Buying my First Gaming PC

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 hours ago, iiEmpathy said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/iiEmpathy/saved/vMWrHx Updated list, please check if its all able to be put together and ran properly. I'm using a monitor I have now so dont worry about that

 

Does the DDR4-2133 motherboard support the DDR4-2400 memory?

 

 

Change ths psu to an xfx ts, everything else is fine.

[iiEmpathy]

8 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

Change ths psu to an xfx ts, everything else is fine.

Whats wrong with the one I have now?

[iiEmpathy]

8 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

Change ths psu to an xfx ts, everything else is fine.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/iiEmpathy/saved/vMWrHx Better?

[aithos]

A lot of people have already said this but I'll chime in too: don't buy a "pre-built" machine. 

There are only two situations where you should be buying something pre-built instead of components:

1) You want a laptop.  It still isn't reasonable to build a custom laptop, so if that's what you want you should just buy one.

2) You want an extremely low budget computer, something sub-$600 or so.  In that case it just isn't worth ordering components because you aren't going to save very much or increase the quality by a large enough margin to offset the time/trouble of doing it.

 

Otherwise... you should be building your own.  By the time you get to the $1000 mark you will get a MUCH better PC for your money if you buy components and build it yourself, and it is easy enough these days that virtually anyone can do it.  The only thing I still see people worry about is thermal paste with an aftermarket cooler and there are about a thousand videos on YouTube that will show you how to do it.

 

If you need help with parts I'm sure what people are posting is a good starting point, but here's a few things I personally like:

 

- Intel CPU - nothing against AMD but my concern is gaming performance and not heavily threaded applications, and Intel is better at running games.

- EVGA graphics card - these guys have been my go to for my last 6~ builds (a couple personal and a couple for friends/family).  They are rock solid and consistently overclock well, and their customer support is also good.

- Corsair ANYTHING - they flat out make some of the best products in virtually every category from Memory to PSU and their cases are a dream to build in.

- Samsung SSD - I used to buy Intel but the pro series won me over, they have consistently been top notch.

- Noctua Cooler/Fans - the u12s is the best small air cooler on the market and the big Noctua fans are whisper quiet, they are expensive but worth every penny.

- Asus MB - there are a lot of good MB brands (ASRock, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, etc) but I like the Asus Bios a lot and the audio on their ROG motherboards was one of the better ones I have seen (before I got a dedicated amp/dac).

 

Keep in mind: these are totally my opinions, you're welcome to have different ones.

[iiEmpathy]

1 hour ago, aithos said:

A lot of people have already said this but I'll chime in too: don't buy a "pre-built" machine. 

There are only two situations where you should be buying something pre-built instead of components:

1) You want a laptop.  It still isn't reasonable to build a custom laptop, so if that's what you want you should just buy one.

2) You want an extremely low budget computer, something sub-$600 or so.  In that case it just isn't worth ordering components because you aren't going to save very much or increase the quality by a large enough margin to offset the time/trouble of doing it.

 

Otherwise... you should be building your own.  By the time you get to the $1000 mark you will get a MUCH better PC for your money if you buy components and build it yourself, and it is easy enough these days that virtually anyone can do it.  The only thing I still see people worry about is thermal paste with an aftermarket cooler and there are about a thousand videos on YouTube that will show you how to do it.

 

If you need help with parts I'm sure what people are posting is a good starting point, but here's a few things I personally like:

 

- Intel CPU - nothing against AMD but my concern is gaming performance and not heavily threaded applications, and Intel is better at running games.

- EVGA graphics card - these guys have been my go to for my last 6~ builds (a couple personal and a couple for friends/family).  They are rock solid and consistently overclock well, and their customer support is also good.

- Corsair ANYTHING - they flat out make some of the best products in virtually every category from Memory to PSU and their cases are a dream to build in.

- Samsung SSD - I used to buy Intel but the pro series won me over, they have consistently been top notch.

- Noctua Cooler/Fans - the u12s is the best small air cooler on the market and the big Noctua fans are whisper quiet, they are expensive but worth every penny.

- Asus MB - there are a lot of good MB brands (ASRock, EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, etc) but I like the Asus Bios a lot and the audio on their ROG motherboards was one of the better ones I have seen (before I got a dedicated amp/dac).

 

Keep in mind: these are totally my opinions, you're welcome to have different ones.

 

Im buying the parts this guy will build it for me

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 hours ago, iiEmpathy said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/iiEmpathy/saved/vMWrHx Better?

Yes, but you don't need a 750w psu, a 550w unit will be fine.

[iiEmpathy]

3 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

Yes, but you don't need a 750w psu, a 550w unit will be fine.

The computer guy said 700w would be good, how about 650w?

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, iiEmpathy said:

The computer guy said 700w would be good, how about 650w?

also overkill, even a 450w psu will be more than enough for a gtx 1060 and i5. just get a cheap 550w TS(or any other tier 1-3 unit).

[iiEmpathy]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

also overkill, even a 450w psu will be more than enough for a gtx 1060 and i5. just get a cheap 550w TS(or any other tier 1-3 unit).

 

I might go with a 600w

[Herman Mcpootis]

which unit?

[iiEmpathy]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

which unit?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cfw323/corsair-power-supply-cx600

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, iiEmpathy said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Cfw323/corsair-power-supply-cx600

wattage isn't what you should be worrying about, it's the quality of the psu that can make or break(literally) your computer. the CX600 is a mediocre unit that can only provide its rated power at 30 degrees. IIRC australia is a pretty hot country, i'd avoid the cx600 since there are better units for cheaper.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/n48H99/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsuin3b550w

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36BD3/seasonic-power-supply-s12g450

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dYJkcf/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsued1b450w

all slightly cheaper or slightly more expensive but far better units in quality.

[iiEmpathy]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

wattage isn't what you should be worrying about, it's the quality of the psu that can make or break(literally) your computer. the CX600 is a mediocre unit that can only provide its rated power at 30 degrees. IIRC australia is a pretty hot country, i'd avoid the cx600 since there are better units for cheaper.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/n48H99/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsuin3b550w

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36BD3/seasonic-power-supply-s12g450

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dYJkcf/fractal-design-power-supply-fdpsued1b450w

all slightly cheaper or slightly more expensive but far better units in quality.

 

Any good PSU's that are 600w to 700w?

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, iiEmpathy said:

Any good PSU's that are 600w to 700w?

as i already told you, you don't need it. 

https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/ nvidia themselves have stated that a 400w psu is recommended for a 1060, a 600-700w psu is just wasting money especially given that you can't SLI the 1060.

[iiEmpathy]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

as i already told you, you don't need it. 

https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/ nvidia themselves have stated that a 400w psu is recommended for a 1060, a 600-700w psu is just wasting money especially given that you can't SLI the 1060.

 

Im just confused because originally I had a 500w and the computer dude down the road from me said I need a 700w.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, iiEmpathy said:

Im just confused because originally I had a 500w and the computer dude down the road from me said I need a 700w.

i'll advise not asking him for help anymore if he thinks you need a 700w psu for a 1060 6gb and i5 6500. even my r9 390(eats more than double the 1060 in electricity) run perfectly fine on a cheap 530w psu.

[iiEmpathy]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

i'll advise not asking him for help anymore if he thinks you need a 700w psu for a 1060 6gb and i5 6500. even my r9 390(eats more than double the 1060 in electricity) run perfectly fine on a cheap 530w psu.

 

Ill see if I can find one for 550w and then ill check with you to see if its decent

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, iiEmpathy said:

Ill see if I can find one for 550w and then ill check with you to see if its decent

if you're unsure, use this as a reference:

 

[FRN]

39 minutes ago, iiEmpathy said:

The computer guy said 700w would be good, how about 650w?

Of course that would be good (for them) because of sales. lol.

 

I have a 6600k and a gtx 1070, yet I have a 550w PSU.

[iiEmpathy]

6 minutes ago, FRN said:

Of course that would be good (for them) because of sales. lol.

 

I have a 6600k and a gtx 1070, yet I have a 550w PSU.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

if you're unsure, use this as a reference:

 

 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/V9bp99/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/694gXL/thermaltake-power-supply-sp550pcbus

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xNJwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020050ww

 

Which one is the best value and best quality.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, iiEmpathy said:

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/V9bp99/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/694gXL/thermaltake-power-supply-sp550pcbus

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xNJwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020050ww

 

Which one is the best value and best quality.

...

just get the integra M.

[iiEmpathy]

5 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

...

just get the integra M.

 

This is the original one, stick with it? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, iiEmpathy said:

This is the original one, stick with it? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

that works too.

[iiEmpathy]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

that works too.

 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w is 550w

and 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/V9bp99/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr is 600w 

 

Both are same price, why is that? and which one should I go for.

 

 

[FRN]

4 minutes ago, iiEmpathy said:

 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w is 550w

and 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/V9bp99/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr is 600w 

 

Both are same price, why is that? and which one should I go for.

 

 

See which one offers the longer warranty.