RX 470 for old games good idea?

[AssAss1n]

I am planning to buy RX 470, I might pair it with i3 4150. 

 

First question --- Will it bottleneck much? I dont want to experience slutters.

Second question --- Will I have issues with old games? I mean games made in 2006-2016

 

AMD(2 or 3 series users) users I want to ask you, do you have issues with old games?

[RuLeZ]

Yes, it will botteneck a lot, I would buy it anyway and upgrade the CPU in the future.

Will run even new games very nice, you just need to upgrade the CPU, and without the upgrade, probably most games will run ok anyway.

[othertomperson]

1 minute ago, RuLeZ said:

Yes, it will botteneck a lot, I would buy it anyway and upgrade the CPU in the future.

Will run even new games very nice, you just need to upgrade the CPU, and without the upgrade, probably most games will run ok anyway.

Please don't buy a brand new CPU to prevent decade old games from "bottlenecking" at 60 hz. This is terrible advice.

[RuLeZ]

Just now, othertomperson said:

Please don't buy a brand new CPU to prevent decade old games from "bottlenecking" at 60 hz. This is terrible advice.

He said games made in 2006-2016, try to play Farcry 4 and GTA V with a haswell i3 3,5Ghz.

[AssAss1n]

Just now, othertomperson said:

Please don't buy a brand new CPU to prevent decade old games from "bottlenecking" at 60 hz. This is terrible advice.

I also plan to play new games aswell, I just like to go back and enjoy games which helped me going into gaming. I want to ask AMD users if they have experienced serious problems with older games, I have seen few people complaining about Prototype 2 issues with AMD, and I want to know if there are more

[ThinkWithPortals]

7 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

He said games made in 2006-2016, try to play Farcry 4 and GTA V with a haswell i3 3,5Ghz.

 

 

That's an i3 4150 and a GTX 950 playing DOOM on high settings 1080p at 45-60fps. Given that OP is getting an RX 470 his build should do better than that.

A Haswell i3 is not ideal for today's AAA games but it's absolutely doable.

[othertomperson]

1 minute ago, RuLeZ said:

He said games made in 2006-2016, try to play Farcry 4 and GTA V with a haswell i3 3,5Ghz.

 

Just now, AssAss1n said:

I also plan to play new games aswell, I just like to go back and enjoy games which helped me going into gaming. I want to ask AMD users if they have experienced serious problems with older games, I have seen few people complaining about Prototype 2 issues with AMD, and I want to know if there are more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LoYCdWDuNE

 

You decide if those framerates are acceptable.

[RuLeZ]

3 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

 

 

That's an i3 4150 and a GTX 950 playing DOOM on high settings 1080p at 45-60fps. Given that OP is getting an RX 470 his build should do better than that.

A Haswell i3 is not ideal for today's AAA games but it's absolutely doable.

GTX 950 is a WAY weaker card, RX 470 is more comparable to the GTX 970, and one game proves nothing, I just saying that it will botteneck, doesnt mean that his CPU is bad, just means that if he had a better CPU, would have better performance.

[AssAss1n]

1 minute ago, othertomperson said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LoYCdWDuNE

 

You decide if those framerates are acceptable.

In my opinion if game isn't first person shooter, or racing, more than 35fps is acceptable and playable for me. I know about GTA V, it has great optimization. Even Far Cry 4 runs well on i3's, Look If bottleneck will be like 90% usage, I am fine with that as long I have 60fps, beyond that I actually wont care (Exept First person shooters) because my monitor is only 60hz.

 

I just want to know how games run on Amd systems

[ThinkWithPortals]

1 minute ago, RuLeZ said:

GTX 950 is a WAY weaker card, RX 470 is more comparable to the GTX 970, and one game proves nothing, I just saying that it will botteneck, doesnt mean that his CPU is bad, just means that if he had a better CPU, would have better performance.

The 4150 will only be a bottleneck in heavily-CPU biased games. In others the bottleneck would be minor (if it exists at all) and the frame rate would still be totally playable. It may only be a dual-core but the hyperthreading helps a lot, more than you'd think.

[RuLeZ]

5 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LoYCdWDuNE

 

You decide if those framerates are acceptable.

It went below 40fps some times, personally that would kill the experience for me, I notice really easy frame drops that low, but not everybody feels the same about it.

[SLAYR]

 

5 minutes ago, RuLeZ said:

GTX 950 is a WAY weaker card, RX 470 is more comparable to the GTX 970, and one game proves nothing, I just saying that it will botteneck, doesnt mean that his CPU is bad, just means that if he had a better CPU, would have better performance.

Just NO, the 470 isn't comperable to a 970, then why would a 480 exist? The 480 has the performance of a 970, the 470 is more comperable to a 960/380.

[othertomperson]

2 minutes ago, AssAss1n said:

In my opinion if game isn't first person shooter, or racing, more than 35fps is acceptable and playable for me. I know about GTA V, it has great optimization. Even Far Cry 4 runs well on i3's, Look If bottleneck will be like 90% usage, I am fine with that as long I have 60fps, beyond that I actually wont care (Exept First person shooters) because my monitor is only 60hz.

 

I just want to know how games run on Amd systems

As far as the GPU goes, it doesn't really matter. In new games the drivers aren't going to be as good as Nivdia, but they will eventually become better than Nvidia's. (This is true of Dx11, it's not as true with Vulkan and Dx12 where driver overhead isn't as much of a thing). For old games the top end cards of their age weren't as powerful as the 470 -- particularly when you're getting closer to he 2006 side of things than the 2016. The only caveat here is that sometimes resolution can become an unexpected issue. For example the original Crysis became really difficult to run again when the whole 1080p thing happened, and again with 4K. You might see engine optimisation issues when it comes to running some games that should be a lot easier to run than they are at modern resolutions, but this is relatively rare. Saints Row 3 runs at 4K extremely easily these days, as does Knights of the Old Republic (if you can get the UI to scale...)

[AssAss1n]

I saw few reviews and actually RX 470 is better than 380X, and in some games has same framerate as 970

[ThinkWithPortals]

9 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

 

Just NO, the 470 isn't comperable to a 970, then why would a 480 exist? The 480 has the performance of a 970, the 470 is more comperable to a 960/380.

That's not strictly speaking true. An aftermarket custom-cooled 470 keeps up with the reference 970. Have you actually read any benchmarks?

[RuLeZ]

4 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

 

Just NO, the 470 isn't comperable to a 970, then why would a 480 exist? The 480 has the performance of a 970, the 470 is more comperable to a 960/380.

Comparable to the GTX 960? Please search before posting about it.

For some reason AMD made the RX 470 really close to the RX 480 and GTX 970. Maybe they should have named them RX 480X and RX 480, but I am not from AMD marketing.

 

[AssAss1n]

1 minute ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

That's not strictly speaking true. An aftermarket custom-cooled 470 keeps up with the reference 970.

I see you have AMD GPU, I want to ask you if you ever has issues with games? I am Nvidia user, I have Nvidia 9600GT. 

 

Wanted to buy GTX 1060, but costs 250$, RX 480 200$. I am searching for good 150$ GPU, wanted to  see GTX 1050 now, but looks like it won't be released until december

[ThinkWithPortals]

Just now, AssAss1n said:

I see you have AMD GPU, I want to ask you if you ever has issues with games? I am Nvidia user, I have Nvidia 9600GT. 

No issues to report. Works on older games just fine (Half-Life 2, Portal, etc.). Drivers seem really stable.

I'm getting rid of it though: runs too hot because it's in such a small case. Replacing it with a Sapphire RX 480 NITRO.

 

 

[AssAss1n]

6 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

No issues to report. Works on older games just fine (Half-Life 2, Portal, etc.). Drivers seem really stable.

I'm getting rid of it though: runs too hot because it's in such a small case. Replacing it with a Sapphire RX 480 NITRO.

 

 

Thats good, If I will get lucky I might pair it with i5 4460.

 

Damn I have had my Intel core 2 duo + 2GB ram + 9600gt for 7 years.. I can't wait to play new games

[othertomperson]

1 hour ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

That's not strictly speaking true. An aftermarket custom-cooled 470 keeps up with the reference 970. Have you actually read any benchmarks?

The benchmarks I've seen of the 470 have shown it to be within a whisker of the 480. I've seen 470s do better than 480s, though granted that could well be because the 480 was benchmarked first and therefore the 470 was benchmarked on newer drivers and after the games had been patched.