HERE WE GO AGAIN - Is this laptop a scam?

[Armakar]

I made a thread a while back about an EVOC laptop on amazon that was hundreds of pounds underpriced.

 

Since then, I haven't heard back from amazon since reporting it as fraudulent.

 

I have now found this laptop on Amazon, an EVOC laptop (https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVOC-P650HS-AUK6-G-SYNC-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B01N9S802T/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1486042199&sr=8-7&keywords=i7+7700hq+1070), hundreds of pounds underpriced. I find it hard to believe it's a scam. They have 90 reviews, mostly positive, and Amazon is one of the most, if not the most trusted ecommerce.

 

I have email confirmation from Amazon saying if the product is fake or doesn't arrive, i'm entitled to my money back..

 

So two  questions!

 

One, should I buy it?

 

Two, are EVOC laptops good? 

[BloodyWaters]

1. If you think it is a good deal

2. Never owned a gaming laptop. 

[TheNuzziNuzz]

6 minutes ago, Armakar said:

I made a thread a while back about an EVOC laptop on amazon that was hundreds of pounds underpriced.

 

Since then, I haven't heard back from amazon since reporting it.

 

I have now found this laptop on Amazon, an EVOC laptop (https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVOC-P650HS-AUK6-G-SYNC-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B01N9S802T/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1486042199&sr=8-7&keywords=i7+7700hq+1070), hundreds of pounds underpriced. I find it hard to believe it's a scam. They have 90 reviews, mostly positive, and Amazon is one of the most, if not the most trusted ecommerce.

 

I have email confirmation from Amazon saying if the product is fake or doesn't arrive, i'm entitled to my money back..

 

So two  questions!

 

One, should I buy it?

 

Two, are EVOC laptops good? 

 

1. I would get it

 

2. Define "Good"

[Armakar]

1 minute ago, TheNuzziNuzz said:

1. I would get it

 

2. Define "Good"

Well performance is irrelevant as it's the same spec as every o ther laptop, by good I mean, reliable? built well? decent quality speakers, keyboard and mouse?

[pagani123]

I could be wrong, but I believe that manufacturer is a wholesale that sells to system builders and they are just trying to get rid of the left over or excess inventory.

[Pendragon]

37 minutes ago, Armakar said:

hundreds of pounds underpriced

How is it hundreds of pounds underpriced. It's 2k. That's the average price. 

 

14 minutes ago, Maybach123 said:

I could be wrong, but I believe that manufacturer is a wholesale that sells to system builders and they are just trying to get rid of the left over or excess inventory.

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You are wrong. Manufactuer is a ODM that sells to retailers. The NA retailer (Sager) sells to system builders like HID, which rebrands their own gaming lineup as EVOC. It is not left over or excess inventory, it's new. 

[Visordo]

10 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

You are wrong. Manufactuer is a ODM that sells to retailers. The NA retailer (Sager) sells to system builders like HID, which rebrands their own gaming lineup as EVOC. It is not left over or excess inventory, it's new. 

Yeeap!, this is basically a Sager NP8157, rebranded.
https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8157.html

 

Sager laptops are generally good, so this should be the same quality/reliability

[Pendragon]

3 minutes ago, Visordo said:

Yeeap!, this is basically a Sager NP8157, rebranded.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=989&lang=en 

[Armakar]

46 minutes ago, Maybach123 said:

I could be wrong, but I believe that manufacturer is a wholesale that sells to system builders and they are just trying to get rid of the left over or excess inventory.

Actually just got off the phone with the seller, turns out they said their amazon was hacked and they have no idea why laptops are on their product list.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, Armakar said:

Actually just got off the phone with the seller, turns out they said their amazon was hacked and they have no idea why laptops are on their product list.

Just buy it off here. https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/. Same laptops. 

[TheNuzziNuzz]

1 hour ago, Armakar said:

Well performance is irrelevant as it's the same spec as every o ther laptop, by good I mean, reliable? built well? decent quality speakers, keyboard and mouse?

 

Google a review.

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, Armakar said:

Well performance is irrelevant as it's the same spec as every o ther laptop, by good I mean, reliable? built well? decent quality speakers, keyboard and mouse?

LOL no. Performance is a big difference on various laptops. So like a Razer Blade vs a P650HP6 is vastly difference because the Razer will throttle to shit, and the Clevo won't. And also because inbuilt Pascal vbios has the GPU throttling at like 55C or something stupid, sets a poor TDP limit on the card and limits how far it will boost so hard. Whereas on a custom vbios, TDP limits gone, throttling temp moved up to like 85C and so you can push it harder with more voltage and it'll clock higher too.