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How much of a problem is the lack of room for cable manage on the side panel for you? And how hard is it to route cables from a modular PSU with the back part of the motherboard tray blocking most access to the PSU? Is it something that really annoys you or did you manage to work around it? I really like the looks of the H440 but those 2 things like troublesome.

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Its pretty annoying when your moving cables around when your done with a build, i sometimes just leave it half hindged 

 

routing cables isn't that hard like I said, its after when your done building is when the hassle of moving cables comes

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22 hours ago, Aytex said:

Its pretty annoying when your moving cables around when your done with a build, i sometimes just leave it half hindged 

 

routing cables isn't that hard like I said, its after when your done building is when the hassle of moving cables comes

 

So plugging it all is fine but the management part is hard? Hmm, not sure if I wanna just get the Define S or not.

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7 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

So plugging it all is fine but the management part is hard? Hmm, not sure if I wanna just get the Define S or not.

Im saying, like once your done building it and cable mangeing everything, and close the side panels. and then later in like a week you want to install something new, its a hassle putting the cables in the back

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Cable mangement isn't that hard though :) 

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3 hours ago, Aytex said:

Im saying, like once your done building it and cable mangeing everything, and close the side panels. and then later in like a week you want to install something new, its a hassle putting the cables in the back

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Cable mangement isn't that hard though :) 

 

I see what you're saying now. In your honest opinion do you think its worth it over the Define S w/ window? I wanted that one at first but I don't like the texture of the front, originally I was annoyed with the open-ness of the case but then I figured if I did ever go watercooling there would be room, plus more room for air flow, so right now my only annoyance is the texture BUT if I did get the case I would most likely be looking at the window anyway and not the ugly front. The reason I considered the H440 was I like the window better, the color scheme (the red and black would fit my build nicely), and the basement. The define has no basement so I would see the PSU and its cluster of chords as well as my SSDs would be hidding in the back.

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14 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I see what you're saying now. In your honest opinion do you think its worth it over the Define S w/ window? I wanted that one at first but I don't like the texture of the front, originally I was annoyed with the open-ness of the case but then I figured if I did ever go watercooling there would be room, plus more room for air flow, so right now my only annoyance is the texture BUT if I did get the case I would most likely be looking at the window anyway and not the ugly front. The reason I considered the H440 was I like the window better, the color scheme (the red and black would fit my build nicely), and the basement. The define has no basement so I would see the PSU and its cluster of chords as well as my SSDs would be hidding in the back.

I would take the h440 over the Define S any day

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17 minutes ago, Aytex said:

I would take the h440 over the Define S any day

Alright. I know you water cool but what do you think would be a good air cool setup? Here's what I have so far. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXq8jc I was thinking 3 intake at the front around 60 cfm and 1 power 140mm at the back around 100 cfm, make sure plenty of cool air coming in and a good powerful exhaust in the back.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, AimlessFlame said:

What about the define c window version?

I'll stick to the H440, but thanks for the tip.

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7 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

Alright. I know you water cool but what do you think would be a good air cool setup? Here's what I have so far. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXq8jc I was thinking 3 intake at the front around 60 cfm and 1 power 140mm at the back around 100 cfm, make sure plenty of cool air coming in and a good powerful exhaust in the back.

 

 

Get rid of the thermal paste and spend more money on the CPU cooler

 

for fans get rid of the SP series,

 

Corsair ML120

Be quiet! Silent Wings 3

Noctua NF-12

EK Vadar

 

All great options for case fans

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Get rid of the thermal paste and spend more money on the CPU cooler

 

for fans get rid of the SP series,

 

Corsair ML120

Be quiet! Silent Wings 3

Noctua NF-12

EK Vadar

 

All great options for case fans

My friend yelled at me for the paste too but I did it for a reason lol, but for the fans whats a good CFM for the front and back?

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1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

My friend yelled at me for the paste too but I did it for a reason lol, but for the fans whats a good CFM for the front and back?

Stick with the stock fan cfm

 

3x 120 and 1x 140

 

Good cpu cooler options 

Phanteks PH-TC12D

CRYORIG H7

Thermalright Macho Rev. B

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Stick with the stock fan cfm

 

3x 120 and 1x 140

I'll have to see what the stock fans CFM even is, what about cpu cooler? None go above 80 from what I can see so what's some good ones?

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Just now, OnionRings said:

I'll have to see what the stock fans CFM even is, what about cpu cooler? None go above 80 from what I can see so what's some good ones?

I thought CFM= circumference but its not :P 

CFM dosen't matter that much, just pick any of the fans I gave and the cpu coolers I listed

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I thought CFM= circumference but its not :P 

CFM dosen't matter that much, just pick any of the fans I gave and the cpu coolers I listed

Ok, thinking about the DH 15 and maybe just changing the fans to something black, I hate noctua's color scheme.

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Just now, OnionRings said:

Ok, thinking about the DH 15 and maybe just changing the fans to something black, I hate noctua's color scheme.

D15 is great, didn't read the part about under ~$80 so I just thought ~$50

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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

D15 is great, didn't read the part about under ~$80 so I just thought ~$50

80 CFM buddy, not dollars lol. 

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Ok sticking with the 212x, pulls the same amount of air as the DH15 and I won't be overclocking too much so it will be fine, got 3 ML pro 120s for the front and a ML pro 140 for the back. :)

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