First Intel PC Build

[CallMeMysterious]

I have recently gotten my first job at a local fast food joint, and I would like to start planning out my next build.

So far this is what I have in mind: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mR4Knn

- i5 4590

- XFX RX 470 Triple X OC 

- 16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 1600mhz ram (owned)

- Gigabyte B85M-D3SH

- Cryorig C7 cooler

- 1tb Western Digital Blue 7200rpm (owned)

- 120gb SanDisk SSD (owned)

- Corsair Carbide 88R

- EVGA 600 watt bronze (owned)

I can salvage a lot of parts from my current system (one my dad gave me) so that can cut down costs too. If I were to buy everything new (except an OS, I can transfer the license) it would cost about $800

With the parts I have already, (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rvZkqk) it costs around $500. Not bad in my opinion. I could ditch the Cryorig C7 since I won't be doing overlcocking, but I don't know. 

Or should I just upgrade my current system (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZ2tkT)

- FX 6300 OC'd to 4.0ghz

- Zalman CNPS8000B cooler

- GTX 750 Ti FTW 

- 16gb Crucial Ballistix

- Asus M5A78L-M/USB3

- 120gb SanDisk SSD

- 1tb WD Blue 7200rpm

- EVGA 600B PSU

- No name generic case

 

But my old system (FX one) is slowing down a lot, especially noticeable as framedrops in games. I'm not sure if that's the GPU or CPU bottle necking the system. 

I play a few AAA games, like Black Ops 3 and Battlefield 1 and Dying Light but I also have my fare share of casual games like Rocket League, L4D2, CS:GO, and Warframe (not really casual but easier on hardware than AAA games)

I get around 55-70fps low on Battlefield 1 and Black Ops 3. In the other games, I can max out settings and get a good 60+. But there are frame drops. 

So is it time for a new system all together or for a new GPU? NOTE: resetting my PC did help a bit with frame drops, now they occur about half as often. 

 

 

**EDIT 1**

So far, drop a case and cooler, go down to H81M, and get a 4gb RX 480

Savings: around $80ish

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

drop the C7 and get an rx 480 red dragon, the stock cooler is enough for the 4590.

[CallMeMysterious]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

drop the C7 and get an rx 480 red dragon, the stock cooler is enough for the 4590.

I've done some research, and I don't see a tangible benefit from upgrading to a RX 480. Especially with the games I'd be playing. I would however get the $200ish XFX RX 480 RS 4gb if I had the money

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, CallMeMysterious said:

I've done some research, and I don't see a tangible benefit from upgrading to a RX 480. Especially with the games I'd be playing. I would however get the $200ish XFX RX 480 RS 4gb if I had the money

the rx 480 would be 20% better in performance compared to the rx 470.

[CallMeMysterious]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

the rx 480 would be 20% better in performance compared to the rx 470, 

I'm not gonna deny that, but I really don't have the money

I know I could work a bit longer, but my current PC is degrading. I would ideally like a solution do said degradation or a new PC ASAP

[Zyndo]

Just now, CallMeMysterious said:

I'm not gonna deny that, but I really don't have the money

But you do have the money... you're spending it on other less important places in your system.

[CallMeMysterious]

Just now, Zyndo said:

But you do have the money... you're spending it on other less important places in your system.

What other things could I get rid of?  I

know I could work a bit longer, but my current PC is degrading. I would ideally like a solution do said degradation or a new PC ASAP

[CallMeMysterious]

1 minute ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Wait why the C7?

It's a cheap cooler and a good one

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, CallMeMysterious said:

I'm not gonna deny that, but I really don't have the money

than why did you get a C7 instead of the stock cooler? dropping it and getting the 480 would save you around $7-9 bucks.

[CallMeMysterious]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

than why did you get a C7 instead of the stock cooler? dropping it and getting the 480 would save you around $7-9 bucks.

good point. That would work

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, CallMeMysterious said:

It's a cheap cooler and a good one

its meant for small form factor cases, not big towers like these. you don't need it too, the stock cooler is good enough.

[Zyndo]

4 minutes ago, CallMeMysterious said:

What other things could I get rid of?  I

know I could work a bit longer, but my current PC is degrading. I would ideally like a solution do said degradation or a new PC ASAP

@herman mcpootis already told you how: don't get an aftermarket CPU cooler. use the stock cooler. that gives you an extra 30-40 bucks to play around with. easily enough to step up to a 480 4GB of your choice.

 

You can always buy the C7 (or some other cooler) down the road in a month or two or whenever you have the money. its cheap and easy to throw a CPU cooler in afterwards, whereas upgrading a GPU tends to be quite a bit more expensive as you usually lose a bit of money on the resale value of the old GPU.

[CallMeMysterious]

So far, this is what the build is going to look like. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8XJsM8

I could even ditch the Carbide case and save another 50 bucks. Sure my current case is a POS, but it can fit a Micro ATX motherboard

without the case, it costs about $470

[CallMeMysterious]

2 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

@herman mcpootis already told you how: don't get an aftermarket CPU cooler. use the stock cooler. that gives you an extra 30-40 bucks to play around with. easily enough to step up to a 480 4GB of your choice.

 

You can always buy the C7 down the road in a month or two or whenever you have the money. its cheap and easy to throw a CPU cooler in afterwards, whereas upgrading a GPU tends to be quite a bit more expensive as you usually lose a bit of money on the resale value of the old GPU.

So should I build new and spend $470 or save another $200 and just get a new GPU?

**EDIT** I believe there is a limit on hardware changes in origin though, so maybe just build new

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, CallMeMysterious said:

So should I build new and spend $470 or save another $200 and just get a new GPU?

if you have the money i'd say get the i5 and 480, the fx6300 isn't good for games anymore and the i5 will do much better. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($174.59 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($52.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($191.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: DIYPC J180-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) pretty good case for the money.
Total: $459.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-05 20:50 EST-0500

[CallMeMysterious]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($174.59 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($52.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($191.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: DIYPC J180-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) pretty good case for the money.
Total: $459.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-05 20:50 EST-0500

This is personal preference, but I would drop the case, and since my current case has USB 2.0 front, I could even go H81M. 

I would like to keep the i5 4590 and I saw the popular youtuber JayzTwoCents make a video on how the 8gb model of the XFX RX 480 was by far the best one he tested so I would go with the 4gb model, worth the $10 more

**EDIT** Here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvD62R

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, CallMeMysterious said:

This is personal preference, but I would drop the case, and since my current case has USB 2.0 front, I could even go H81M. 

I would like to keep the i5 4590 and I saw the popular youtuber JayzTwoCents make a video on how the 8gb model of the XFX RX 480 was by far the best one he tested so I would go with the 4gb model, worth the $10 more

the XFX rx 480 jay reviewed was the GTR variant, not the RS. they're quite different in terms of performance IIRC. you won't notice much of a difference between the 2 i5s, so i'd recommend you go for the cheaper 4460.

[ElZamo92]

1 minute ago, CallMeMysterious said:

This is personal preference, but I would drop the case, and since my current case has USB 2.0 front, I could even go H81M. 

I would like to keep the i5 4590 and I saw the popular youtuber JayzTwoCents make a video on how the 8gb model of the XFX RX 480 was by far the best one he tested so I would go with the 4gb model, worth the $10 more

The amazing one that Jay tested was the XFX RX480 GTR, not the one you put in your list. Just a heads up. 

[CallMeMysterious]

Just now, ElZamo92 said:

The amazing one that Jay tested was the XFX RX480 GTR, not the one you put in your list. Just a heads up. 

Yeah, but it has the same cooler. As far as I'm aware, heat was the main problem for most RX 480's. 

[WkdPaul]

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