Advice needed for a purchase

[IoH]

Ello Ello

  I'm currently in the processes of looking for a laptop and I could use some help from people who know more than me  , The laptop I'm currently looking into is Lenovo Yoga 500 (link : http://tinyurl.com/jxddfrk, With that said that is my price range , up to 400 eur or so. I know its not much to work with but that's student life for ya  .

   Cheers in advance for any response

            -IoH 

[Tusk2435]

5 minutes ago, IoH said:

Ello Ello

  I'm currently in the processes of looking for a laptop and I could use some help from people who know more than me  , The laptop I'm currently looking into is Lenovo Yoga 500 (link : http://tinyurl.com/jxddfrk, With that said that is my price range , up to 400 eur or so. I know its not much to work with but that's student life for ya  .

   Cheers in advance for any response

            -IoH 

Seeing it has an AMD CPU i'm going to tell you right off the battery is going to drain immediately and it's going to run pretty hot. What's the use case scenario (what are you planning to do with it)? Are there some particular features you need (touch screen, etc)?

[IoH]

Just now, LionSpeck said:

Seeing it has an AMD CPU i'm going to tell you right off the battery is going to drain immediately and it's going to run pretty hot. What's the use case scenario (what are you planning to do with it)? Are there some particular features you need (touch screen, etc)?

It would be essentially for college ( Office work for projects , coding java , web design etc..) and light gaming, I'd like touch screen but not too fussed about it tbh

[Dackzy]

7 minutes ago, LionSpeck said:

Seeing it has an AMD CPU i'm going to tell you right off the battery is going to drain immediately and it's going to run pretty hot. What's the use case scenario (what are you planning to do with it)? Are there some particular features you need (touch screen, etc)?

please tell me why, because that is just pure BS. That CPU is not a hot CPU

[Tusk2435]

That CPU isn't hot if you don't stress it, that's true, but it's not power efficient at all anyways. If what you aim for is school work (office, web design, programming, etc) you probably need a battery that lasts long, therefore my first hint is an Intel CPU.

[IoH]

Just now, LionSpeck said:

That CPU isn't hot if you don't stress it, that's true, but it's not power efficient at all. If what you aim for is school work (office, web design, programming, etc) you probably need a battery that lasts long, therefore my first hint is an Intel CPU.

It wouldn't be too much of an issue because I'd have access to a plug ,there is a intel version however (link :  http://tinyurl.com/jf83koz )

[Tusk2435]

1 minute ago, IoH said:

It wouldn't be too much of an issue because I'd have access to a plug ,there is a intel version however (link :  http://tinyurl.com/jf83koz )

8 GBs of RAM I would say is plenty, but the best you can get with a Celeron is web navigation and that's probably it. I recently suggested an ASUS X540S and installed Linux on it, but with such a CPU you can forget about gaming. Totally. I'm searching for an i3 or maybe an older or refurbished i5, which are going to give you plenty for school work and enough for light gaming.

[IoH]

1 minute ago, LionSpeck said:

8 GBs of RAM I would say is plenty, but the best you can get with a Celeron is web navigation and that's probably it. I recently suggested an ASUS X540S and installed Linux on it, but with such a CPU you can forget about gaming. Totally. I'm searching for an i3 or maybe an older or refurbished i5, which are going to give you plenty for school work and enough for light gaming.

Such as this one :  http://tinyurl.com/j9p2d43 ???

[Dackzy]

6 minutes ago, LionSpeck said:

That CPU isn't hot if you don't stress it, that's true, but it's not power efficient at all anyways. If what you aim for is school work (office, web design, programming, etc) you probably need a battery that lasts long, therefore my first hint is an Intel CPU.

wrong, just wrong. That CPU is 12-25w or 12-35w depending on what A8 they put in it, Then it comes down to what Lenovo has sat the max to, most likely 12W. A intel ULV chip is 15w oh shit 3w more.

[Dackzy]

OP that AMD version would wreck any of those intel models, a pentium is useless and a ULV i3 is also just a joke

[IoH]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

OP that AMD version would wreck any of those intel models, a pentium is useless and a ULV i3 is also just a joke

So worth the price point ? Or is there a better solution?

[Tusk2435]

3 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

wrong, just wrong. That CPU is 12-25w or 12-35w depending on what A8 they put in it, Then it comes down to what Lenovo has sat the max to, most likely 12W. A intel ULV chip is 15w oh shit 3w more.

 

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

OP that AMD version would wreck any of those intel models, a pentium is useless and a ULV i3 is also just a joke

The problem I have with suggesting AMD CPUs isn't the nominal TDP, it is that they are CONSTANTLY hitting that consumption, while the Intel CPUs are newer and better optimized, so you can squeeze more performance out of them at a cost of less power and heat. Also they have better power saving modes and optimizations (I have tried C6 and C1E from AMD and they're pretty much nothing compared to Intel CPUs' ones).
This is why I still suggest Intel.

[Dackzy]

Just now, IoH said:

So worth the price point ? Or is there a better solution?

The AMD version is the better version, you would have to get a i5 ULV to get something that is better, but if a i3 version is so expensive then there is no way you can get a i5 model

[Tusk2435]

2 minutes ago, IoH said:

So worth the price point ? Or is there a better solution?

From a performance point of view you'll get most out of an AMD chip for sure at that price point, but if you need to be indipendent from the power outlet, I wouldn't consider AMD.

[Tusk2435]

1 minute ago, Dackzy said:

The AMD version is the better version, you would have to get a i5 ULV to get something that is better, but if a i3 version is so expensive then there is no way you can get a i5 model

Refurbished is the key. I think. My brother got an Acer i5 Haswell refurbished for around 400-500 bucks that's ULV and it's such a huge value. The problem is you can't ALWAYS find a refurbished or used version of the laptop you want.

[Dackzy]

Just now, LionSpeck said:

Refurbished is the key. I think. My brother got an Acer i5 Haswell refurbished for around 400-500 bucks that's ULV and it's such a huge value. The problem is you can't ALWAYS find a refurbished or used version of the laptop you want.

sure, just don't buy Acer.

 

4 minutes ago, LionSpeck said:

From a performance point of view you'll get most out of an AMD chip for sure at that price point, but if you need to be indipendent from the power outlet, I wouldn't consider AMD.

anything above the pentium gives him 2.5-4 hours battery life, depending on use and screen brightness, it has nothing to do with the AMD CPU, it uses the same amount of power as a Intel ULV CPU. A intel ULV CPU can also use 25w, not just 15w at max, this is again up to the maker of the laptop.

[Tusk2435]

My brother got an Acer E1 572G i5 version refurbished from ePrice. Unfortunately it's Acer and unfortunately it's not available anymore.
But again, if you don't need to be indipendent from the power outlet, just go for the AMD, it gives you better performance for the price point, that's for sure.

[IoH]

 

Cheers to both of you so , I'll be heavily considering getting this now , I'll let it sit for the moment in case anyone got suggestions

[bewilderedboy]

I just got the Lenovo ideapad 310 with AMD 7th gen A10 with radeon R5 graphics for £350 UK. This would suit most/all your needs

[IoH]

51 minutes ago, bewilderedboy said:

I just got the Lenovo ideapad 310 with AMD 7th gen A10 with radeon R5 graphics for £350 UK. This would suit most/all your needs

That's 15" which is sorta big for me, I'm going 14" / 13.3"