CPU crossroads

[mark_smith85]

Mid way through purchasing all the parts for a new rig I currently don't have any form of gaming PC.

 

I've been waiting for 7700k Z270 and 1080ti but I am tempted to see what Zen and how well AMD new GPUs perform.

 

As ref parts currently have

 

Nzxt h400 case

Nzxt x62 AIO

16GB DDR4 Ram

SSD - data

850w Corsair PSU

 

Any advice you can offer me?

[Techicolors]

are you willing to wait for ryzen? or vega? these still have as much as a release date as GT Sport

[Electronics Wizardy]

Id go for the 7700k, amd won't beat it in single threaded.

 

 

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, mark_smith85 said:

Mid way through purchasing all the parts for a new rig I currently don't have any form of gaming PC.

 

I've been waiting for 7700k Z270 and 1080ti but I am tempted to see what Zen and how well AMD new GPUs perform.

 

As ref parts currently have

 

Nzxt h400 case

Nzxt x62 AIO

16GB DDR4 Ram

SSD - data

850w Corsair PSU

 

Any advice you can offer me?

7700K is the last quad core to be top doge on the mainstream platform. its made for epeen and for intel to cash in as much as poosible before they get train rekted when ryzen 8 cores destroy it on price  

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

7700K is the last quad core to be top doge on the mainstream platform. its made for epeen and for intel to cash in as much as poosible before they get train rekted when ryzen 8 cores destroy it on price  

amd isn't going to destroy intel.

[m0k]

if you can wait... then wait and compare your options

 

if you cant wait. and need to get a pc LIKE RITE NOW or risk spontaneously combusting. then just go intel

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

7700K is the last quad core to be top doge on the mainstream platform. its made for epeen and for intel to cash in as much as poosible before they get train rekted when ryzen 8 cores destroy it on price  

It's funny, cause you act like you're from the future and know how a product that doesn't exist performs!

[Techicolors]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

amd isn't going to destroy intel.

how would you know that? it isn't even out yet... 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Technicolors said:

how would you know that? it isn't even out yet... 

look at the tests they showed. It was competive with current intel parts, not better.

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It's funny, cause you act like you're from the future and know how a product that doesn't exist performs!

yeah its almost like i have one. 

[Techicolors]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

look at the tests they showed. It was competive with current intel parts, not better.

those numbers don't mean very much. wait until the chips actually get sold and reviewed and benched

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It's funny, cause you act like you're from the future and know how a product that doesn't exist performs!

oh it defiantly exists, just not pulically. Also with simulations, we basically know how fast cpu's and gpu's will be for the next 5 ish years.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

those numbers don't mean very much. wait until the chips actually get sold and reviewed and benched

But those were best case situations, so don't expect it to be any faster.

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

yeah its almost like i have one. 

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

oh it defiantly exists, just not pulically. Also with simulations, we basically know how fast cpu's and gpu's will be for the next 5 ish years.

No it does not exist for consumers or reviewers currently, there are 0 in circulation.

It's supposed to be released this year, it has not been released yet so for all intensive purpouses it does not exist.

[Techicolors]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

But those were best case situations, so don't expect it to be any faster.

the results could very well be cherry-picked. expect anything as soon as ryzen is sold to consumers 

[Jumper118]

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

No it does not exist for consumers or reviewers currently, there are 0 in circulation.

It's supposed to be released this year, it has not been released yet so for all intensive purpouses it does not exist.

good job i'm not either of those. someone has to test those motherboard bios you know. you dont make a motherboard and then release it with no cpus! 

 

Also i am pretty sure 1 reviewer is helping asus do so work on there boards. 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

good job i'm not either of those. someone has to test those motherboard bios you know. you dont make a motherboard and then release it with no cpus! 

 

Also i am pretty sure 1 reviewer is helping asus do so work on there boards. 

That's not called a reviewer, that's called an electrical engineer. And they do not make reviews, they build circuits and firmware.

[Jumper118]

Just now, Enderman said:

That's not called a reviewer, that's called an electrical engineer. And they do not make reviews, they build circuits and firmware.

i'm pretty sure they are allowed to write reviews as well. 

[Enderman]

7 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

i'm pretty sure they are allowed to write reviews as well. 

Not with an NDA. Also, go try to find one reviewer that is an electrical engineer that works on designing motherboards, you won't find one.

Being a reviewer is one job, being an electrical engineer is another.

If you have time to do both then you must be special.

 

Either way, no you do not own a ryzen CPU, no you do not know its price, and no you do not know its performance, so please stop trying to derail the thread.

[Jumper118]

4 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Not with an NDA. Also, go try to find one reviewer that is an electrical engineer that works on designing motherboards, you won't find one.

Being a reviewer is one job, being an electrical engineer is another.

If you have time to do both then you must be special.

 

Either way, no you do not own a ryzen CPU, no you do not know its price, and no you do not know its performance, so please stop trying to derail the thread.

he hasnt published anything about ryzen yet cos nda obviously. and amd own the engineering sample cpu's there are no retail cpu or even final stepping cpu yet. the boost is different on every stepping. some dont even boost at all. 

[mark_smith85]

Thanks for the input so far, for me on the CPU it's the single core performance that may decide what I go for...

 

What I am after is something that can handle 4k or possibly ultra wide at 60fps or close enough to it.

 

I have seen the AMD benchmarks showing their GPUs can reach this on certain titles but I am hoping if the 1080ti that will supply enough grunt for what I want.

 

I think cut off date for me is late Feb so will have to go for what's out then, been saving for about a year now for this PC can only wait so long.

 

Does anybody now with AMD stuff will be released by then?

[mark_smith85]

Ah just found 7700k and Z270 MBs online at scan.co.uk so took the plunge and ordered them.

 

Just waiting for 1080ti now....