Pity Mac

[adityarios]

 

Last 1 min is worth it

Came Across this video of a frustrated mac pro user, Does it really make sense of removing all USB ports?

I have been using USB ports since i have owned a computer, Unless Ultra fast wireless sharing technology comes ,

I doubt USB will go extinct

[kittycannon]

2 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

mac has always sucked horsecock lol

A lot of the older macs were good though

[nsinnott]

4 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

mac has always sucked horsecock lol

No, it really hasn't. macOS is extremely optimized for the hardware that it runs on. This is why the 12in MacBook runs so well even though it only has a dual core 1.2 GHz processor. Now as for removing the USB ports, they haven't. They have just modernized them. USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 provides so much expandability. Displays, power, USB, external storage. The possibilities are great.

[TheLaserCucumber]

1 hour ago, nsinnott said:

No, it really hasn't. macOS is extremely optimized for the hardware that it runs on. This is why the 12in MacBook runs so well even though it only has a dual core 1.2 GHz processor. Now as for removing the USB ports, they haven't. They have just modernized them. USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 provides so much expandability. Displays, power, USB, external storage. The possibilities are great.

But you need their 60$ adapters for everything that hasn't a USB-C Port.

And that sucks. Forcing the future isn't the right way, a compromise with like 2 USB-C and 2 USB-A would've been nice imo.

[GoodBytes]

And apparently, if you use the USB Type-C under load, like a file transfer on a USB flash drive or external drive, or capture card, or what not, your Wireless goes down.

[adityarios]

28 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

But you need their 60$ adapters for everything that hasn't a USB-C Port.

And that sucks. Forcing the future isn't the right way, a compromise with like 2 USB-C and 2 USB-A would've been nice imo.

The point of sexy laptop is lost when you have to spend few hundred dollars more on ports to get your work done, Whats the point of paying a premium. Imagine All those Mac users who used or useSD cards and various peripherals that use USB connections. Its not like all the companies will magically abandon usb for Mac's Sake

[TheLaserCucumber]

8 minutes ago, adityarios said:

The point of sexy laptop is lost when you have to spend few hundred dollars more on ports to get your work done, Whats the point of paying a premium. Imagine All those Mac users who used or useSD cards and various peripherals that use USB connections. Its not like all the companies will magically abandon usb for Mac's Sake

That's pretty much what I've said.

[VinsinityKT]

All I hear everything about MacBooks from Mac users are the same. "Well, no one uses any of the ports anyway so it saves space and money" "Hardware are extremely optimized" Well, that is where they get easy money from regular consumers not people who uses it more extensively. Like, USB drive, wireless mouse, Ethernet port, charging and moving data from their phones. It would be nice if they included a couple adapters. Probably the biggest point is we have to fork up more money for our needs. I can honestly live without a Ethernet jack.

 

I remember how it was so annoying to send a file to work on a project. Now mind you this was a 50 gb file for a project 3 months long and I had to work with a kid with a new MacBook without USB ports. We would actually get behind because he couldn't download the files fast enough because I had to email it to him and every time he did an update on the project we have to send it back and forth. His slow downloads of 5 and upload of 1. I had gotten 64 gb flash drives to make it much easier to just plug it and update the files on it but this is what we had to resort to. 

[Copuis]

1 hour ago, adityarios said:

 

Last 1 min is worth it

Came Across this video of a frustrated mac pro user, Does it really make sense of removing all USB ports?

I have been using USB ports since i have owned a computer, Unless Ultra fast wireless sharing technology comes ,

I doubt USB will go extinct

remember a time before USB, pepperidge farms remembers

and so do I, 
man, I've only had three USB keyboards, and that is only over the last 5 years 

[tatte]

57 minutes ago, VinsinityKT said:

Well, that is where they get easy money from regular consumers not people who uses it more extensively. Like, USB drive, wireless mouse, 

Uh. And what might be the standard most wireless mice use? Don't quote me on this, but bluetooth has been a standard feature of Macs for at least the past ten years. Perhaps it's only good that someone makes those regular customers think and learn, instead of letting them enjoy a "special customer" reserved mindlessness.

[VinsinityKT]

54 minutes ago, tatte said:

Uh. And what might be the standard most wireless mice use? Don't quote me on this, but bluetooth has been a standard feature of Macs for at least the past ten years. Perhaps it's only good that someone makes those regular customers think and learn, instead of letting them enjoy a "special customer" reserved mindlessness.

I like my Logitech mice and they're pretty popular. They use a USB dongle. I see a lot more people use wireless mice that has a nano receiver with it. Searching on Amazon, I have seen a lot.

[tatte]

2 hours ago, VinsinityKT said:

I like my Logitech mice and they're pretty popular. They use a USB dongle. I see a lot more people use wireless mice that has a nano receiver with it. Searching on Amazon, I have seen a lot.

Of course they do, thanks to low standards among "special consumers" most bluetooth devices not intended primarily for laptops or tablets have to come with their own bluetooth dongle, since built in bluetooth isn't really a thing among glorious Windows PCs.

[nsinnott]

11 hours ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

But you need their 60$ adapters for everything that hasn't a USB-C Port.

And that sucks. Forcing the future isn't the right way, a compromise with like 2 USB-C and 2 USB-A would've been nice imo.

You don't need THEIR adapter. There are much more functional USB-C hubs that go for around $20-30. They could have Display, SD card reader, USB-A and power connectors.

[Pendragon]

13 hours ago, Copuis said:

man, I've only had three USB keyboards, and that is only over the last 5 years 

thats just you. 

 

2 hours ago, nsinnott said:

You don't need THEIR adapter. There are much more functional USB-C hubs that go for around $20-30. They could have Display, SD card reader, USB-A and power connectors.

OH REALLY NOW. NICE JOKE. 

If you don't want to watch an hour long video. It basically just saying everything sucks. And connecting external dongles breaks functionality (like wifi??? i died when i saw attaching a dongle broke wifi functionality). Keyboard is shit. Lack of ports is annoying as fuck. 

[Dackzy]

go to the news section and see how many problems there is with the new MacBook, it is insane.

[Copuis]

16 hours ago, Pendragon said:

thats just you. 

 

it was more a point that the port while for some "has been around forever" it's not really the case, ports come and go, usb really has only been the mainstream for what, 18 odd years, and I for one stuck with ps/2 (port) when there was still PS2's (palystation) for sale

laptops have always had a lack of port support (in terms of what ports they carried) I can't see how this would be a shock (overall) and this isn't really the first time mac has pulled that sort of crap, just this time it isn't some mac only port like firewire (which never really was big in consumer stuff, but was massive, and still widely used in some pro circles)

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, Copuis said:

laptops have always had a lack of port support (in terms of what ports they carried) I can't see how this would be a shock (overall) and this isn't really the first time mac has pulled that sort of crap

the point isn't whether we've expected Mac to pull this sort of crap, it's just not good for the Macbook. You will not see USB-A disappear off real Pro devices from business lineups for another 10-15 years (look at how long VGA has been on those things, oh wait they STILL ARE), because the point of a business device is ease of use and it's ready to be used anytime anywhere, it's called legacy support. 

 

Say, you buy hdmi, usb, dongles. You go to a business meeting in a Mac friendly firm. OH WAIT THEY HAVE THUNDERBOLT 2 cause companies invested in that for the Mac enviroment. You're fucked. Can't do your presentation. Gotta waste time and chase around either for an adapter, another dongle or another laptop to send your files on, or chase for the USB. Oh wait you plug in a usb and it breaks wifi functionality LOL. That's just plain stupid. 

[Copuis]

4 hours ago, Pendragon said:

the point isn't whether we've expected Mac to pull this sort of crap, it's just not good for the Macbook. You will not see USB-A disappear off real Pro devices from business lineups for another 10-15 years (look at how long VGA has been on those things, oh wait they STILL ARE), because the point of a business device is ease of use and it's ready to be used anytime anywhere, it's called legacy support. 

 

Say, you buy hdmi, usb, dongles. You go to a business meeting in a Mac friendly firm. OH WAIT THEY HAVE THUNDERBOLT 2 cause companies invested in that for the Mac enviroment. You're fucked. Can't do your presentation. Gotta waste time and chase around either for an adapter, another dongle or another laptop to send your files on, or chase for the USB. Oh wait you plug in a usb and it breaks wifi functionality LOL. That's just plain stupid. 

okay, so displaying port are a little different than the ports we are talking about, (there is a reason that vga is still found which will kinda tie in with the next part)

now, I'm not sure if youve been to many business meetings, like with proper boardrooms etc, but there are a few points that you might not be aware of
mac friendly businesses, where there are macs on nearly all the desks etc, go into the boardroom, there will normally be a pc in the boardroom/meeting room running the AV, sometimes a mac mini, but even in the most hip of joints I've never seen a mac on space,
second, when you do the sort of meeting that requires you to bring a usb or laptop for a presentation they tell you what they have as a set up, or what connections you need, I know for myself when I was doing talks for the qld government, you would get a "for the meeting make sure any usb devices are in xyz format for use in this program, and in bringing a device, it has a standard vga or rarely hdmi to save all that hassle for that reason

most older (in terms of being around a long long time) business, government, or specialist industries will have a display/projector that is VGA, because it was hugely common, they often find that the nice wiring job done years ago in a room that might not get used often is an expense they dont need, (if the room has all the comforts and projects that image of power, and a nice clean set up where the projector is hidden, and the cables hide in a spot in the desk, that isn't going to change) 

and if there was a place that was all mac, and I mean all mac, they would have a converter for normal non cult people to use, or bluetooth

you also missed one point, any pro that needed to have ports and connections for things, wouldn't be buying this anyway, nor and IT department worth their salt, naming it a pro doesn't make it is pro
also, pro devices in use by business people who do meetings, and talks are often only buying them for wank factor, i mean there is a reason that while plain looking lenovo still has a good market share in the business space (and it isn't just because they have drain holes that make coffee spills less scary)

[Dackzy]

11 hours ago, Copuis said:

 i mean there is a reason that while plain looking lenovo still has a good market share in the business space (and it isn't just because they have drain holes that make coffee spills less scary)

You are thinking of ThinkPads. Yes the reason why they still have a huge market share, it is because they are build like fucking tanks, a MacBook looks like a cheap toy and is one, compared to a T or P series ThinkPad. They have a insane support and they make everything from the classic office PC to the high end workstation.

 

The only places I have found a lot of macs are in fashion companies, I have seen a couple of macs in manufacturing companies, but that was only a couple of people who just liked the OS more, rest had ThinkPad or Elitebook

[abazigal]

I see your criticism and raise you one rebuttal. 

http://youtu.be/NWp9k2lydtk