GTX 1050 or RX 480

[Nicolas8050]

I'm planing to build a budget PC. I'll be playing games on it so I'd like to get a decent graphics card. I have a budget of max $200 for the graphics card. Im planning to use a fx 6300 or 8350. I dont know which is better the 1050 or the rx480. If there is a better card please tell me, this will be my first build ever. I also plan to use a asus 970 motherboard, if there is a better or cheaper mb for around the same price of $80 let me know.

These are the two I'm comparing:

rx 480: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL012617&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012617-_-EMC-012617-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14137049-S0A&ignorebbr=1

gtx 1050: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487294

Edited January 27, 2017 by Nicolas8050

[Herman Mcpootis]

What's your budget for the entire rig? 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Also, rx 480 is obviously far better(even the 470 is miles better than the 1050).

[Phentos]

RX 480 4GB is the absolute best you can get for that budget. 

 

The 480 competes evenly with the GTX 1060, so it will wipe the floor with a regular 1050.

[Nicolas8050]

12 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

What's your budget for the entire rig? 

$500-600

I'm going to turn 16 in March, so I'm going to ask my parents for computer parts. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

30 minutes ago, Nicolas8050 said:

$500-600

I'm going to turn 16 in March, so I'm going to ask my parents for computer parts. 

Are you getting it on your birthday at march or in a week or two? AMD Ryzen cpus should be released by march, so i'd ask again nearer to your birthday if you're getting it then.

[Deli]

Can't believe you put these two GPUs together. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a VW Beetle.

[lettuce head]

2 hours ago, Phentos said:

RX 480 4GB is the absolute best you can get for that budget. 

 

The 480 competes evenly with the GTX 1060, so it will wipe the floor with a regular 1050.

pretty spot on there. however, if you plan on going hard on the gaming at 1080p and plan on keeping the gpu for more than a year or two, id recommend looking at the 8gb rx 480's. either way, the rx480 is a fantastic card and it's an incredible value. Plus it should age better than a gtx 1060 6gb, given that dx12 and vulkan are gaining popularity and amd scales better in those game engines by a bit.

 

13 minutes ago, Deli said:

Can't believe you put these two GPUs together. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a VW Beetle.

maybe not a Ferrari. but definitely like a Genesis coupe lol, fast as fuck for the money.

[Nena Trinity]

480 is way better than even 1050Ti and equal to 1060...

[Nicolas8050]

6 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

Are you getting it on your birthday at march or in a week or two? AMD Ryzen cpus should be released by march, so i'd ask again nearer to your birthday if you're getting it then.

That sounds like a good idea, but those will require a am4 motherboard and will be more expensive. I think I will be fine with the fx 8350. Is that a good cpu, what about the fx 6300, is it worth it to get the 8350? Whats the difference for value?

[Guest]

Why are you comparing the GTX 1050 with the RX 480? They are in different price segments. 1050 is 100$, 480 is 200$.

[Nicolas8050]

4 minutes ago, FTL said:

Why are you comparing the GTX 1050 with the RX 480? They are in different price segments. 1050 is 100$, 480 is 200$.

I added links to my question above. The two I'm comparing are similarly priced.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Nicolas8050 said:

I added links to my question above. The two I'm comparing are similarly priced.

Then get the RX 480 since it will be at least 50% (mostly 70 - 100%, especially in games that use more than 2GB) faster than the 1050.

[Nicolas8050]

2 minutes ago, FTL said:

Then get the RX 480 since it will be at least 50% (mostly 70 - 100%, especially in games that use more than 2GB) faster than the 1050.

Are you saying the price is 50%? The only reason I was comparing these was because of the sale.

[Guest]

Just now, Nicolas8050 said:

Are you saying the price is 50%? The only reason I was comparing these was because of the sale.

No I was talking about performance (fps in games).

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 hour ago, Nicolas8050 said:

That sounds like a good idea, but those will require a am4 motherboard and will be more expensive. I think I will be fine with the fx 8350. Is that a good cpu, what about the fx 6300, is it worth it to get the 8350? Whats the difference for value?

the fx8350 isn't a very good cpu, even when it was just released. trades blows with an i3 6100 in games(which means the $75 G4560 will be a better value as it performs similarly) but has no upgradibility whatsoever(at the most a faster fx8xxx) eats much more power and releases much more heat. your $600 budget is enough for an i5 6400 if it's just the pc only, i'd go for that instead.

[Nicolas8050]

16 minutes ago, FTL said:

No I was talking about performance (fps in games).

Oh really, that's a huge difference.

[Herman Mcpootis]

17 minutes ago, Nicolas8050 said:

Are you saying the price is 50%? The only reason I was comparing these was because of the sale.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/27.html the 480 is around 60-65% better now with the newest drivers.

[Nicolas8050]

46 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

the fx8350 isn't a very good cpu, even when it was just released. trades blows with an i3 6100 in games(which means the $75 G4560 will be a better value as it performs similarly) but has no upgradibility whatsoever(at the most a faster fx8xxx) eats much more power and releases much more heat. your $600 budget is enough for an i5 6400 if it's just the pc only, i'd go for that instead.

How about a a10 7890k? I'd prefer to go amd. I was planning to use a Asus 970 motherboard. If I get the i5 I'll need to get a Intel board.

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Nicolas8050 said:

How about a a10 7890k? I'd prefer to go amd. I was planning to use a Asus 970 motherboard. If I get the i5 I'll need to get a Intel board.

the 7890k would be worse, trades blows with a g3258. just wait for zen if you wanna go AMD or just get an rx 480, AMD's entire lineup isn't worth it ATM. Zen will likely change that once it arrives.

[Phate.exe]

Remember and repeat after me:

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

For the price of a 1050ti, an RX 470 stomps the hell out of it for anyone with an actual power supply.  An RX 480 is faster than that.

 

 

 

The 1050 series is a specialized product, designed to offer solid 1080p gaming performance in systems that can't power most GPU's.  Drop one into an old i5/i7 optiplex workstation with some extra ram, or even just into a regular cheap desktop, and you can get a surprisingly good gaming experience.  It's genuinely impressive the level of performance achieved without external power.

That said, It makes pretty much no sense to use one in a machine you're building yourself.

[Nicolas8050]

1 hour ago, Phate.exe said:

Remember and repeat after me:

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

The only reason to buy a GTX 1050 or 1050ti is because you do not have GPU power connectors coming from your power supply.

 

For the price of a 1050ti, an RX 470 stomps the hell out of it for anyone with an actual power supply.  An RX 480 is faster than that.

 

 

 

The 1050 series is a specialized product, designed to offer solid 1080p gaming performance in systems that can't power most GPU's.  Drop one into an old i5/i7 optiplex workstation with some extra ram, or even just into a regular cheap desktop, and you can get a surprisingly good gaming experience.  It's genuinely impressive the level of performance achieved without external power.

That said, It makes pretty much no sense to use one in a machine you're building yourself.

Which power supplys have the connect for the GPU? Is there a name for the connecter? Can you recommend a nice power supply that isn't too expensive, around $35.

[Phate.exe]

28 minutes ago, Nicolas8050 said:

Which power supplys have the connect for the GPU? Is there a name for the connecter? Can you recommend a nice power supply that isn't too expensive, around $35.

Basically any power supply.  The connections you are looking for are PCI-E 6 pin, PCI-E 8 pin, or PCI-E 6+2 pin connectors.

 

I'm not super-knowledgable on power supplies, but pretty much any power supply made by Seasonic is going to be good.  You also can't go too wrong with EVGA's power supplies.  Avoid getting something stupidly cheap, as those can be genuinely unsafe when they fail - component damage is likely, and fire hazards are possible as well.  A few companies have power supply calculators on their websites, where you can enter your components and it will recommend you an output wattage to feed your system.

 

Find your target wattage, go a bit higher than that for breathing room, then go on pcpartpicker and search for power supplies around that range.  Find something in your price range, and do some googling for in-depth reviews/testing on that particular model.

 

One place you can save money without giving up performance and quality are modular ($$$) vs semi modular ($$) vs nonmodular ($) cables. Modular cables use plugs to separate from the power supply, allowing you to only run the cables you're actually using for a much tidier case.  Semi-modular just means your main motherboard power is permanently attached to the power supply, but other accessory connections are removable.  Nonmodular are all attached to the power supply directly.  Once everything is hooked up, it really doesn't make any difference functionally.

 

Another is efficiency rating.  Going with an 80 plus or 80 plus bronze rated power supply can save you a good bit of money compared to getting an 80 plus gold or platinum rated PSU.  It'll suck down more electricity and might run warmer, but it's got a fan for that and computers really don't use much juice nowadays anyhow.

[Nicolas8050]

4 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

the fx8350 isn't a very good cpu, even when it was just released. trades blows with an i3 6100 in games(which means the $75 G4560 will be a better value as it performs similarly) but has no upgradibility whatsoever(at the most a faster fx8xxx) eats much more power and releases much more heat. your $600 budget is enough for an i5 6400 if it's just the pc only, i'd go for that instead.

Which motherboards would you recommend for the Intel CPU. I'm looking at these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-130-886

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-130-900

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-132-573

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-157-635

I'm looking at these because they're pary of some combos. If there's any better mb for this same price range of around $100.

[Nena Trinity]

8 hours ago, Nicolas8050 said:

That sounds like a good idea, but those will require a am4 motherboard and will be more expensive. I think I will be fine with the fx 8350. Is that a good cpu, what about the fx 6300, is it worth it to get the 8350? Whats the difference for value?

FX-6350 is the minimum for a RX 480! ((8350 is good for heavy titles such as BF1 & any other game that can use more than just 4-cores)) tough it might be better to wait for Ryzen to come out so Intel CPUs prices drops or you might want Ryzen itself?