Entry Level Gaming PC

[RazerBlade]

Anything need to be changed? Thanks.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6RjWX

[deleted_member_030719]

1 minute ago, RazerBlade said:

Anything need to be changed? Thanks.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6RjWX

Intel SSDs are overpriced. Do you really need a optical driver? You could get Windows 10 for cheaper. 

[Slottr]

Did you put this list together last year?

 

Everything is quite out of date..

[Garett1]

Why not the 1050 instead of the 950?

Ditch the optical drive if you don't need it also.

[Herman Mcpootis]

what i'd recommend instead and get os from reddit for $20-30:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($194.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock H170A-X1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($54.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($75.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.49 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($234.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($51.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $786.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 11:26 EDT-0400

[GeorgeKellow]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FVc38K

 

 

This 

 

[SmashinMachine]

You can still use Windows 7 keys for windows 10

[Starelementpoke]

24 minutes ago, RazerBlade said:

Anything need to be changed? Thanks.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6RjWX

 

 

Lots:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBLvZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBLvZ8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.98 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.94 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card  ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($15.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($84.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $815.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 11:45 EDT-0400

[Aereldor]

Everything needs to be changed. Entry builds should be about value and an upgrade path, while you're stuck on a last-generation platform for everything, and are still grossly overpaying for that performance. $80 for a 1TB HDD is more than double what you should be paying, and $97 for a 120GB SSD is almost triple. A 1050 Ti vastly outperforms the GTX 950 for the price, and the RX 460 rivals it for 2/3rds its MRP. Furthermore, an internal DVD drive is obsolete, a Windows 10 OEM key is about $30 on Kinguin, and that power supply is absolutely terrible. @STRMfrmXMN can tell you more about that last bit when he gets back from the torturer dentist.

Personally, though, I'd prefer if 'entry-level' builds were geared towards the lowest possible budgets, just to highlight that PC gaming doesn't require a behemoth investment of 800 dollars. See the build in my signature for something similar. It has enough of an upgrade path to accommodate a Core i7 6700 (non-k) and 16 GB of RAM, and with a power supply upgrade, basically anything, while the starter build only costs about $350 and still has reliable, value-oriented components. For reference, here it is-
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Celeron G3900 2.8GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($42.18 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($26.01) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  ($144.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $355.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 11:45 EDT-0400

 

The Celeron 3900 CPU is great value, and since it's dirt-cheap, rather than selling it, builders will benefit more from keeping it on board for as a backup processor. The WD Velociraptor 300GB doesn't have a ton of storage space, but is one of the HDDs out there, and can be kept on as a surprisingly fast and reliable boot drive until you can fit an SSD in there. For some reason, PCPartPicker lists it out of stock, but it's just $26 on Amazon. SSD prices are dropping even as we speak, so by the time you've filled up most of this, you should be able to get a 500GB SSD for substantially cheaper.

 

The power supply may not have as many watts or cables, but it's a reliable little box, and it comes from the safest power supply brand in existence (they've been top dog for decades, rivaled only by Super Flower in Europe). Everything else is business as usual. Unless you're looking to play at higher resolutions than 1080p or get into VR, the GTX 1050 Ti has you covered.

[Aereldor]

5 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Lots:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBLvZ8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/CBLvZ8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.98 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.94 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card  ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($15.88 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($84.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $815.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 11:45 EDT-0400

Your build is the best value at $800, but is that really a price point one can justify as entry-level? Also, OEM keys are 1/3rd the price on Kinguin, and although I could be wrong, they aren't as grey-market as G2A. 

I don't know about the N200, but I have the N300 and it's horrible. A word of caution there. Tossing out the DVD writer and upgrading to a 6GB GTX 1060 will also improve performance over a 4GB RX 480.

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Your build is the best value at $800, but is that really a price point one can justify as entry-level? Also, OEM keys are 1/3rd the price on Kinguin, and although I could be wrong, they aren't as grey-market as G2A. 

I don't know about the N200, but I have the N300 and it's horrible. A word of caution there. Tossing out the DVD writer and upgrading to a 6GB GTX 1060 will also improve performance over a 4GB RX 480.

I dunno, people say entry and I usually don't expect a low price. I personally don't trust buying window keys off of those sites, but that's just me. Pretty sure the N200 is fine, haven't heard anything bad about it. If he wants to drop the DVD writer, his call. Don't know if he has a bunch of movies he wants to play or anything. Personally I'd just grab an 8GB 480, but that's just my preference.

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

I dunno, people say entry and I usually don't expect a low price. I personally don't trust buying window keys off of those sites, but that's just me. Pretty sure the N200 is fine, haven't heard anything bad about it. If he wants to drop the DVD writer, his call. Don't know if he has a bunch of movies he wants to play or anything. Personally I'd just grab an 8GB 480, but that's just my preference.

I misunderstood his post. I thought he was one of those guys that designs part lists and posts them on here to help other people, rather than compiling a list of PC parts for personal use.

I bought a key off Kinguin, and Paul's Hardware did that and some background validation. It comes with the same inflexibility you get with an OEM key purchased from anywhere else.

[Starelementpoke]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

I misunderstood his post. I thought he was one of those guys that designs part lists and posts them on here to help other people, rather than compiling a list of PC parts for personal use.

I bought a key off Kinguin, and Paul's Hardware did that and some background validation. It comes with the same inflexibility you get with an OEM key purchased from anywhere else.

Meh, for me it's more like buying off of EBay and Craigslist. Buyer beware.

[Aereldor]

Just now, Starelementpoke said:

Meh, for me it's more like buying off of EBay and Craigslist. Buyer beware.

$2 gets you guaranteed protection on Kinguin. I didn't trust it at first, but I needed a Windows key, and it was $20. Turns out it worked. My experience alone isn't evidence enough, but there are others who have been successful purchasing keys off Kinguin.

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, Aereldor said:

$2 gets you guaranteed protection on Kinguin. I didn't trust it at first, but I needed a Windows key, and it was $20. Turns out it worked. My experience alone isn't evidence enough, but there are others who have been successful purchasing keys off Kinguin.

i know, still, I've also heard of less than stellar stories from it. If you want to buy off there, your call. Just personally staying away from it.

[Matias_Chambers]

1 hour ago, Jed M said:

Intel SSDs are overpriced. Do you really need a optical driver? You could get Windows 10 for cheaper. 

Yep, get an 850 EVO 250 GB for the same price or cheaper. 

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Everything needs to be changed. Entry builds should be about value and an upgrade path, while you're stuck on a last-generation platform for everything, and are still grossly overpaying for that performance. $80 for a 1TB HDD is more than double what you should be paying, and $97 for a 120GB SSD is almost triple. A 1050 Ti vastly outperforms the GTX 950 for the price, and the RX 460 rivals it for 2/3rds its MRP. Furthermore, an internal DVD drive is obsolete, a Windows 10 OEM key is about $30 on Kinguin, and that power supply is absolutely terrible. @STRMfrmXMN can tell you more about that last bit when he gets back from the torturer dentist.

Personally, though, I'd prefer if 'entry-level' builds were geared towards the lowest possible budgets, just to highlight that PC gaming doesn't require a behemoth investment of 800 dollars. See the build in my signature for something similar. It has enough of an upgrade path to accommodate a Core i7 6700 (non-k) and 16 GB of RAM, and with a power supply upgrade, basically anything, while the starter build only costs about $350 and still has reliable, value-oriented components. For reference, here it is-
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Celeron G3900 2.8GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($42.18 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($36.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB 2.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($26.01) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  ($144.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $355.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-04 11:45 EDT-0400

 

The Celeron 3900 CPU is great value, and since it's dirt-cheap, rather than selling it, builders will benefit more from keeping it on board for as a backup processor. The WD Velociraptor 300GB doesn't have a ton of storage space, but is one of the HDDs out there, and can be kept on as a surprisingly fast and reliable boot drive until you can fit an SSD in there. For some reason, PCPartPicker lists it out of stock, but it's just $26 on Amazon. SSD prices are dropping even as we speak, so by the time you've filled up most of this, you should be able to get a 500GB SSD for substantially cheaper.

 

The power supply may not have as many watts or cables, but it's a reliable little box, and it comes from the safest power supply brand in existence (they've been top dog for decades, rivaled only by Super Flower in Europe). Everything else is business as usual. Unless you're looking to play at higher resolutions than 1080p or get into VR, the GTX 1050 Ti has you covered.

Still on a bit if wisdom teeth drugs. What's happening? "Link to stuff below signature??

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Still on a bit if wisdom teeth drugs. What's happening? "Link to stuff below signature??

Partlist troubles. Don't worry about it. Go back to sleep.