PC-less for over a year

[TrueZarken]

Hey LinusTechTips Community,

 

As the titles states, I have not had a PC for about a year outside of my laptop which is getting on a bit now. It is good when I want to play older games with its Intel-based graphics, but it is getting to that point now where I want to play a few more graphic intensive games. Part of me says just wait till CES and see what comes out and if I like it wait, but if not buy. I am interested in hearing your opinion on what I should do and I will also put a current PC Part List to compare if I should go ahead now or wait.

 

CPU: Intel Core i7 6800K

CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i

Motherboard: ASUS X99 Deluxe II

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4x8GB)

SSD: Intel 750 1.2 TB PCI-E

Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual

Case: Corsair 760T White

Power Supply: Corsair RM1000i

 

Update: I forgot to mention that a hobby of mine is Maya with modelling and animation so that is why I am going with a six core CPU instead of the 6700K and I am going to SLI/Crossfire next year hence the 1000W PSU.

[Velvet Revolver]

Looks good, you could wait until Zen comes out.

[HKZeroFive]

What are you doing on this system? If you're only gaming, you could go for a Skylake rig which will perform better at a lower cost. Also, that power supply is absurdly overkill for a X99 + GTX 1070 rig.

[RadiatingLight]

Swap the 6800K for a 6700K.

swap the 1070 for a 1080

 

get a RM750X for cheaper. you don't need 1000 Watts (not even close)

 

if you aren't gaming at 1440p or higher, you could get a 6600K + GTX 1070 and get a much cheaper system that is STILL overkill for 1080p

[Spudbilly]

Yeah man...I'm not trying to be a jerk here...just curious what your game plan is???

 

You have been using Intel integrated graphics for gaming and your proposed build, for getting into graphically intensive games, is a super duper insane enthusiast grade PC as the solution.  

 

 

Messing around aside. Is that crazy of a PC really what you want, or do you just want to get into gaming. If you really want that crazy of a PC...then just wait til CES...then you can choose from the latest greatest and truly enthusiast level products. 

[Energycore]

17 minutes ago, TrueZarken said:

Hey LinusTechTips Community,

 

As the titles states, I have not had a PC for about a year outside of my laptop which is getting on a bit now. It is good when I want to play older games with its Intel-based graphics, but it is getting to that point now where I want to play a few more graphic intensive games. Part of me says just wait till CES and see what comes out and if I like it wait, but if not buy. I am interested in hearing your opinion on what I should do and I will also put a current PC Part List to compare if I should go ahead now or wait.

 

CPU: Intel Core i7 6800K

CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i

Motherboard: ASUS X99 Deluxe II

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4x8GB)

SSD: Intel 750 1.2 TB PCI-E

Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual

Case: Corsair 760T White

Power Supply: Corsair RM1000i

You don't need a 1.2TB SSD (especially not a 750 when there are 1TB ones for $280), or an X99 system, or 32GB RAM, or a 1000W PSU.

 

Instead I'd do:

i7-6700K

Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB

Crucial MX300 1.1TB

EVGA GTX 1070 (any of them)

Case: Corsair 760t

PSU: Corsair RM750i

[MarieKirya]

17 minutes ago, Spudbilly said:

wait til CES...then you can choose from the latest greatest and truly enthusiast level products. 

Nothing in the enthusiast space is going to change at CES. I could come back and bite my tongue. If your computer is your work machine, the extra 2 cores you get by going X99 is definitely worth it.

[BenoitWW]

umm. well lets say i would love to have your budget. this is a good content creation build. Gaming build would be 6700K + GTX1070/GTX1080

[TrueZarken]

35 minutes ago, Velvet Revolver said:

Looks good, you could wait until Zen comes out.

Yeah, that was my thinking and I do have a soft spot for AMD.

32 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

What are you doing on this system? If you're only gaming, you could go for a Skylake rig which will perform better at a lower cost. Also, that power supply is absurdly overkill for a X99 + GTX 1070 rig.

 

I tend to use the program Maya for modelling and animation for a hobby hence the X99 and I play Cities Skyline a lot which appears to actually use the additional cores. The overkill power supply is that I tend to go for SLI/Crossfire later down the track. Previously I have made a rig with an HD 7850 but then upgraded to Crossfire R9 290X etc. I plan to do the same here, just start out with the 1070 but then follow up with SLI or Crossfire whatever is better next year.

29 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Swap the 6800K for a 6700K.

swap the 1070 for a 1080

 

get a RM750X for cheaper. you don't need 1000 Watts (not even close)

 

if you aren't gaming at 1440p or higher, you could get a 6600K + GTX 1070 and get a much cheaper system that is STILL overkill for 1080p

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Thank you, but the reasons above answers these, but I appreciate the feedback. 

22 minutes ago, Spudbilly said:

Yeah man...I'm not trying to be a jerk here...just curious what your game plan is???

 

You have been using Intel integrated graphics for gaming and your proposed build, for getting into graphically intensive games, is a super duper insane enthusiast grade PC as the solution.  

 

 

Messing around aside. Is that crazy of a PC really what you want, or do you just want to get into gaming. If you really want that crazy of a PC...then just wait til CES...then you can choose from the latest greatest and truly enthusiast level products. 

 

Cheers mate, appreciate the feedback. 

20 minutes ago, Energycore said:

You don't need a 1.2TB SSD (especially not a 750 when there are 1TB ones for $280), or an X99 system, or 32GB RAM, or a 1000W PSU.

 

Instead I'd do:

i7-6700K

Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB

Crucial MX300 1.1TB

EVGA GTX 1070 (any of them)

Case: Corsair 760t

PSU: Corsair RM750i

 

Cheers for the feedback, I'll see how much this will cost.

3 minutes ago, MarieKirya said:

Nothing in the enthusiast space is going to change at CES. I could come back and bite my tongue. If your computer is your work machine, the extra 2 cores you get by going X99 is definitely worth it.

 

Haha, I'll hold you to it. 

[TrueZarken]

7 minutes ago, BenoitWW said:

umm. well lets say i would love to have your budget. this is a good content creation build. Gaming build would be 6700K + GTX1070/GTX1080

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Cheers, I appreciate the feedback. I forget to mention that I like to use Maya for modelling and animation in the original post. 

[MarieKirya]

2 minutes ago, TrueZarken said:

Maya for modelling

Then to me, I think you prioritized the correct things (CPU, RAM Capacity). A without extra detail, people come here assuming that computer builds are solely for gaming. 

[RadiatingLight]

3 minutes ago, MarieKirya said:

Then to me, I think you prioritized the correct things (CPU, RAM Capacity). A without extra detail, people come here assuming that computer builds are solely for gaming. 

Well he did say he was going to use this for gaming, and specified no other use, so at that time, it was pretty safe to assume that this was a gaming rig

[TrueZarken]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Well he did say he was going to use this for gaming, and specified no other use, so at that time, it was pretty safe to assume that this was a gaming rig

 

 

Yeah, sorry about that, my fault for not fully explaining the use case of the PC. The originally post has been updated to accommodate for that.

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, TrueZarken said:

Yeah, sorry about that, my fault for not fully explaining the use case of the PC. The originally post has been updated to accommodate for that.

no problem. in light of this newfound information, I think your build is awesome and well configured. you still don't need a 1000W PSU. Those components will take, maybe 500W at load. RM650X should be enough, but for an extra buffer, I would personally go for a 750W PSU in your case.

[HKZeroFive]

16 minutes ago, TrueZarken said:

I tend to use the program Maya for modelling and animation for a hobby hence the X99 and I play Cities Skyline a lot which appears to actually use the additional cores. The overkill power supply is that I tend to go for SLI/Crossfire later down the track. Previously I have made a rig with an HD 7850 but then upgraded to Crossfire R9 290X etc. I plan to do the same here, just start out with the 1070 but then follow up with SLI or Crossfire whatever is better next year.

If you plan to Crossfire or SLI, just grab the Corsair RM750i instead. 1000W is still way more than you actually need.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

24 minutes ago, MarieKirya said:

Then to me, I think you prioritized the correct things (CPU, RAM Capacity). A without extra detail, people come here assuming that computer builds are solely for gaming. 

I've observed that here, and on other sites that cater to build-it-yourself computers - pretty much almost all the ones i go on - people assuming build are for just gaming.  

 

I'd like to be able to learn more about building PCs for more like office or home (non-gaming) use - for example, something for my parents, who keep computers a very long time, and who don't play games more intense than Solitaire (the one that used to come with Windows).

 

Just curious, how hard would it be to spec out a computer that excels in playing movies, doing office work, maybe some photo & video editing, etc, would be good enough overall to last at least 7-8 or 10+ years without having to upgrade any components other than adding storage (and still be as good then as an i7-920 with 16-24 GB RAM, a first-generation PCI-E ~200-300GB SSD & Windows 7 Pro is today), but can't even run any 3D games made after 1995 at all? (Or, maybe only gets 6-8 fps at lowest resolution & settings in the original Doom & Wolfenstein 3D?)  Or does the nature of graphics acceleration require using GPUs (even if just integrated graphics) that actually can run 3D games, to also play movies, do content creation, etc?

[MarieKirya]

14 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

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Honestly, not hard. We've hit a plateau where people are satisfied with what they already have. For casual use for years to come, a 4 core intel system with 16 GB of RAM and fast storage like an NVMe drive will last for a veeeery long time. 

[Melorski]

10 hours ago, TrueZarken said:

I tend to use the program Maya for modelling and animation for a hobby hence the X99 and I play Cities Skyline a lot which appears to actually use the additional cores.

Don't know a thing about the capabilities/needs of the Maya program but I have been away from PC gaming for a good while and some YouTube vids of Cities Skylines has reawakened my desire to build a gaming box. Cost is not a huge issue but I don't want to overspend needlessly. I have done a fair bit of research and found a benchmark that showed no particular advantage ( and actually fewer frames per second ) on a 6 core setup compared to a 4 core on CS. Not sure why. I think you and I might be looking for the same things in a new machine. I have chosen to wait to see what happens with the I7-7600 chip that will be coming out ( hopefully ) early January. Along with this is a new chipset. A few weeks ago it seemed that this might be a fairly big step up from the 6600K but more recent testing seems to negate the initial speculation. In any case I would consider waiting just a short time more. BTW if you know of any site that details and improvement in City Skylines with 6 cores please share them because I have only purchased a case and everything else is subject to change. Also, rather than a dual card video solution, I would consider a more powerful card ( or wait till Jan and buy a 1080TI ) 

 

Paul

 

 

[MarieKirya]

35 minutes ago, Melorski said:

Maya

3D modeling and animation program. It's who nvidia sells quadros to usually. Workstation apps get intense. 

[TheDankKoosh]

14 hours ago, TrueZarken said:

Hey LinusTechTips Community,

 

As the titles states, I have not had a PC for about a year outside of my laptop which is getting on a bit now. It is good when I want to play older games with its Intel-based graphics, but it is getting to that point now where I want to play a few more graphic intensive games. Part of me says just wait till CES and see what comes out and if I like it wait, but if not buy. I am interested in hearing your opinion on what I should do and I will also put a current PC Part List to compare if I should go ahead now or wait.

 

CPU: Intel Core i7 6800K

CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i

Motherboard: ASUS X99 Deluxe II

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (4x8GB)

SSD: Intel 750 1.2 TB PCI-E

Video Card: ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual

Case: Corsair 760T White

Power Supply: Corsair RM1000i

 

Update: I forgot to mention that a hobby of mine is Maya with modelling and animation so that is why I am going with a six core CPU instead of the 6700K and I am going to SLI/Crossfire next year hence the 1000W PSU.

This will get the job done at a MUCH better cost (that intel ssd is completely overpriced)

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CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 12GB Video Card  ($1200.00) 
Case: Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($92.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($90.00 @ Amazon) 
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