What should I do ?

[johnanthony1x]

I currently have EVGA GTX 970 gpu. I want to upgrade but not sure what to upgrade to. I was considering a 1060, 1070, or 1080. Im just not sure if it is good to buy a 1060 (now currently probably the same price I bought 970 at) or I should save up to buy a 1070. I want good gaming (Not super or the "Best"). Probably leaning a little towards cost effective. The primary use of the gpu will be gaming. Games on high settings that I play: Rainbow 6, battlefield, and subnautica,

 

[App4that]

Wait until Vega launches. You can either get Vega or a cheaper Pascal card when the prices drop.

[3 Lions]

Upgrade to the 1070 as it make more sense because you're already on a '70' GPU. 

[johnanthony1x]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

Wait until Vega launches. You can either get Vega or a cheaper Pascal card when the prices drop.

Thanks im not an amd guy tho

[App4that]

Just now, johnanthony1x said:

Thanks im not an amd guy tho

No reason to be a guy of anything. Huge mistake to go based off brand alone. 

[johnanthony1x]

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Upgrade to the 1070 as it make more sense because you're already on a '70' GPU. 

I dont see how thats important. but thanks for the imput  

[3 Lions]

Just now, johnanthony1x said:

I dont see how thats important. but thanks for the imput  

Well if you go with the 1060 you get less CUDA Cores than the 970 you already have and the 1060 is classed as 'Mid-Range' while your 970 is classed as 'High-End'. If you go with the 1070 you get more CUDA Cores than your 970 and is in the same class. 

[johnanthony1x]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Well if you go with the 1060 you get less CUDA Cores than the 970 you already have and the 1060 is classed as 'Mid-Range' while your 970 is classed as 'High-End'. If you go with the 1070 you get more CUDA Cores than your 970 and is in the same class. 

ohhhh okay. thank you  

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Well if you go with the 1060 you get less CUDA Cores than the 970 you already have and the 1060 is classed as 'Mid-Range' while your 970 is classed as 'High-End'. If you go with the 1070 you get more CUDA Cores than your 970 and is in the same class. 

A 1060 is at 980 level. You don't compare gaming experience with CUDA cores.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

A 1060 is at 980 level. You don't compare gaming experience with CUDA cores.

This^

 

CUDA core count does not translate between architectures. 

[3 Lions]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

A 1060 is at 980 level. You don't compare gaming experience with CUDA cores.

Yeah I know but it's still classed as 'Mid-Range' it wouldn't make no sense to upgrade from a GPU that was classed as 'High-End' to a GPU that is classed as 'Mid-Range'. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Yeah I know but it's still classed as 'Mid-Range' it wouldn't make no sense to upgrade from a GPU that was classed as 'High-End' to a GPU that is classed as 'Mid-Range'. 

Ok... it's like saying I would not upgrade an FX 8350 with same clock (4.0 GHz) to an i7 6700k to get less cores

[App4that]

4 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Yeah I know but it's still classed as 'Mid-Range' it wouldn't make no sense to upgrade from a GPU that was classed as 'High-End' to a GPU that is classed as 'Mid-Range'. 

LOL a 970 is not high end. It's midrange. As is the 1070. We just haven't seen the high end from AMD or Nvidia yet so it throws things off. 

[3 Lions]

8 minutes ago, App4that said:

LOL a 970 is not high end. It's midrange. As is the 1070. We just haven't seen the high end from AMD or Nvidia yet so it throws things off. 

Mid-range	GeForce GTX 950M GeForce GTX 950 GeForce GTX 960M GeForce GTX 960 GeForce GTX 965M
High-end	GeForce GTX 970M GeForce GTX 970 GeForce GTX 980M GeForce GTX 980
Enthusiast	GeForce GTX 980 "Notebook" GeForce GTX 980 Ti GeForce GTX Titan X

 

 

Entry-level	GeForce GTX 1050 GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Mid-range	GeForce GTX 1060 (3GB/6GB)
High-end	GeForce GTX 1070 GeForce GTX 1080
Enthusiast	NVIDIA TITAN X

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Mid-range	GeForce GTX 950M GeForce GTX 950 GeForce GTX 960M GeForce GTX 960 GeForce GTX 965M
High-end	GeForce GTX 970M GeForce GTX 970 GeForce GTX 980M GeForce GTX 980
Enthusiast	GeForce GTX 980 "Notebook" GeForce GTX 980 Ti GeForce GTX Titan X

That' is a horrible list and it should feel bad. A 960m is a 750ti. Great little GPU, I've got one. But come on. 

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

That' is a horrible list and it should feel bad

Why, this is true information. 

[App4that]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Why, this is true information. 

No it's not. You base a cards standing by the resolution it can hold 60fps at. The 970 can't do that at 1080p, makes it a lower end card. 

[3 Lions]

6 minutes ago, App4that said:

No it's not. You base a cards standing by the resolution it can hold 60fps at. The 970 can't do that at 1080p, makes it a lower end card. 

Yes it is, 

 

50 Cards are classed as entry-level 

50Ti Cards are classed as entry-level

60 Cards are classed as mid-range

70 Cards are classed as high-end

80 Cards are classed as high-end

80Ti Cards are classed as enthusiast 

Titan Cards are classed as enthusiast

 

 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

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No.

 

You base a cards standing based off performance, not a tag on the box. The 970 was a mid range card, now it's a lower end card. My 980ti was a high end card, now is a mid range card. Such is the circle of tech Simba. 

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

No.

 

You base a cards standing based off performance, not a tag on the box. The 970 was a mid range card, now it's a lower end card. My 980ti was a high end card, now is a mid range card. Such is the circle of tech Simba. 

It doesn't matter if they are old and beaten by newer GPU'S they still are classed the same. 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

It doesn't matter if they are old and beaten by newer GPU'S they still are classed the same. 

No...

 

Try selling a 780ti as a high end card. Give it a shot. Computer parts are like cars, they are classified by their performance not the manufacturer. Chevy can't call a Sonic a sports car and be take seriously, or better yet a truck. Chevy can put any label they want on the Sonic, it's their car. Doesn't change the reality of the Sonic's performance. 

[SteveGrabowski0]

If you're on a 1080p 60 Hz monitor there is no reason to upgrade yet from the 970. I have a 970 myself, one completely incapable of any overclock, and it's still awesome for graphically intense AAA games like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex Mankind Divided. And especially Battlefield 1, I was pulling mostly 75 fps on the open beta at 1080p ultra and my worst dips were into the low 60s. I mean I would never buy a 970 today given the existence of the slightly more powerful RX 480 and GTX 1060, but it's still a high quality 1080p gaming card if you already have it. I so badly wanted a 1070 or 1080 when I saw them launch and saw how huge the gains in performance were, but my 970 does such a great job still I had to slap myself and ask if it was worth it to spend $400-$600 just to change a couple of settings from high to ultra and to have high benchmark numbers. Meh, I'd rather put that money into gaming instead of new and unneeded hardware.