type c usb type c vs. thunderbolt 3

[Drwilyam]

so i watched all the ltt videos on thunderbolt 3 and type c and was wondering if thunderbolt is vastly superior to normal type c besides faster data transfer and displayport connectivity,is power delivery better? what if i had a type c device? would it benefit from charging off a thunderbolt cable? p.s. i don't have a phone that charges off type c i have an iphone 6s plus. I'm just curious.  

[Mira Yurizaki]

USB Type C is a formfactor that is only guaranteed to support the USB 3.0 protocol. USB Type C can support Thunderbolt 3 and DisplayPort if it's implemented.

 

Otherwise Thunderbolt applications are slim because Intel charges a heftier license fee on top of it being more expensive and power hungry to implement than USB.

[The Sloth]

i have a 6p and a 7plus, the usb c port of the 6p is much better than the lightning port. 

[Sniperfox47]

5 hours ago, Drwilyam said:

so i watched all the ltt videos on thunderbolt 3 and type c and was wondering if thunderbolt is vastly superior to normal type c besides faster data transfer and displayport connectivity,is power delivery better? what if i had a type c device? would it benefit from charging off a thunderbolt cable? p.s. i don't have a phone that charges off type c i have an iphone 6s plus. I'm just curious.  

Type c is just about form factor. It's vastly superior to type-A from a feature standpoint of the form factor but can vary widely.

 

Thunderbolt 3 is a specific implementation of type-c. It lets you pass USB 3.1, DisplayPort 1.2, and thunderbolt data across a single port. That doesn't mean it's strictly better than other implementations though. There are asmedia type-C controllers that support things like DisplayPort 1.3/1.4 or Ethernet Alternate Mode which thunderbolt 3 does not. 

 

5 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

USB Type C is a formfactor that is only guaranteed to support the USB 3.0 protocol.

Not true. USB Type C is only guaranteed to support USB 1.0. There are a number of certified USB 2.0 type-C devices out on the market.

[Mira Yurizaki]

11 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Not true. USB Type C is only guaranteed to support USB 1.0. There are a number of certified USB 2.0 type-C devices out on the market.

Let's just say it's guaranteed to support USB, except USB 3.1 Gen 2

 

Because why not confuse the masses.

[Sniperfox47]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Let's just say it's guaranteed to support USB, except USB 3.1 Gen 2

 

Because why not confuse the masses.

Because letter has always been a form factor spec and number has always been an interface/protocol spec? So confusing xP

 

Yes, I know people legitimately did get confused. I just don't understand what's so difficult to understand about it. The letter describes what the port looks like and the number describes the speed. Simple.

[Mira Yurizaki]

17 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Because letter has always been a form factor spec and number has always been an interface/protocol spec? So confusing xP

 

Yes, I know people legitimately did get confused. I just don't understand what's so difficult to understand about it. The letter describes what the port looks like and the number describes the speed. Simple.

Because remembering protocols and cables and figuring out if your connector supports X interface or Y interface shouldn't be a research project (yes, spending 10 minutes on Google is a research project)

 

As silly as it is for the layman to think connect === interface, the fact remains, that's how most people see connectors. If your connector attempts to do everything but really it's only guaranteed to do some things, that only asking for confusion and angry people. So that's the biggest gripe I have with USB Type C. It's trying to be everything but doesn't really demand that it is everything.