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[biosflash]

I just got a new pc and im wonder that should i install win 10 on it? Is it good? On my last pc i had 8.1

[You_are_a_cunt]

You should

[JFischer00]

2 minutes ago, Petikeki said:

I just got a new pc and im wonder that should i install win 10 on it? Is it good? On my last pc i had 8.1

If you liked 8.1, you'll love 10. If you didn't like 8.1, you'll like 10 (but probably not love it, maybe though ).

[UMxMarky94]

TBH although Windows 7 is better (all in all) go with 10. It going to have updates (for good and bad)

[Oshino Shinobu]

Go for Windows 10 unless there's a specific reason you want to go for an older OS. All of the new features are being brought to Windows 10 and MS is kind of leaving previous versions behind more so than they normally do. 

[tarfeef101]

15 minutes ago, JFischer00 said:

If you liked 8.1, you'll love 10. If you didn't like 8.1, you'll like 10 (but probably not love it, maybe though ).

Not true at all. I like 8.1, hate 10 with an undying passion.

 

10 forces restarts and updates onto you, even when in the middle of doing work (even happened to luke on WAN before). It also does far more data mining, which I don't care about as much as most people. Furthermore, 10 installs default apps that cannot be uninstalled by conventional means, and the only way I could get rid of them was through complex work with file ownership, which didn't even get rid of their start icons, and they get reinstalled in like a week.

 

until BS like that is gone, 10 is not worth it to me whatsoever.

[TheNuzziNuzz]

You Sould! (Wan Show)

[JFischer00]

5 hours ago, tarfeef101 said:

Not true at all. I like 8.1, hate 10 with an undying passion.

 

1. 10 forces restarts and updates onto you, even when in the middle of doing work (even happened to luke on WAN before).

2. It also does far more data mining, which I don't care about as much as most people.

3. Furthermore, 10 installs default apps that cannot be uninstalled by conventional means, and the only way I could get rid of them was through complex work with file ownership, which didn't even get rid of their start icons, and they get reinstalled in like a week.

 

until BS like that is gone, 10 is not worth it to me whatsoever.

Sorry, I forgot I posted this until now...

 

1. Windows 10 always notifies me to schedule a time to restart and has NEVER restarted my computer for me, so I don't know what that's about. Maybe you guys have it setup differently.

2. I don't care about data mining either. No companies are spying on you personally. All they really look at are the big picture numbers.

3. They don't take up much space. Some of them are actually useful and for those I don't care to use I just leave them alone and install my own program for that function if necessary (e.g. VLC instead of "Movies & TV" and "Groove Music"). It's just not that big a deal.

 

All in all, I have no real objections to Windows 10 and honestly, it is the future, like it or not. The good certainly outweighs the bad and it gets better with each update.

[Yongtjunkit]

11 hours ago, tarfeef101 said:

Not true at all. I like 8.1, hate 10 with an undying passion.

 

10 forces restarts and updates onto you, even when in the middle of doing work (even happened to luke on WAN before). It also does far more data mining, which I don't care about as much as most people. Furthermore, 10 installs default apps that cannot be uninstalled by conventional means, and the only way I could get rid of them was through complex work with file ownership, which didn't even get rid of their start icons, and they get reinstalled in like a week.

 

until BS like that is gone, 10 is not worth it to me whatsoever.

That's because you've set windows update to automatic not notify to schedule restart 

[tarfeef101]

5 hours ago, Yongtjunkit said:

That's because you've set windows update to automatic not notify to schedule restart 

Incorrect. Eventually, if you leave it long enough, the OS will force a restart, as it will stop giving you options to delay the restart. The only way to prevent this is to use a metered connection, and manually toggle that setting when you want to update, which is a pain in the rear end.

 

11 hours ago, JFischer00 said:

3. They don't take up much space. Some of them are actually useful and for those I don't care to use I just leave them alone and install my own program for that function if necessary (e.g. VLC instead of "Movies & TV" and "Groove Music"). It's just not that big a deal.

Yeah, not AS big of a problem on my desktop, but on my old laptop with a 128GB drive, that was very important, and frustrating.

 

Point is some of these issues are minor, some are major. But as a customer paying good money for these OSes, I should not have to deal with clunky workaround and whatnot. With 8.1 I don't have to, which is why I'm still on it. That's the point. It's not an inability to find those workaround, I actually discovered many of them myself during the alpha/beta, but rather my feeling that I should have a polished product that doesn't require such workarounds to suit my usage.

[Yongtjunkit]

14 hours ago, tarfeef101 said:

Incorrect. Eventually, if you leave it long enough, the OS will force a restart, as it will stop giving you options to delay the restart. The only way to prevent this is to use a metered connection, and manually toggle that setting when you want to update, which is a pain in the rear end.

 

Yeah, not AS big of a problem on my desktop, but on my old laptop with a 128GB drive, that was very important, and frustrating.

 

Point is some of these issues are minor, some are major. But as a customer paying good money for these OSes, I should not have to deal with clunky workaround and whatnot. With 8.1 I don't have to, which is why I'm still on it. That's the point. It's not an inability to find those workaround, I actually discovered many of them myself during the alpha/beta, but rather my feeling that I should have a polished product that doesn't require such workarounds to suit my usage.

Hmm, if I wasn't mistaken you can try changing the active hour but there's a limit to the active hour( I think it's 8 hours).

[Murilo_A]

On ‎15‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 0:40 PM, Petikeki said:

I just got a new pc and im wonder that should i install win 10 on it? Is it good? On my last pc i had 8.1

The anniversary update has some bugs, they're fixing it, but if don't care about the changes, download the previous version, it's more stable

[tarfeef101]

1 hour ago, Yongtjunkit said:

Hmm, if I wasn't mistaken you can try changing the active hour but there's a limit to the active hour( I think it's 8 hours).

My active hours are all hours. Again, this comes to me not accepting that I should adapt my life to their OS. It should bend to what I need.

[Yongtjunkit]

5 hours ago, tarfeef101 said:

My active hours are all hours. Again, this comes to me not accepting that I should adapt my life to their OS. It should bend to what I need.

Ok then I've understand why you were complaining about the update system in windows 10. Not everyone runs their pc 24/7 though. 

[tarfeef101]

1 hour ago, Yongtjunkit said:

Ok then I've understand why you were complaining about the update system in windows 10. Not everyone runs their pc 24/7 though. 

True, and I understand why they did that. Many "common" consumers will just delay and delay updates, leaving security vulnerabilities, etc. and eventually causing their own downfall because they don't practice common sense on the internet. This is a way to prevent them from compromising their security by failing to update. Unfortunately, it comes at the cost of people like me who are both intelligent and run their PC all day. If only they allowed a setting to be toggled to allow manual control of updates, ALL preinstalled apps, I'd probably have upgraded on launch. There are draws (DX12, faster boots (marginally), better command prompt, multiple desktops, windows hello, etc.

[KenjiUmino]

On 17.12.2016 at 9:15 AM, tarfeef101 said:

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i wish they would at least split their updates into "critical security stuff" and "everything else"

 

and then make it so their "security stuff" does not require restarts (it is possible to do) and give me the option to do "everything else" manually when I decide i have time for it and want to do it 

[tarfeef101]

4 hours ago, KenjiUmino said:

i wish they would at least split their updates into "critical security stuff" and "everything else"

 

and then make it so their "security stuff" does not require restarts (it is possible to do) and give me the option to do "everything else" manually when I decide i have time for it and want to do it 

Yep. Although I'd still take it a step further and say let me delay any update, I know what I'm getting into. Sometimes whatever I'm in the middle of is more important to me than the potential security risks that come with delaying those updates (really not hard to get a virus, don't know how people manage to do so so easily)