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Haswell or Skylake?

Augusto

1. Budget & Location

I live in brazil, I want to spend 2000 Reais on memory, motherboard, cpu and case, I already have psu HD's and SSD, 

2. Aim

I want to play VR(HTC vive), so in a few months, after I buy CPU mobo memory and case, I will buy a gtx 1080 or 1070, and for monitors if I get the 1070 I will buy a 1080p 21:9, if it is the 1080 I will get a 4k monitor to play at 4k, and stream from time to time.

3. Monitors

I have a 1080p 16:9 and a 720p, but to play I will end up using only the ones I said before

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

I use a amd athlon II 640 and a gtx650TI now, and wanna play VR in a year, and depending on prices of the cards(if I get a good discount on the gtx 1080) I want to play on 4k(no aa)

 

The thing is, here in brazil skylake processors and haswell cost almost the same, but the motherboards for haswell are way cheaper and I wouldn't have to memory, since it is DD3, but I am afraid I would not have much of a space to upgrade the pc on the future if I get  a Haswell.

I am thinking about the i7 4790 for haswell, and if I stretch a bit my budget I could get a 6600k on a z170 chipset, but for now I wouldn't overclock cause I have no money to buy a good cooler for i but I would like to get a 6500t, both with 8Gb of ram.

 

ps: gtx 1060 havent launched here yet, and 970 are way cheaper than a rx 480, and gtx  980 ti, the cheapest, cost around the same as a 1070

 

edit: I forgot to mention, almost everything is refurbished, cause buying brand new things here end up costing like 1.5x the price of the refurbished, and here we have big shops that sell only refurbished components, and they have some kind of warranty for every piece.

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Get Skylake if you can but Haswell is still fine.

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get a i7 6700k

an i5 will bottneck a 1080 and sometimes a 1070

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1 minute ago, ShadowTechXTS said:

Get Skylake if you can but Haswell is still fine.

why? i isn't the 4790 better than 6600k?

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Just now, Augusto said:

why? i isn't the 4790 better than 6600k?

I didn't read the whole post, derp.

 

Yeah get the 4790.

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3 minutes ago, Julian5 said:

get a i7 6700k

an i5 will bottneck a 1080 and sometimes a 1070

on lower resolutions, for sure, but is not like I am going to play on a 144hz monitor, but on higher resolutions, since the load on gpu is waaay higher, the bottleneck is not much of a problem anymore, even though it still is there

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Just now, Augusto said:

on lower resolutions, for sure, but is not like I am going to play on a 144hz monitor, but on higher resolutions, since the load on gpu is waaay higher, the bottleneck is not much of a problem anymore, even though it still is there

I reccomend a 6700 though just saying

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Just now, Julian5 said:

I reccomend a 6700 though just saying

I know, I know, but the cost is pretty heavy along side with the mobo, cause the cheapest DDR4 mobo is a z170 and pretty expensive it is around 60% the cost of a 6600k.

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Just now, Augusto said:

I know, I know, but the cost is pretty heavy along side with the mobo, cause the cheapest DDR4 mobo is a z170 and pretty expensive it is around 60% the cost of a 6600k.

You don't need to get a z170 mobo to get ddr4... There are plenty of b150 or h170 mobos out there that are cheaper than z170 ones.

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Just now, DocSwag said:

You don't need to get a z170 mobo to get ddr4... There are plenty of b150 or h170 mobos out there that are cheaper than z170 ones.

the cheapest mobo with DDR4 here is a z170, trust me, market on Brazil sucks, mainly electronics, we have half the things launched in USA by 4x the price

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8 minutes ago, Augusto said:

cause the cheapest DDR4 mobo is a z170

 

7 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

You don't need to get a z170 mobo to get ddr4... There are plenty of b150 or h170 mobos out there that are cheaper than z170 ones.

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Have you considered buying from international stores and getting it shipped if options in Brazil are so limited? I'm sure Amazon/Newegg etc could ship there?

 

Surely you can buy anything you want in Brazil, my country is 1/40 the size/population of Brazil and I have no problem getting pretty much any computer components here.

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  • 4 weeks later...
On 8/3/2016 at 1:48 AM, Riley-NZL said:

Have you considered buying from international stores and getting it shipped if options in Brazil are so limited? I'm sure Amazon/Newegg etc could ship there?

 

Surely you can buy anything you want in Brazil, my country is 1/40 the size/population of Brazil and I have no problem getting pretty much any computer components here.

taxes, every pc component is taxed on something about 60%, being this only to import, and the taxing system heres takes so long, that, if I buy now, I would have it by february, if I end up receiving.

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