Gaming i5 vs i7 same generation

[jjohnthedon1]

I no this has been done to death in the past but I want to no how it stands as of today

is it beneficial to have a i7 over i5 for gaming

 

144hz

1440p

sli 980ti

16gb ram 

[tlink]

yes, i5 6600k is known to bottleneck a 1060 on high fps/refreshrate gaming IN SOME GAMES. unless you don't want to achieve >80fps its needed that you buy an i7 that is better than the i5 6600k. bottlenecks ive seen are witcher 3 and gta V

[Imakuni]

3 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

I no this has been done to death in the past but I want to no how it stands as of today

is it beneficial to have a i7 over i5 for gaming

 

144hz

1440p

sli 980ti

16gb ram 

High refresh gaming? SLI? Yeah, you need as good of a CPU as you can possibly get. Get the i7 if you can.

[Praesi]

Talking of bottleneck with a 6600k is funny. Sometimes i wonder what people think a bottleneck is.

[jjohnthedon1]

Just now, Praesi said:

Talking of bottleneck with a 6600k is funny. Sometimes i wonder what people think a bottleneck is.

Well u want ur gpu to bottleneck when gaming so if the cpu stops ur gpu from being pegged at 99 percent usage u have a bottleneck 

[Praesi]

19 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Well u want ur gpu to bottleneck when gaming so if the cpu stops ur gpu from being pegged at 99 percent usage u have a bottleneck 

I know what a bottleneck is. Saying the 6600k would bottleneck a 1060 is a fairytale. Alot of mystic bottlenecks like this haunt LTT these Days.

[xAcid9]

Depend if the game will utilize that extra threads, if the game only use 4 cores then a higher clock 6600k is better than a lower clock 6700k.

[HKZeroFive]

I find it ridiculous how people think i7s don't yield any further performance gains over i5s. If you have the money, there's no harm in spending the extra to get the extra performance and stability the i7 offers.

 

For 144Hz gaming, you'll definitely benefit from a i7. Hell, even a i7 6700K bottlenecks two GTX 980Tis at 1440p in games such as The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4.

[jjohnthedon1]

4 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

I find it ridiculous how people think i7s don't yield any further performance gains over i5s. If you have the money, there's no harm in spending the extra to get the extra performance and stability the i7 offers.

 

For 144Hz gaming, you'll definitely benefit from a i7. Hell, even a i7 6700K bottlenecks two GTX 980Tis at 1440p in games such as The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4.

I agree but iv never had cpu bottleneck in witcher 3 my 980tis stay at 99 percent usage just mediocre scaling in that game 

[HKZeroFive]

1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

I agree but iv never had cpu bottleneck in witcher 3 my 980tis stay at 99 percent usage just mediocre scaling in that game 

Is that with ultra settings and Hairworks on?

[jjohnthedon1]

46 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Is that with ultra settings and Hairworks on?

Ye man hair works at aa2 tho because I can't see the difference but still hair works on 

[HKZeroFive]

43 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Ye man hair works at aa2 tho because I can't see the difference but still hair works on 

Alright. I'll look deeper into it because these results contradict Techspot's own benchmarks where a i7 6700K didn't bottleneck a single GTX 980Ti while it did when there were two.

[DunePilot]

You may notice a difference when....

 

1. Streaming

2. Background processes (i.e. Chrome, recording software, etc...)

3. Higher minimum FPS

 

That's a cut and dry answer.... if I was running SLI I sure wouldn't skimp $80-100 to not double up on my logical threads.

[jjohnthedon1]

55 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Alright. I'll look deeper into it because these results contradict Techspot's own benchmarks where a i7 6700K didn't bottleneck a single GTX 980Ti while it did when there were two.

They running stock or oc ? Cause I'm at 4.8 on all cores now and cache at 4.6 

[HKZeroFive]

Just now, jjohnthedon1 said:

They running stock or oc ? Cause I'm at 4.8 on all cores now and cache at 4.6 

Overclocked to 4.5GHz.

[belfouf]

my i5 6600K + 980 ti build outperforms most i7 + 980 ti on 3Dmark 

 

what I mean :

higher graphic score (mine 21400)

lower physics score (of course, less cores, still 11K)

higher combined score (9900)

 

where is my bottleneck ? 80-120 fps @2K on all games (even 4K on older ones) except most demending ones (60 on witcher 3)

[jjohnthedon1]

2 hours ago, belfouf said:

my i5 6600K + 980 ti build outperforms most i7 + 980 ti on 3Dmark 

 

what I mean :

higher graphic score (mine 21400)

lower physics score (of course, less cores, still 11K)

higher combined score (9900)

 

where is my bottleneck ? 80-120 fps @2K on all games (even 4K on older ones) except most demending ones (60 on witcher 3)

What are your overclockis 

[belfouf]

7 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

What are your overclockis 

i5 6600K @4,5 @1,275v (100x45)

msi gaming 980ti @+150 core +500 memory +87mv (watercooled)

[jjohnthedon1]

22 minutes ago, belfouf said:

i5 6600K @4,5 @1,275v (100x45)

msi gaming 980ti @+150 core +500 memory +87mv (watercooled)

Specifically if bottleneck in gta v and the witcher 3 and fallout 4 as it been proven many times more corse make a difference 

and my original question wasn't the top i5 vs the lowest i7 

[IrshaadH]

I honestly have no idea how some of you guys are seeing bottlenecks in the Witcher 3 and GTA V.  I'm rocking a 3570K OC'd to 4.2Ghz and have yet to see my CPU maxed in TW3 in any region.  The only time I see GTA V slow down is when driving through offroad areas with the grass quality setting at ultra.

[typographie]

17 minutes ago, IrshaadH said:

I honestly have no idea how some of you guys are seeing bottlenecks in the Witcher 3 and GTA V.  I'm rocking a 3570K OC'd to 4.2Ghz and have yet to see my CPU maxed in TW3 in any region.  The only time I see GTA V slow down is when driving through offroad areas with the grass quality setting at ultra.

If you uncap the framerate, use a video card capable of reaching 80+ FPS, and run around in Novigrad staring at GPU/CPU usage meters, you can usually find that once over 70 FPS or so, the i7 adds another 0–10 FPS on top of a same-gen, same clock speed i5. Similar results can be found in GTA V.

 

However, while that's "a difference" in favor of the i7 (I've seen similar differences from using very high-speed DDR4, fyi), I'm not sure it's a relevant one to most people. For those with 60 Hz displays, the i5 will hit 60 and stay at 60 without question. For those with 144 Hz displays, neither CPU (and probably no CPU available) is getting there in those games. In games where the i7 can reach 144 FPS, the i5 is still usually just a few FPS behind. So for $100 difference, I'm still not convinced it's the best use of your budget in a gaming system.