Gaming PC first build

[live2game]

About to do my first custom PC build and just had a few questions such as thoughts on parts chose for one. Also wandering what the odds are of actually receiving a DOA or bad part that would need returning? On top of compatibility and other choices I also went with parts that seemed to be top rated and few to none on cons about the items being bad or down right DOA. I also would like to know if there is a preference on where to go to for the parts I am looking for a place that has easy return process and would hopefully pay for shipping back in event the item was bad. Was considering amazon and prime or newegg and premier acount. Below is a link to my chosen build any and all input is welcome and yes the PSU I know is slightly overkill for whats going in that but I figured if I chose to add another video card down the line I would be well covered in power department. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwPn2R

[suchamoneypit]

7 minutes ago, live2game said:

About to do my first custom PC build and just had a few questions such as thoughts on parts chose for one. Also wandering what the odds are of actually receiving a DOA or bad part that would need returning? On top of compatibility and other choices I also went with parts that seemed to be top rated and few to none on cons about the items being bad or down right DOA. I also would like to know if there is a preference on where to go to for the parts I am looking for a place that has easy return process and would hopefully pay for shipping back in event the item was bad. Was considering amazon and prime or newegg and premier acount. Below is a link to my chosen build any and all input is welcome and yes the PSU I know is slightly overkill for whats going in that but I figured if I chose to add another video card down the line I would be well covered in power department. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwPn2R

seems like a good all around build. What are you using it for (just gaming?)? The 6700k might be overkill if you are just gaming or if you aren't going to be overclocking the CPU. A good downgrade would be a 6600k if you were going to overclock, a 6500 if not. As for DOA, There really isn't any brand that sticks out and you'd want to avoid (although I have gotten 2 MSI 7970 Lightnings that died 1 month later). DOA is not super common, I highly doubt you would run into that problem. In the case you do, you would probably go to where you bought it from, or go through the manufacturer and do an RMA. 

 

It might be worth getting a Samsung 850 SSD too, those are some of the best and most reliable. Also a DVD writer is pretty unnecessary. Unless you actually still have dvds to play, you can just use a USB to install the OS.

 

EDIT: also that case seems really expensive for what it is.

[GeorgeKellow]

Buy windows from g2a or something 

[WkdPaul]

Moved to new builds and planning

[Alaa]

22 minutes ago, live2game said:

About to do my first custom PC build and just had a few questions such as thoughts on parts chose for one. Also wandering what the odds are of actually receiving a DOA or bad part that would need returning? On top of compatibility and other choices I also went with parts that seemed to be top rated and few to none on cons about the items being bad or down right DOA. I also would like to know if there is a preference on where to go to for the parts I am looking for a place that has easy return process and would hopefully pay for shipping back in event the item was bad. Was considering amazon and prime or newegg and premier acount. Below is a link to my chosen build any and all input is welcome and yes the PSU I know is slightly overkill for whats going in that but I figured if I chose to add another video card down the line I would be well covered in power department. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TwPn2R

Just saying that the CPU is a bit overkill for the rig, and if you wanna SLI the 1070 just dont buy a 1080 instead with a less watage PSU

[live2game]

1 minute ago, Alaa said:

Just saying that the CPU is a bit overkill for the rig, and if you wanna SLI the 1070 just dont buy a 1080 instead with a less watage PSU

Well going with a single 1070 now due to cost was thinking of maybe doing SLI when the 1070's drop in price a bit. Tho im sure at that point 1080's should be lower as well. thanks for the food for thought.

[Zyndo]

37 minutes ago, live2game said:

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Looks like you have a good black and white theme going in your system there. A few recommendations to be made here..

 

1. Get the Cryorig H7 cooler. its not that much more money, but its cooler, quieter, and matches extremely well with your black/white theme. definitely the better way to go than the hyper 212 if you can afford it. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

2. If you are just gaming, get a 2x8 kit instead of a 2x16 kit of RAM. no game on the market today well performs better even with 16GB instead of 8GB (but its always nice to have headroom) let alone 32GB instead of 16GB (a totally unnecessary amount of headroom, your games will never be able to take advantage of that much RAM in this computer's lifespan).

3. Switch your HDD to a MX300. its going to be much cheaper and better performing with higher capacity and a longer MTBF. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rrvZxr/crucial-mx300-275gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd1

3.5 Also, you probably do not need a black drive. Its your money you can do what you want, but in the 1TB capacity the WD black drive isn't all that much better or faster than a blue drive, and its a lot more money. I would recommend just taking the blue drive (or a similar offering from another company).

4. take some of the money you've saved on your SSD and your memory and use to to get a better 1070 like the EVGA FTW 1070. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pshj4D/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-ftw-gaming-acx-30-video-card-08g-p4-6276-kr

5. The case is a bit pricey for your needs, but if you really like that case then no big deal. Its your money and cases are largely an aesthetic decision for most people.

 

EDIT: (changed the RAM, accidentally added the wrong RAM to the first part list)Your modified build looks something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gHWbpb

This should perform a bit better but cost a fair amount less.

33 minutes ago, suchamoneypit said:

The 6700k might be overkill if you are just gaming or if you aren't going to be overclocking the CPU. A good downgrade would be a 6600k if you were going to overclock, a 6500 if not.

If you are using this build for gaming, his hardware needs are going to be solely based on his monitor. if hes going to be running a 1080p 60hz panel, then you're right that he doesn't need anything more than an i5 6500 or 6600 (realistically in games today even an i3 6100 is enough for that). but if he wantx to be doing 144hz gaming, an i5 6600k can struggle with getting that many fps in some of the newer CPU intensive games on the market, and that doesn't account for going forward. in these scenarios a 6700k performs a bit better still. So before we go judging him about what hardware he does or doesn't need, we need to know about what resolution and refresh rate he is going to be using.

[suchamoneypit]

Just now, Zyndo said:

 

If you are using this build for gaming, his hardware needs are going to be solely based on his monitor. if hes going to be running a 1080p 60hz panel, then you're right that he doesn't need anything more than an i5 6500 or 6600 (realistically in games today even an i3 6100 is enough for that). So before we go judging him about what hardware he does or doesn't need, we need to know about what resolution and refresh rate he is going to be using.

Your processor has nothing to do with your monitor's resolution... (unless its reaaalllly slow or your using iGPU). Thats your GPU; and he is going with a 1070, more than enough.

[Zyndo]

Just now, suchamoneypit said:

Your processor has nothing to do with your monitor's resolution... (unless its reaaalllly slow or your using iGPU). Thats your GPU; and he is going with a 1070, more than enough.

CPU usage does go up a tad with resolution, but the primary thing I was talking about is framerate (144hz). CPU usage goes WAY up with framerate.

[suchamoneypit]

2 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

CPU usage does go up a tad with resolution, but the primary thing I was talking about is framerate (144hz). CPU usage goes WAY up with framerate.

I mean my friend's 3570k plays at 1080p max graphics with a 144hz monitor without anything close to a CPU bottleneck (paired with a 970). It certainly wouldn't happen with a 6500/6600k imo.

[Zyndo]

Just now, suchamoneypit said:

I mean my friend's 3570k plays at 1080p max graphics with a 144hz monitor without anything close to a CPU bottleneck (paired with a 970). It certainly wouldn't happen with a 6500/6600k imo.

a lot of games run at or well above 144hz on the 6600k, but not all of them. Its entirely dependent on the game. Some games/some scenarios and recent releases are too heavy for a 6600k to really get those framerates up there. I'm not saying a 6600k is a bad investment by any means, and it will do an excellent job of anything your throw at it. its not a bad chip in inadequate by any standard I would measure it by. That being said there ARE benefits in certain games to be had for having a 6700k.  You can see some pretty meaningful performance gains in the right games with a 6700k compared to a 6600k (and games are only going to become more demanding going forward, and more games are going to be scaling better with 4+ available threads going forward as well).

 

All I'm saying is there is a time for an i5, and a time for an i7, even when talking about just gaming. if he is not restrained by budget, then a 6700k is a fine investment to make.