand as the factory paste on the CPU and GPU did not seem to be done well, with some uncomfortably (to me) large spots without any paste on them from the factory, but as I said it was still not overheating even that way. I just improved it with better paste, proper paste method, and better thermal pads.

are the fans seriously that loud