Low FPS without bottleneck

[DimitrisMel]

Ok so the game I play most these days is WoW (Legion). I have a brand new GTX 1060 3GB from Palit with dual fans which I overclocked for the sake of max-ing it out. As I was testing the performance I noticed I'm not getting very good FPS (39) even without any component of my PC being used 100%. So there seems to be a bottleneck that I can't locate. I think the screenshot I'm posting says everything. My CPU loads sits at around 50% and my GPU load even lower than that. Then GPU's memory is only at 70% and as you can see, it definitely isn't a GPU power consumption or heat throttle problem. I'm running the latest Nvidia drivers and I'm not infected with any malware that I'm aware of. Also the vsync is off and it gets confirmed everytime I get to smaller space in the game (where there is no distance graphics involved) and the fps are through the roof. Lastly, I'm clarifying that the pic is taken as one due to dual monitors, so the values you are seeing are simultaneous at the game's maximum settings (FPS are shown at lower right corner via Nvidia Experience). Here are my PC specs:

Motherboard: H110M PRO-VD
CPU: Intel i3-6100 @ 3.7Ghz
Ram: Single 8GB DDR4 stick @ 2133Mhz
PSU: NOD 550 Watts
Storage: Radeon R3 SSD 240GB + WD Caviar 1TB @ 7200 rpm
Monitors: Dual LG 24" LED Monitors 1080p @ 60Hz
OS: Windows 10 x64

Final thoughts are that the only component I'm not monitoring through this test is my PSU, but I don't think this would be my PC's behavior, if the problem was the PSU. I imagine the system would just shut down if it didn't have enough power. So I really need your help with this one.

[LabRat]

don't over clock the card. what happens?

under clock the gpu and ram, what happens?

gpu isn't the only thing that gets hot on those cards.

and maybe it's one of those they forgot to put thermal pads on?

[Xreldo]

Turn down the graphic settings 3gb of vram could not be enough to store all wow ultra texture. Try turning the settings to 7 instead of 10 see how it goes as well as I image at such high settings having 39 fps in dalaran is normal.

[DimitrisMel]

Thanks for both your answers.

 

17 minutes ago, LabRat said:

don't over clock the card. what happens?

under clock the gpu and ram, what happens?

gpu isn't the only thing that gets hot on those cards.

and maybe it's one of those they forgot to put thermal pads on?

 

Oh man you are scaring me. Don't tell me I have to tear my brand new graphics card apart to check for thermal pads or to have to return it. Anyway, I did test it with the graphics card at default speed and the results are pretty much the same (so I guess the core and memory clocks are not making it any faster OR slower right?). I'm posting another pic of it.

 

14 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Turn down the graphic settings 3gb of vram could not be enough to store all wow ultra texture.

That was my initial thought, but then if this is true why is not all my vram used before low FPS happen? If not all, why not at least 2.8GB used?

14 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Try turning the settings to 7 instead of 10 see how it goes as well as I image at such high settings having 39 fps in dalaran is normal.

Yes you are right, it is normal. The people that play the game know that dalaran is heavy on the GPU's cause of the many characters there (the models seems to be pretty heavy in this game). But in any case, I'm baffled as to why I am not able to squeeze all the power out of my card before I get lower FPS. At settings at 7 the game runs at 60 FPS.

[Xreldo]

1 minute ago, DimitrisMel said:

Thanks for both your answers.

 

 

Oh man you are scaring me. Don't tell me I have to tear my brand new graphics card apart to check for thermal pads or to have to return it. Anyway, I did test it with the graphics card at default speed and the results are pretty much the same (so I guess the core and memory clocks are not making it any faster OR slower right?). I'm posting another pic of it.

 

That was my initial thought, but then if this is true why is not all my vram used before low FPS happen? If not all, why not at least 2.8GB used?

Yes you are right, it is normal. The people that play the game know that dalaran is heavy on the GPU's cause of the many characters there (the models seems to be pretty heavy in this game). But in any case, I'm baffled as to why I am not able to squeeze all the power out of my card before I get lower FPS. At settings at 7 the game runs at 60 FPS.

Before legion 7 was the maximum settings but legion has introduced another 3 steps for 1070,1080 and titan X by the way what is your battle net ima add you.

[DimitrisMel]

1 minute ago, Xreldo said:

Before legion 7 was the maximum settings but legion has introduced another 3 steps for 1070,1080 and titan X by the way what is your battle net ima add you.

DimitrisMel#2203

[DimitrisMel]

I think it's good to test it with 3d mark and some other tools to compare it with other users, but even if all this is normal, the question remains. Why I am not able to squeeze all the power out of my card before I get lower FPS? If the usage of the components of my PC (CPU, GPU and SSD) are not the definitive measurement, then what is?

[LabRat]

what kind of performance are you expecting? the 3gig card is a cut down version of the 6gig card. it won;'t be the same.

the memory, yes speed does matter. the faster it is the faster the information gets transferred.

i made the suggestion to under clock to troubleshoot.

[DimitrisMel]

I'm not expecting to get 120 FPS with this card at max settings. Frankly if I was getting 39 FPS with e.g. my card running out of memory, or the CPU running at 100%, I wouldn't have even started this thread. But all I'm baffled about is that I realistically can't max out my PC, I can't get any part of it to work at 100% or at least anything that I can monitor. So in case there is a bottleneck somewhere, I can't find it, hence I don't know what to upgrade next.

 

And I did underclock my GPU and I'm getting about the same results (even though I don't know how this helps troubleshooting, what should I be getting?). As for the RAM I really don't know how to underclock it. Do I have to do it via the BIOS only?

[LabRat]

how did you under clock the gpu?

[DimitrisMel]

Using afterburner, the same software I used to overclock it. I brought down the core and memory clocks.

[LabRat]

thought you said " As for the RAM I really don't know how to underclock it"............ that's what I just copied from your last post. now you just said you did.

wonder, is the game and all it's assets on the ssd or is information being pulled from the HD?

[DimitrisMel]

Oh you meant VRAM. that was confusing.

 

Well the game plays from the SSD not the HD.