Minecraft Server

[Jonathan1]

Hardware Questions

Could this run a vanilla server for about 20 peolpe?

BIOSTAR A68N-2100 

8gb of cheap ddr3 memory

And a Corsair cx430 

 

[Hydrogen1803]

For a low-end server, you only need 2-4gbs. If you run mods with more than a few players I suggest dedicating up to 8 if possible. 

[Hydrogen1803]

9 minutes ago, Jonathan1 said:

Hardware Questions

Could this run a vanilla server for about 20 peolpe?

BIOSTAR A68N-2100 

8gb of cheap ddr3 memory

And a Corsair cx430 

 

 

This should be able to. 

[GDRRiley]

yeah a core 2 duo can run one for about 100 people 

[Guest]

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

[ARikozuM]

No. There's no drive.
 

[Hydrogen1803]

Just now, nzskiing said:

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

This is true, an i3 or i5 would greatly help.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, nzskiing said:

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

That isn't true. CPU will only be transcoding the server to the others and be receiving data from others. Pentiums are great for NAS's and servers due to this.

[Clanscorpia]

14 minutes ago, nzskiing said:

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

Are you stupid lol, you dont need that

[Jonathan1]

I know that set up would be fairly under powered and if I wanted mods I would probably need more, kinda like this http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tLRBr7 this should be plenty capable of functioning as a Minecraft server.

 

 

On 10/22/2016 at 9:23 PM, nzskiing said:

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

Really? That could run like 200+ people on a vanilla server!

 

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, Jonathan1 said:

I know that set up would be fairly under powered and if I wanted mods I would probably need more, kinda like this http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tLRBr7 this should be plenty capable of functioning as a Minecraft server.

 

I would just use the SOC board for now.

[Guest]

On 10/22/2016 at 9:37 PM, Clanscorpia said:

Are you stupid lol, you dont need that

I have ran servers, as soon as you go for a load of people, the cpu get taxed a lot, I was running a server on my i5 and it would still lag.

 

On 10/22/2016 at 9:43 PM, Jonathan1 said:

Really? That could run like 200+ people on a vanilla server!

 

Get a low powered i3, or hell even a pentium remember you need to run an os, whether its linux or windows, and that does take some cpu horse power.

[ssfdre38]

If you are going to do a minecraft server, the best thing to do is to use a linux server without gui. openJDK 8 will be fine to use with minecraft server and if you are going to do 20 users then 4gb of ram will be just fine. also make sure you know how to use screen to launch your minecraft server so you can leave your ssh session and not kill your server.

[GalacticRuler]

3 hours ago, nzskiing said:

Nope for 20 people I would go for an i3 or probably an i5. I woul;d also go for fast ram too not cheap ram

You don't understand Minecraft, do you? It only uses one core, two if you install Optifine. It's all about single core performance. A Pentium will run better with Minecraft than an i5.

[Jonathan1]

38 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

You don't understand Minecraft, do you? It only uses one core, two if you install Optifine. It's all about single core performance. A Pentium will run better with Minecraft than an i5.

Yep 1 fast core is better than 4 slow cores unless you're running mods.

[System Error Message]

for minecraft the specs depend on how active and how big. The bigger the world (basically the more stuff/blocks) the more ram you need. The more active players you have the faster the CPU you need. You also need fast memory so the faster the memory the better. If minecraft is not multi threaded you will be looking at a high frequency CPU instead.

 

I have my own space engineers server but its hosted on AMD piledriver. While its not the best platform for something thats computationally expensive i overclocked the CPU as far as i could and disabled power savings. The game itself runs really smoothly with some hiccups probably because AMD lacks the ram bandwidth that intel has. I run 2 instances and memory usage depends on the world. Empty space with lots of ships only uses a bit of ram while a world with lots of planets and asteroids uses a few GB of ram at start.

 

So for instances where you need memory bandwidth make sure you do not install it on a virtual platform. Use it on the host OS.

[Emmien]

I ran an FTB server on a single core Pentium 4 2.83 Ghz, and 2GB of RAM.

 

 

It never lagged, and was only limited by the internet connection.

 

It had over 20 players sometimes and was easily playable. There was a tiny noticeable difference with lots of people.

 

On 23/10/2016 at 7:11 AM, GalacticRuler said:

You don't understand Minecraft, do you? It only uses one core, two if you install Optifine. It's all about single core performance. A Pentium will run better with Minecraft than an i5.

You don't understand running servers, do you? Optifine is a client side modification. The server doesn't even know of its existence, however Minecraft doesn't manage cores well, and mainly uses one.

[TheKDub]

6 hours ago, Jonathan1 said:

Yep 1 fast core is better than 4 slow cores unless you're running mods.

 

A single fast core is better than multiple slower cores is better for minecraft in general, regardless of if you have mods or not.

 

On my Tekkit Classic server, just 30 people can easily put a thread of a Xeon E3 1231v3 at 100% usage, and since Minecraft servers only use a single thread, I need to upgrade to something more powerful soon. (Especially with seeing 60-90 players on at the same time most days)

 

If it's going to just be a vanilla server, then something like a pentium g3258 and 8GB of RAM would be fine, though if you're planning on modded, you might want to look into something with quite a bit better single thread performance like an i7 4790k or i7 6700k.

 

Also, how's your internet connection? You'll likely need at least 5Mb/s up and down to be able to handle around 20 players.

[Jonathan1]

3 hours ago, TheKDub said:

 

A single fast core is better than multiple slower cores is better for minecraft in general, regardless of if you have mods or not.

 

On my Tekkit Classic server, just 30 people can easily put a thread of a Xeon E3 1231v3 at 100% usage, and since Minecraft servers only use a single thread, I need to upgrade to something more powerful soon. (Especially with seeing 60-90 players on at the same time most days)

 

If it's going to just be a vanilla server, then something like a pentium g3258 and 8GB of RAM would be fine, though if you're planning on modded, you might want to look into something with quite a bit better single thread performance like an i7 4790k or i7 6700k.

 

Also, how's your internet connection? You'll likely need at least 5Mb/s up and down to be able to handle around 20 players.

Yea I would want to run some simple survival mods like Tinkers Construct, and agricraft.

 

[TheKDub]

29 minutes ago, Jonathan1 said:

Yea I would want to run some simple survival mods like Tinkers Construct, and agricraft.

 

 

Then you'll likely be fine with the pentium g3258, you could even overclock it a little to get some more performance out of it.

[suchamoneypit]

On 10/22/2016 at 10:43 PM, Jonathan1 said:

Really? That could run like 200+ people on a vanilla server!

 

I'd like to see your residential home internet support that.

On 10/22/2016 at 11:38 PM, nzskiing said:

I have ran servers, as soon as you go for a load of people, the cpu get taxed a lot, I was running a server on my i5 and it would still lag.

I can run a MC server with 10 people while bench-marking my CPU and not have the server lag. i3 for a simple MC server is plenty.

On 10/23/2016 at 1:59 AM, ssfdre38 said:

If you are going to do a minecraft server, the best thing to do is to use a linux server without gui. openJDK 8 will be fine to use with minecraft server and if you are going to do 20 users then 4gb of ram will be just fine. also make sure you know how to use screen to launch your minecraft server so you can leave your ssh session and not kill your server.

Thats pretty advanced for what he plans on doing. 

[Jonathan1]

2 hours ago, suchamoneypit said:

I'd like to see your residential home internet support that.

 

Thats pretty advanced for what he plans on doing. 

I could figure out the Linux part it's the internet connection that would be the problem as I have a fairly slow connection so I could only probably support 15-30 people, but that's all I need as it would be private for friends and people I meet on other servers.

[suchamoneypit]

1 hour ago, Jonathan1 said:

I could figure out the Linux part it's the internet connection that would be the problem as I have a fairly slow connection so I could only probably support 15-30 people, but that's all I need as it would be private for friends and people I meet on other servers.

what is your internet speeds?

[Jonathan1]

20 hours ago, suchamoneypit said:

what is your internet speeds?

1.02 Mbps download and 0.82 Mbps upload according to the speed test app on my phone it's pretty slow.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Jonathan1 said:

1.02 Mbps download and 0.82 Mbps upload according to the speed test app on my phone it's pretty slow.

You need to test your server not the phone.