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VPN Logs?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I am using OpenVPN to host a VPN on a VPS and when I connect it spits out a log file to my device with the details of encryption, signing, and so on. Are these also saved on the server as well?

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Good question. I would assume, yes. Reason being that encryption has to be encoded with an algorithm (likely at the server) and then decoded with the solution to the algorithm (at your PC). The only way to know how to break the code would be to know the solution. Would it not?

 

Good question, though. I don't know to be honest.

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I believe the answer is yes and that it is in the same directory as the server.conf file. It is called openvpn-status.log by default.

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20 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

I believe the answer is yes and that it is in the same directory as the server.conf file. It is called openvpn-status.log by default.

Any way to disable it or make it not create logs? I could make a script that deletes it every hour or something like that.

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10 hours ago, tt2468 said:

Make a cron job that just runs the rm command?

That would work 

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18 hours ago, tt2468 said:

Make a cron job that just runs the rm command?

I found this but what does it mean?

http://hack.training/how-to-disable-logs-in-openvpn-for-a-logless-vpn/

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Just a quick question here, I use PureVPN server and it is mentioned on their website that they have strict no logs policy. Also I have confirmed that with their customer service as well. My office related work is of discrete nature and involves financial transactions so in the light of the answers above regarding OpenVPN keeping the logs policy, does that mean should I be worried about my privacy? 

It might be better to start a new thread, if you haven't already.

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Just a quick question here, I use PureVPN server and it is mentioned on their website that they have strict no logs policy. Also I have confirmed that with their customer service as well. My office related work is of discrete nature and involves financial transactions so in the light of the answers above regarding OpenVPN keeping the logs policy, does that mean should I be worried about my privacy? 

I own everything. I rented a VPS and installed OpenVPN on it. All logs are only seen by me and I am the only one with the login. I also have full control. So I can change all settings and have infinate users on it. The only reason I want to disable logs are they are starting to fill up space and I don't know if the company hosting the VPS has admin access to my VM. Which I assume they do.

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I own everything. I rented a VPS and installed OpenVPN on it. All logs are only seen by me and I am the only one with the login. I also have full control. So I can change all settings and have infinate users on it. The only reason I want to disable logs are they are starting to fill up space and I don't know if the company hosting the VPS has admin access to my VM. Which I assume they do.

To be honest, they would probably be sent the same log as it is created. I wouldn't worry too much, though, as their business relies on discretion (unless they have a warrant for you and have to dump your logs, if possible).

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2 hours ago, ARikozuM said:

To be honest, they would probably be sent the same log as it is created. I wouldn't worry too much, though, as their business relies on discretion (unless they have a warrant for you and have to dump your logs, if possible).

Yea what stole them when the FBI comes. Not saying they would but the NSA already probably has backdoors and keys for everything we think is secure.

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On 10/8/2016 at 1:32 AM, SamStrecker said:

I found this but what does it mean?

http://hack.training/how-to-disable-logs-in-openvpn-for-a-logless-vpn/

You edit the server.conf file to do the following:

 

log /dev/null means your log files are saved to null device. In real world this means they will not be saved.

 

status /dev/null probably means a status log will be saved to null device. Same applies as before.

 

verb from 3 to 0 would probably mean the verbosity of whatnot. I'm not familiar with OpenVPN configs but this is pretty straight forward if you're conf-savvy.

 

 

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16 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I own everything. I rented a VPS and installed OpenVPN on it. All logs are only seen by me and I am the only one with the login. I also have full control. So I can change all settings and have infinate users on it. The only reason I want to disable logs are they are starting to fill up space and I don't know if the company hosting the VPS has admin access to my VM. Which I assume they do.

Your provider can most probably see your machine, and they might be able to log in depending on what you bought. That doesn't mean they can log stuff in any meaningful way unless they do it via processes running on your virtual machine.

 

If you have logs on your machine and your provider takes a snapshot of your VM, the logs get saved.

Don't have logs on your machine. Do the /dev/null treatment.

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7 hours ago, U.Ho said:

Your provider can most probably see your machine, and they might be able to log in depending on what you bought. That doesn't mean they can log stuff in any meaningful way unless they do it via processes running on your virtual machine.

 

If you have logs on your machine and your provider takes a snapshot of your VM, the logs get saved.

Don't have logs on your machine. Do the /dev/null treatment.

I am also using SHA1 with HMAC with TLS auth for the encryption keys so is that enough? I also want to change to 256bit encryption not 128bit or 192bit. Do you know how or is it not needed?

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9 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I am also using SHA1 with HMAC with TLS auth for the encryption keys so is that enough? I also want to change to 256bit encryption not 128bit or 192bit. Do you know how or is it not needed?

Well this depends on what you want to encrypt against. TLS1.0 is not as good as TLS1.2 which I would recommend. Thing is, unless you're NSA, you probably won't even wanna try to break the encryption since there's so slim chance there's any interesting traffic (mind the pun you IPSec-wizards, I mean interesting to a malicious 3rd party) in the tunnel. It's like picking a second any second to look into a mailbox of your choice, but you have to first pick a damn grandmaster-level lock.

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2 hours ago, U.Ho said:

Well this depends on what you want to encrypt against. TLS1.0 is not as good as TLS1.2 which I would recommend. Thing is, unless you're NSA, you probably won't even wanna try to break the encryption since there's so slim chance there's any interesting traffic (mind the pun you IPSec-wizards, I mean interesting to a malicious 3rd party) in the tunnel. It's like picking a second any second to look into a mailbox of your choice, but you have to first pick a damn grandmaster-level lock.

Alright. I guess I'll just delete the logs and move on

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