IPS vs TN

[Tbags]

Hello Everybody!

I just build a Powerful Pc these specs

1.I7 6700k

2.Asus 1060 Strix

3.Corsair 16 gb 3200Ram

Now to be honest i am a gammer and played throught my life first on heavy old large monitors and from 2013-2016 till today on an Lg 19 inch flat LCD having a resolution of 1280*1080

So i am wasting my pc specs i need to buy a new monitor and have a budget of 250 dollars . So problem is i google a lot about ips or Tn panel here is the problems

1. I play cs, so i need faster response time like 1ms  Tn Panel provides it but picture quality of ips is better e.g i have galaxy s6 which has ips panel and late at night when i watch dota or cs videos at 1080 on youtube it looks so so smooth hd and good but will TN provides same Picture quality 

What would u recommend to a guy like me that want faster response time as well as good or you can say great picture quality too !!

Kindly recommend

[AkiraDaarkst]

3 minutes ago, Tbags said:

I play cs, so i need faster response time like 1ms 

From my understanding, human reaction times are much longer than 1ms so whether the monitor is 1ms or 5ms doesn't really make a real world difference.

[Tbags]

4 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

From my understanding, human reaction times are much longer than 1ms so whether the monitor is 1ms or 5ms doesn't really make a real world difference.

I agree to you but when u play first person shooting multiplayer games sometimes u and your opponent fire at same time then the response time matters then one can see that 1ms works! 

[Aereldor]

6 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

From my understanding, human reaction times are much longer than 1ms so whether the monitor is 1ms or 5ms doesn't really make a real world difference.

 

He plays CS:GO, and if OP is competitive or aspires to be, he/she might come to or may already have noticed the difference between 5ms and 1ms monitors. Ghosting is minimal at response times of under 8ms to the untrained eye, but there is reason to believe that improved performance with 1 or 2ms monitors is not due to a placebo effect. 

[Aereldor]

If you're dead serious about competitive FPS games, I would recommend stepping up your budget a little bit and getting something like this-

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/R998TW/aoc-monitor-g2460pg

 

The 144hz refresh rate and 1ms response time are ideal for your purposes, and G-Sync, while it comes at a significantly more expensive price, will eliminate screen tearing without causing any input lag like with V-sync.

[Tbags]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

If you're dead serious about competitive FPS games, I would recommend stepping up your budget a little bit and getting something like this-

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/R998TW/aoc-monitor-g2460pg

 

The 144hz refresh rate and 1ms response time are ideal for your purposes, and G-Sync, while it comes at a significantly more expensive price, will eliminate screen tearing without causing any input lag like with V-sync.

Bro i knw 144hz and all u said i just ask u what would u recommene being a gamer a Tn pannel or Ips ?

[dizmo]

Do you game competitively or just for fun?

If competitively, I'd say refresh rate is much more important than response time.

You also need to look at reviews and figure out the processing lag, which can completely change which one is actually better.

 

I agree with @Aereldor Try and grab a 144hz monitor.

 

Also, your phone doesn't have an IPS display, it has an AMOLED display. So, while the picture will be more vibrant than a TN panel, it still won't be as good as your phone. Your phone also has a many-times-higher pixel density.

[flibberdipper]

8 minutes ago, AkiraDaarkst said:

From my understanding, human reaction times are much longer than 1ms so whether the monitor is 1ms or 5ms doesn't really make a real world difference.

1ms refers to how fast the pixels respond, and you do generally notice the difference.

 

But basically, if you really want good colors and really good viewing angles, go with IPS. But, if you want a faster overall response, TN panels will be better, since the pixels will respond faster (basically eliminating ghosting), and you can get higher refresh rates.

 

Personally, I wouldn't go with a panel with an advertised GTG (grey-to-grey) time higher than 5ms. My panel is 7ms (Dell S2340m), and I do notice more ghosting opposed to my TV and laptop which both have 5ms advertised GTG times.

[Techicolors]

I have spent some time on a TN panel and a IPS panel.. I prefer IPS panels. really good colors (don't care much about viewing angles as my monitor has adjustable stand). it's only a 60hz panel though, and i strictly play single player games. the odd multiplayer game here and there but nothing competitive 

[Aereldor]

25 minutes ago, Tbags said:

Bro i knw 144hz and all u said i just ask u what would u recommene being a gamer a Tn pannel or Ips ?

Sure, I can break that down into simple terms. Good things are in green. Bad things are in red.

 

IPS

• More accurate colours - things will look more like developers wanted them to, and videos and photos you edit will not look unnatural on other displays.
• Better viewing angles - people will be able to see accurate colours when looking from the side, which makes it better for situations involving many users.
• A slower response time - there will slightly more time between when you do something and when there is a reaction on the screen.
• A lower refresh rate - you will get less frames every second. IPS panels at your budget are usually limited to 60.

Because of these reasons, IPS monitors are better for people who care more about colour accuracy and less about a faster monitor. For people who edit photos and videos, want the best viewing experience for movies and videos, and care about their games looking good, rather than being lightning-fast.

 

TN

• Less accurate colours - colours may seem exaggerated or washed-out. Things will look less like developers intended, and so will photos and videos you edit.
• Worse viewing angles - people looking at the screen from the sides will see distorted colours. This makes it worse for when many people need to see.
• A faster response time - There will be slightly less time between when you click and when there is a reaction on the screen.
• A higher refresh rate - You will get more frames every second. TN panels at your budget can go up to 144Hz, which is more than double of what you get with IPS.

Because of these reasons, TN monitors are better for people who care more about a faster, more responsive monitor for fast-paced, competitive games. However, they are not preferable for people who care about colour accuracy for things like video or photo editing, or for people who want their movies, videos, and games to look as the creators intended.

 

To break it down for you-

• Are you a seriously competitive FPS gamer? YES = 1ms 144Hz TN | NO = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS.
• Do you care about the smoothness and responsiveness of your games more than the visuals? YES = 1ms 144Hz TN | NO = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS.
• Do you edit photos or videos? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.
• Do you care if the colours of movies and videos you watch are accurate? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.
• Do you often have situations where many people have to look at your screen? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.

 

MY RECOMMENDATIONS

$250 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms TN - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

$180 2560x1080 ultrawide 75Hz 5ms IPS - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV1XB2K/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

Of course, you live in Pakistan, so these prices and models don't really match your market. At all.

[Aereldor]

24 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Do you game competitively or just for fun?

If competitively, I'd say refresh rate is much more important than response time.

You also need to look at reviews and figure out the processing lag, which can completely change which one is actually better.

 

I agree with @Aereldor Try and grab a 144hz monitor.

 

Also, your phone doesn't have an IPS display, it has an AMOLED display. So, while the picture will be more vibrant than a TN panel, it still won't be as good as your phone. Your phone also has a many-times-higher pixel density.

Well, it depends on how serious he is. I just realized that there are a bunch of 75Hz IPS ultrawides on sale, so if he cares about anything more than competitive FPS gaming, those are his best bet. 75Hz and 5ms are still very respectable, even for CS:GO.

[Tbags]

46 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Sure, I can break that down into simple terms. Good things are in green. Bad things are in red.

 

IPS

• More accurate colours - things will look more like developers wanted them to, and videos and photos you edit will not look unnatural on other displays.
• Better viewing angles - people will be able to see accurate colours when looking from the side, which makes it better for situations involving many users.
• A slower response time - there will slightly more time between when you do something and when there is a reaction on the screen.
• A lower refresh rate - you will get less frames every second. IPS panels at your budget are usually limited to 60.

Because of these reasons, IPS monitors are better for people who care more about colour accuracy and less about a faster monitor. For people who edit photos and videos, want the best viewing experience for movies and videos, and care about their games looking good, rather than being lightning-fast.

 

TN

• Less accurate colours - colours may seem exaggerated or washed-out. Things will look less like developers intended, and so will photos and videos you edit.
• Worse viewing angles - people looking at the screen from the sides will see distorted colours. This makes it worse for when many people need to see.
• A faster response time - There will be slightly less time between when you click and when there is a reaction on the screen.
• A higher refresh rate - You will get more frames every second. TN panels at your budget can go up to 144Hz, which is more than double of what you get with IPS.

Because of these reasons, TN monitors are better for people who care more about a faster, more responsive monitor for fast-paced, competitive games. However, they are not preferable for people who care about colour accuracy for things like video or photo editing, or for people who want their movies, videos, and games to look as the creators intended.

 

To break it down for you-

• Are you a seriously competitive FPS gamer? YES = 1ms 144Hz TN | NO = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS.
• Do you care about the smoothness and responsiveness of your games more than the visuals? YES = 1ms 144Hz TN | NO = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS.
• Do you edit photos or videos? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.
• Do you care if the colours of movies and videos you watch are accurate? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.
• Do you often have situations where many people have to look at your screen? YES = 60Hz 4-5ms IPS | NO = 1ms 144hz TN.

 

MY RECOMMENDATIONS

$250 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms TN - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

$180 2560x1080 ultrawide 75Hz 5ms IPS - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BV1XB2K/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

Of course, you live in Pakistan, so these prices and models don't really match your market. At all.

Thank u narrow it down i understand a lot 2 simple questions?

1.IF i select Tn pannel will i enjoy 1080p ? like if we assgin numbers to Ips pannel in terms of good picture quality =100 what would u give to Tn pannel ? 

2, secondly as we watch youtube videos of 1080p gaming will Tn pannel give a smooth and very sexy ( u knw what i mean xd) 1080p experience ?

[Tbags]

Thank u all

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Aereldor said:

Well, it depends on how serious he is. I just realized that there are a bunch of 75Hz IPS ultrawides on sale, so if he cares about anything more than competitive FPS gaming, those are his best bet. 75Hz and 5ms are still very respectable, even for CS:GO.

I'd never, ever get a 25" ultrawide monitor. They're the same height as a 20" 16x9.

[Aereldor]

38 minutes ago, Tbags said:

Thank u narrow it down i understand a lot 2 simple questions?

1.IF i select Tn pannel will i enjoy 1080p ? like if we assgin numbers to Ips pannel in terms of good picture quality =100 what would u give to Tn pannel ? 

2, secondly as we watch youtube videos of 1080p gaming will Tn pannel give a smooth and very sexy ( u knw what i mean xd) 1080p experience ?

... Well, if IPS panels on average were a 100, TN panels are a 60 for me, as an amateur video editor. The difference would be greater for people who edit photos and videos professionally and less for people who only game and have never had a modern monitor.

 

Most people don't complain about TN panels, but everyone I know notices the improvement when using an IPS panel.

 

IPS. Get an IPS for your 'smooth and very sexy' 1080p experience. Gaming will be fine. You're refusing to tell me whether or not you're serious about competitive CS:GO, so I'm just going to assume you're not, which means 1080p 60Hz 5ms is good enough for you.

[Aereldor]

@Tbags Here. This monitor matches your budget and is from a Pakistani site.

https://www.daraz.pk/asus-full-hd-monitor-vz249h-ips-silver-6410641.html

 

If you want faster response times like old CRT monitors but still want decent picture quality, get this-

http://www.shophive.com/benq-rl2755hm-led-gaming-monitor

[Tbags]

9 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

@Tbags Here. This monitor matches your budget and is from a Pakistani site.

https://www.daraz.pk/asus-full-hd-monitor-vz249h-ips-silver-6410641.html

 

If you want faster response times like old CRT monitors but still want decent picture quality, get this-

http://www.shophive.com/benq-rl2755hm-led-gaming-monitor

Bro u are the greatest  how i can add u on steam  true senpai

[Aereldor]

10 minutes ago, Tbags said:

Bro u are the greatest  how i can add u on steam  true senpai

I don't like to give out my Steam ID. If you want to contact me with questions, you can do so here on LTT by sending me a message or tagging me like this @Aereldor.