K series for gaming?

[8951903782]

Should i buy a Intel i5-6600k with a nice motherboard or buy a i7 6600 with a little bit crappier motherboard?

Also tell me if it is easy to overclock or not as I have not form of experience of overclocking with processors before.

Is the performance boost enough to beat hyper threaded i7 6600?

Is the fps boost high that i should consider liquid cooling?

[Geoffrey]

I went with i5-6600k and the asus z170 ar because the IO shield is just aesthetically pleasing for me. But you need to define "nice" and "crappy"

Overclocking is pretty easy on the i5 6600k or in general. I just adjusted the ratio to 45 in the bios and on default voltage the system is just stable.

There are many verified stable clocks on the internet

If you are just gaming you wont benefit much from hyper threading that the i7 provides.

I can go as far as to say on cinebench I got better single core scores than the i7.

Liquid cooling for overclocking is a good idea although i do not negate some really good performing air coolers.

FPS boost depends on whether the game is CPU intensive.

The money you save could be a difference between a 1070 and 1060

[Techicolors]

i would get the i7 for the hyperthreading performance. with that something like a 212 evo will do the trick. 

[Omon_Ra]

1 minute ago, TheWildGamer_ said:

Should i buy a Intel i5-6600k with a nice motherboard or buy a i7 6600 with a little bit crappier motherboard?

Also tell me if it is easy to overclock or not as I have not form of experience of overclocking with processors before.

Is the performance boost enough to beat hyper threaded i7 6600?

Is the fps boost high that i should consider liquid cooling?

Depends on your budget and desired features of the motherboards (Z-series boards tend to have more/newer I/O). Overclocking is pretty foolproof now-a-days, with most mobo manufacturers supplying an overclocking utility to do it automagically. Hyperthreading will be useful if you're doing more 'traditional' CPU-bound tasks (video encoding, compiling code, etc) but with gaming it really doesn't show much benefit for now. Temperatures after overclocking are more of a variable as to liquid cooling (in addition to personal preference) than any FPS boost. That is largely game dependent, and most games aren't really CPU bound as it is, so don't expect huge gains from an overclocked CPU. The last thing to keep in mind with overclocking is the silicon lottery. There's always the randomness that determines the most stable voltage and frequency (in addition to other things like your PSU or the quality of the MOSFETs/chokes in the mobo) which in turn will determine the CPU temps under load.

 

Personally, I'd go with a K-part. If you're unsure of overclocking now, keep it stock. Once you learn more and feel more comfortable overclocking, then do it. If you're not overclocking, go with a solid air cooler. When you overclock and find your stable frequency/voltage, if temps are sitting too high under load with your air cooler, you could consider going to a bigger one or an AIO water cooler.

[8951903782]

Thanks guys,

I am gonna buy a i5 6600k

[Geoffrey]

6 minutes ago, Technicolors said:

i would get the i7 for the hyperthreading performance. with that something like a 212 evo will do the trick. 

Sincerely asking, how would having Hyper threading be more beneficial for gaming?

[Anir]

In long run, a k series processor will be good, as overclocking can provide a bit more milage for your graphics card upgrade. Also you can buy a non-k processor and z170 mobo and actually overclock the CPU using an older bios that was fixed later if you have the skills to do so. So I my opinion go for an overclocking CPU and mobo if it fits in the budget.

[Daniel644]

7 minutes ago, Geoffrey said:

I went with i5-6600k and the asus z170 ar because the IO shield is just aesthetically pleasing for me. But you need to define "nice" and "crappy"

Overclocking is pretty easy on the i5 6600k or in general. I just adjusted the ratio to 45 in the bios and on default voltage the system is just stable.

There are many verified stable clocks on the internet

If you are just gaming you wont benefit much from hyper threading that the i7 provides.

I can go as far as to say on cinebench I got better single core scores than the i7.

Liquid cooling for overclocking is a good idea although i do not negate some really good performing air coolers.

FPS boost depends on whether the game is CPU intensive.

The money you save could be a difference between a 1070 and 1060

If the 6600k is anything like my 6700k you DON'T want to use the default setting for your voltage, it will run up around 1.4 volts which is very bad for skylake chips.

 

3 minutes ago, Omon_Ra said:

Depends on your budget and desired features of the motherboards (Z-series boards tend to have more/newer I/O). Overclocking is pretty foolproof now-a-days, with most mobo manufacturers supplying an overclocking utility to do it automagically. Hyperthreading will be useful if you're doing more 'traditional' CPU-bound tasks (video encoding, compiling code, etc) but with gaming it really doesn't show much benefit for now. Temperatures after overclocking are more of a variable as to liquid cooling (in addition to personal preference) than any FPS boost. That is largely game dependent, and most games aren't really CPU bound as it is, so don't expect huge gains from an overclocked CPU. The last thing to keep in mind with overclocking is the silicon lottery. There's always the randomness that determines the most stable voltage and frequency (in addition to other things like your PSU or the quality of the MOSFETs/chokes in the mobo) which in turn will determine the CPU temps under load.

 

Personally, I'd go with a K-part. If you're unsure of overclocking now, keep it stock. Once you learn more and feel more comfortable overclocking, then do it. If you're not overclocking, go with a solid air cooler. When you overclock and find your stable frequency/voltage, if temps are sitting too high under load with your air cooler, you could consider going to a bigger one or an AIO water cooler.

NEVER use the automatic overclock utilities, you'll end up with a much higher voltage then you need and it will likely be higher then the generally considered "safe voltage" of 1.35 since skylake is rated to like 1.4. higher voltage generates more heat for the same clock speed, best do things manually and look at the better temps and lower voltage you can achieve.

[Geoffrey]

Just now, Daniel644 said:

If the 6600k is anything like my 6700k you DON'T want to use the default setting for your voltage, it will run up around 1.4 volts which is very bad for skylake chips.

 

NEVER use the automatic overclock utilities, you'll end up with a much higher voltage then you need and it will likely be higher then the generally considered "safe voltage" of 1.35 since skylake is rated to like 1.4. higher voltage generates more heat for the same clock speed, best do things manually and look at the better temps and lower voltage you can achieve.

YES! I was worried about that and it actually happened to me I got 1.5V during my ANSYS simulation.

That's why I said default rather than AUTO. LOL

 

[Omon_Ra]

1 minute ago, Daniel644 said:

NEVER use the automatic overclock utilities, you'll end up with a much higher voltage then you need and it will likely be higher then the generally considered "safe voltage" of 1.35 since skylake is rated to like 1.4. higher voltage generates more heat for the same clock speed, best do things manually and look at the better temps and lower voltage you can achieve.

Eh, it depends I suppose. I kept an eye on the ASUS overclocking thing (also manually set the max voltage during OC'ing to 1.3v for my 5930K) during it to make sure it didn't overvolt or do anything crazy. Running it once to see what it gives you is not a bad place to start for your manual overclocking though; I did that and it cut a lot of time out. Having said that, I got rid of all of the ASUS AI suite junk. It was pretty annoying.

[Geoffrey]

Just now, Omon_Ra said:

Eh, it depends I suppose. I kept an eye on the ASUS overclocking thing (also manually set the max voltage during OC'ing to 1.3v for my 5930K) during it to make sure it didn't overvolt or do anything crazy. Running it once to see what it gives you is not a bad place to start for your manual overclocking though; I did that and it cut a lot of time out. Having said that, I got rid of all of the ASUS AI suite junk. It was pretty annoying.

If you push the cpu a little harder it will go to higher voltages. As for ASUS AI suite... I totally agree it's rubbish... the fan auto tune nearly destroyed my cpu