Gaming/Video Build Help

[Phil9943]

I'm looking to create either an AMD based or an Intel based computer for around $800 without windows, a cd drive, or any peripherals like a monitor or keyboard. This PC will be used for medium-serious 1080p 60fps gaming, mid to heavy multitasking, and an occasional video render (although I don't really mind waiting a tad bit longer for a render).

 

Intel Build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($117.64 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.64 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($97.50 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($84.78 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($41.21 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($76.00 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($211.98 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.38 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($42.38 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($31.57 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $775.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-05 20:45 EDT-0400

 

AMD Build:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($156.88 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.64 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 Plus ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard  ($55.97 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($81.50 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($41.21 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($76.00 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($211.98 @ B&H) 
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($42.38 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($42.38 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($31.57 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $769.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-05 20:48 EDT-0400

 

If you have any suggestions on this to change, please feel free to tell me but I don't really want to push over $850

 

General Notes (in no particular order):

-I'm looking for future upgradability

-I don't care about power consumption at all because I don't pay the power bills lol

-I don't care too much about temps as long as I don't fry my components

-I don't mind if the parts have an ugly color scheme or if they don't match. I just want my case to look kind of minimalistic but I'd really play CSGO than stare at my motherboard.

-The AMD compatilble boards use PCI-e 2.0, although I don't think this will be a problem because it's been shown over and over that PCI-e 2.0 vs 3.0 doesn't really affect in game FPS at all

-The WLAN card is a must for me, I don't really have ethernet access

-I'm wiling to give up the SSD but I'd heavy prefer to keep it

-I'm looking to overclock decently often

-The DDR3 vs DDR4 isn't too much of a concern to me, it's kind of been proven it doesn't affect much of anything

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Id go intel

 

Id get a i5, save some money by using the stock cooler and getting a cheaper board(you can oc the i3)

 

 

[Guest]

Yeah go with intel even though FX 8350 might be better a bit but not worth it since you can't upgrade it at all. While 6100 can still go to i5 6500 or i7 6700

Also no need for a z170 mobo on a non k cpu

[rn8686]

I would still stick with Intel for this as it is much easer to upgrade to an i5/i7. I would try to opt for the 6Gb 1060 or a 4Gb 470/480 as it doesnt have enough VRAM. 

[Bananasplit_00]

id go with an intel I5 build, something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqLrm8

[Phil9943]

7 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Yeah go with intel even though FX 8350 might be better a bit but not worth it since you can't upgrade it at all. While 6100 can still go to i5 6500 or i7 6700

Also no need for a z170 mobo on a non k cpu

Would an intel i3-6100 or a non k i5 overclock well on a non z170 motherboard?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Phil9943 said:

Would an intel i3-6100 or a non k i5 overclock well on a non z170 motherboard?

It will work but is a total waste of money. And no you can not do that unless use a blck method which is not worth it

[Phil9943]

7 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

I would still stick with Intel for this as it is much easer to upgrade to an i5/i7. I would try to opt for the 6Gb 1060 or a 4Gb 470/480 as it doesnt have enough VRAM. 

3GB frame buffer should probably be okay for 1080p gaming to be honest. I'm not going to be running like any mods at all and I'm more concerned with base clock speed so I think a 3gb 1060 is ok

[Phil9943]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

It will work but is a total waste of money

Are you saying that z170's are a waste of money and that you can overclock fine on h170's? What you wrote was a bit unclear..

[Guest]

Just now, Phil9943 said:

Are you saying that z170's are a waste of money and that you can overclock fine on h170's? What you wrote was a bit unclear..

sorry i edited my post. 

 

[Coaxialgamer]

hey what about this build ?

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($38.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.88 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $798.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-05 21:03 EDT-0400

[Phil9943]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

hey what about this build ?

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($38.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.88 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $798.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-05 21:03 EDT-0400

yo.

 

a 1070 build for less than $800

 

yo.

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Phil9943 said:

yo.

 

a 1070 build for less than $800

 

yo.

they don't call me the Pcpartpick-er for nothing 

 

 

just kidding nobody calls me that.

[Phil9943]

3 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

hey what about this build ?

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4ttQV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($38.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($38.88 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $798.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-05 21:03 EDT-0400

Is there like any difference in performance or length of life on a "mini itx" 1070? I've never really heard of one before I'm just curious. Also, that connects via the standard PCI-e 3.0 right (just making sure lolol)

[Coaxialgamer]

3 minutes ago, Phil9943 said:

Is there like any difference in performance or length of life on a "mini itx" 1070? I've never really heard of one before I'm just curious. Also, that connects via the standard PCI-e 3.0 right (just making sure lolol)

it just has one fan , but it works the same otherwise. cooling might slightly worse though . It just happened to be the cheapest one . If you want to spend a few more bucks on a better cooler , then i recommend this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XyxFT/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1070wf2oc-8gd

[Phil9943]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

it just has one fan , but it works the same otherwise. cooling might slightly worse though . It just happened to eb the cheapest one . If you want to spend a few more bucks on a better cooler , then i recommend this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XyxFT/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1070wf2oc-8gd

Will a full sized 1070 fit in that case? Is it the build you're using right now? Also, does overclocking work ok on that processor and do you ever run into bottlenecks caused by that CPU?

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Phil9943 said:

Will a full sized 1070 fit in that case? Is it the build you're using right now? Also, does overclocking work ok on that processor and do you ever run into bottlenecks caused by that CPU?

1_ just checked compatibility ,it should fit , but you might need to remove the drive bays. If you don't want to deal with that , here's an updated build using the full size card and a case that supports it :http://pcpartpicker.com/list/D9TWf8

 

2_ No , i'm currently using an i7 3770k and 2 r9 290x's  , but those parts are all highly rated if that's what you're asking .

 

3_ No , it doesn't , at least not that i know of .

 

4_It most likely won't be an issue. i5 6500 is a capable chip .

[Phil9943]

Just now, Coaxialgamer said:

1_ just checked compatibility ,it should fit , but you might need to remove the drive bays. If you don't want to deal with that , here's an updated build using the full size card and a case that supports it :http://pcpartpicker.com/list/D9TWf8

 

2_ No , i'm currently using an i7 3770k and 2 r9 290x's  , but those parts are all highly rated if that's what you're asking .

 

3_ No , it doesn't , at least not that i know of .

 

4_It most likely won't be an issue. i5 6500 is a capable chip .

Thanks for the replies. Also, do you need a semi-modular PSU or will a EVGA 500B non-modular work just fine. Looks like an easy way to save $50

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Phil9943 said:

Thanks for the replies. Also, do you need a semi-modular PSU or will a EVGA 500B non-modular work just fine. Looks like an easy way to save $50

no one ever needs a modular psu . It's just more practical to cable manage because you can remove unnecessary cables instead of stashing them wherever .

the 500B works fine.

[Phil9943]

Just now, Coaxialgamer said:

no one ever needs a modular psu . It's just more practical to cable manage because you can remove unnecessary cables instead of stashing them wherever .

the 500B works fine.

If you don't mind can I ask you why you changed your motherboard from an h110 in the first like to a b150 in the second link? Does one have features over the other?

[Coaxialgamer]

3 minutes ago, Phil9943 said:

If you don't mind can I ask you why you changed your motherboard from an h110 in the first like to a b150 in the second link? Does one have features over the other?

wait did i ? I though i had changed it to the b150 in both links ... the main advantage of b150 is the extra 2 ram slots which come in handy if you plan on adding more ram one day.

I originally considered the h110 platform because of the cost , but you'd have to sacrifice dual channel ram and would get no room for expansion. 

 

[Phil9943]

4 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

wait did i ? I though i had changed it to the b150 in both links ... the main advantage of b150 is the extra 2 ram slots which come in handy if you plan on adding more ram one day.

I originally considered the h110 platform because of the cost , but you'd have to sacrifice dual channel ram and would get no room for expansion. 

 

Just as a side note, could I realistically buy an of those parts used? I certainly won't buy the gpu used, but what about stuff like the CPU or PSU?

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Phil9943 said:

Just as a side note, could I realistically buy an of those parts used? I certainly won't buy the gpu used, but what about stuff like the CPU or PSU?

you can definitely buy the psu used , as well as the case , and potentially the ssd (but i wouldn't ). Cpu is still too new to realistically be on the used market , and even if it is prices won't be good. If you want you can look for older haswell parts ( iX 4XXX ) , but that needs a different board and ram , and all depends on what deals you can get in your area.

[rn8686]

31 minutes ago, Phil9943 said:

3GB frame buffer should probably be okay for 1080p gaming to be honest. I'm not going to be running like any mods at all and I'm more concerned with base clock speed so I think a 3gb 1060 is ok

That would depend on the games you play, but many now need more than 3Gb for high-max settings. 

[Phil9943]

8 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

you can definitely buy the psu used , as well as the case , and potentially the ssd (but i wouldn't ). Cpu is still too new to realistically be on the used market , and even if it is prices won't be good. If you want you can look for older haswell parts ( iX 4XXX ) , but that needs a different board and ram , and all depends on what deals you can get in your area.

Ok so I can't really find much of anything used. Do you think that if I used an i3-6100 I'd end up severly bottlenecking the 1070?