Ugh... AMD GPU Help :/

[SlacinAce]

Yaas, well, very much.

 

So far, my budget build includes an i3-6100, and a Gigabyte GA h170 Gaming 3 mobo, and a GTX 1050 Ti SC (Yes, everything else is sorted out)

 

Pretty 'OK' build so far? Well... As you can see, the Gigabyte h170 mobo is, in fact, a crossfire board. Now I don't know the side of AMD very well, all I know is it's not nvidia and it's not sli. But I kind of feel like it's no use, as not many games are as optimized/supported by crossfire (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

Is it actually a good reason to choose an AMD card, then later upgrade to dual? Or is the gain not enough, should I just stick with an nvidia card.

If the choice is to go AMD gpu, what is a good crossfire ready card? My budget for the GPU is less than 150

 

Thank you! Any help is appreciated!

[GDRRiley]

go with a lower ended board and get a rx470 is is faster than a 1050ti 

[tahmidkhan123]

2 minutes ago, SlacinAce said:

Yaas, well, very much.

 

So far, my budget build includes an i3-6100, and a Gigabyte GA h170 Gaming 3 mobo, and a GTX 1050 Ti SC (Yes, everything else is sorted out)

 

Pretty 'OK' build so far? Well... As you can see, the Gigabyte h170 mobo is, in fact, a crossfire board. Now I don't know the side of AMD very well, all I know is it's not nvidia and it's not sli. But I kind of feel like it's no use, as not many games are as optimized/supported by crossfire (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

Is it actually a good reason to choose an AMD card, then later upgrade to dual? Or is the gain not enough, should I just stick with an nvidia card.

If the choice is to go AMD gpu, what is a good crossfire ready card? My budget for the GPU is less than 150

 

Thank you! Any help is appreciated!

generally, crossfire and sli should be avoided. It's best to just buy a better graphics card than two lesser graphics cards. Only when you get to the top tier cards, gtx 1080, rx480,  titan x etc. does it make sense to add another one if you really want that extra performance. My advice is to go for something like an rx470, similar to your card's price but better in almost all games. 

[JefferyD90]

9 minutes ago, SlacinAce said:

Yaas, well, very much.

 

So far, my budget build includes an i3-6100, and a Gigabyte GA h170 Gaming 3 mobo, and a GTX 1050 Ti SC (Yes, everything else is sorted out)

 

Pretty 'OK' build so far? Well... As you can see, the Gigabyte h170 mobo is, in fact, a crossfire board. Now I don't know the side of AMD very well, all I know is it's not nvidia and it's not sli. But I kind of feel like it's no use, as not many games are as optimized/supported by crossfire (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

Is it actually a good reason to choose an AMD card, then later upgrade to dual? Or is the gain not enough, should I just stick with an nvidia card.

If the choice is to go AMD gpu, what is a good crossfire ready card? My budget for the GPU is less than 150

 

Thank you! Any help is appreciated!

First and formost... it is NEVER a good idea to do any multi GPU setup... period.

 

But if you must, don't do it with low end cards.  Even with the RX 460-470 or the GTX 1050Ti...  You should just go ahead and get a RX480 or GTX 1060 and call it a day.  You'll get 30% better performance across ALL titles without any compromises or other concerns.

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, tahmidkhan123 said:

generally, crossfire and sli should be avoided. It's best to just buy a better graphics card than two lesser graphics cards. Only when you get to the top tier cards, gtx 1080, rx480,  titan x etc. does it make sense to add another one if you really want that extra performance. My advice is to go for something like an rx470, similar to your card's price but better in almost all games. 

470 and 480 are very close to each other. No reason to avoid crossfiring 470's. Only thing to keep in mind is you want to crossfire the same models so To pick out one you know you can match.

 

2 RX 480s get close to Pascal Titan X Firestrike scores these days with the improvement in drivers. 

[App4that]

2 minutes ago, JefferyD90 said:

First and formost... it is NEVER a good idea to do any multi GPU setup... period.

Yeah, that's misinformation...

[JefferyD90]

12 minutes ago, App4that said:

Yeah, that's misinformation...

Its really not.  If there is a single GPU that performs the same, its almost always going to cost less and is ALWAYS going to feel better in the end.

[ARikozuM]

18 minutes ago, tahmidkhan123 said:

generally, crossfire and sli should be avoided. It's best to just buy a better graphics card than two lesser graphics cards. Only when you get to the top tier cards, gtx 1080, rx480,  titan x etc. does it make sense to add another one if you really want that extra performance. My advice is to go for something like an rx470, similar to your card's price but better in almost all games. 

Don't quote the OP if you one of the first to the page.

11 minutes ago, App4that said:

470 and 480 are very close to each other. No reason to avoid crossfiring 470's. Only thing to keep in mind is you want to crossfire the same models so To pick out one you know you can match.

 

2 RX 480s get close to Pascal Titan X Firestrike scores these days with the improvement in drivers. 

Don't quote the OP if you one of the first to the page.

 

26 minutes ago, SlacinAce said:

Is it actually a good reason to choose an AMD card, then later upgrade to dual?

Every little bit helps. If you can find a 470 4GB for 150, I'd say go for it and possibly get a 2nd if the PSU will support it.

[App4that]

20 minutes ago, JefferyD90 said:

Its really not.  If there is a single GPU that performs the same, its almost always going to cost less and is ALWAYS going to feel better in the end.

So two RX 480, that costs 400 bucks together,  beating a 1080 that at best costs 600 bucks. You overlook that, why?

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

So two RX 480, that costs 400 bucks together,  beating a 1080 that at best costs 600 bucks. You overlook that, why?

Not arguing, but where did you find $200 RX 480's?

[App4that]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

Not arguing, but where did you find $200 RX 480's?

New Egg has then all the time. Almost went with two rather than get a second 980ti. But ended up getting the 980ti because water cooling.

[stconquest]

i5 + RX 470, just the tower:

 

As cheap as possible, mostly.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 470 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case  ($25.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Silverstone FN121-P-WL 58.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.86 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Silverstone FN121-P-WL 58.5 CFM  120mm Fan  ($3.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $579.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-24 23:43 EST-0500

[JefferyD90]

18 hours ago, App4that said:

So two RX 480, that costs 400 bucks together,  beating a 1080 that at best costs 600 bucks. You overlook that, why?

Because it doesn't perform better than a 1080 on but like 3 benchmarks... Not every single game.

[App4that]

2 hours ago, JefferyD90 said:

Because it doesn't perform better than a 1080 on but like 3 benchmarks... Not every single game.

Actually, pretty much matches or smokes a 1080 in every game. You're going off YouTube videos, big mistake. They don't force SLI or Crossfire. Why? Because they're there to make money for their sponsors, not let people know they can get more for less. And with the 480 you can have 3 for the price of one 1080 and have Pascal Titan X performance. I do with two 980ti. 

[SlacinAce]

On 12/24/2016 at 9:39 PM, GDRRiley said:

go with a lower ended board and get a rx470 is is faster than a 1050ti 

The reason I chose this board is because bundled with the i3 6100, the h170 is 10 bucks more than the h110, so why not have more. Plus, it takes up the awkward space in my case, and has m.2 slots. Thank you for posting!

[SlacinAce]

On 12/24/2016 at 10:03 PM, ARikozuM said:

Every little bit helps. If you can find a 470 4GB for 150, I'd say go for it and possibly get a 2nd if the PSU will support it.

I think I might go with the unfamiliar 470  My nvidia dreams are gone, for now. Thank you for posting!

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, SlacinAce said:

I think I might go with the unfamiliar 470  My nvidia dreams are gone, for now. Thank you for posting!

What are you looking for on the green card?

[SlacinAce]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

What are you looking for on the green card?

If you mean nvidia by 'green card', I was just nudging how I'm a lot more inter nvidia cards rather than amd,

Thank you for posting!

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, SlacinAce said:

If you mean nvidia by 'green card', I was just nudging how I'm a lot more inter nvidia cards rather than amd,

Thank you for posting!

I see. I'm going to link you a review of the 1050 Ti cards, not to dissuade you from Nvidia, but to show that your best expense is in a better card for a similar price. The 470 is doing a bit better in some and does a lot better in most of the benchmarks.

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2658-gtx-1050-ti-and-1050-review-benchmarks-vs-460-more

[SlacinAce]

Well it seems now that the Gigabyte G1 GamingH170 Gaming 3's page description has changed... Now instead of "Supports 2 way graphics with AMD Crossfire technology", it says "2 way sli or 3 way crossfire"

 

So idk if it was driver updates or something, but it seems to now support Nvidia sli... Still not sure if I should just go with an amd card anyways, I want great performance for my money, around $150 USD

[ARikozuM]

It could be a BIOS update.