Rack Mounted Storage Server

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

I didn't think VGA would work if there was no iGPU.

There is a gpu on the motherboard. Its normally a low power matrox 32mb gpu, but its fine for installing windows.

[MattRead6]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Whats with the windows on usb? It doesn't like that

 

Why are you running windows. Its worse for storage than linux, costs 500 dollars, and is less secure.

 

Why get a gpu, your motherboard has one.

 

Id get a lsi 9211i 16i and use freeNAS.

 

 

 

You need to this this through a bit more. If you want a website, hosting of something like AWS is a much better solution. 

I looked into the Windows on a USB and found the same thing. I am running windows because there will be close to 20 users accessing this server, I like the windows server 2012 r2 environment. All the other machines will be windows, so I was going to use the same OS and I am comfortable with it. I like the remote access as well 

 

I might get a GPU just to have it,and it will have a dedicated monitor for the server until I install the other 3 servers. Then i will go VGA with a KVM setup.

I am going to get the raid card from LSI probably.

 

And I need to host the website in house, client specifically requested to not use any outside hosting.

[MattRead6]

3 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

 

And I need to host the website in house, client specifically requested to not use any outside hosting.

But I was just wondering about a website server, that is still in the air. Priority is a vault storage server like this one I have been planning

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, MattRead6 said:

I looked into the Windows on a USB and found the same thing. I am running windows because there will be close to 20 users accessing this server,

Are you running AD? Still id go freenas.

2 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

I might get a GPU just to have it,and it will have a dedicated monitor for the server until I install the other 3 servers.

Buy a laptop and use IMPI/drac

 

2 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

Then i will go VGA with a KVM setup.

No reason for kvm, use IMPI/drac

 

4 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

And I need to host the website in house, client specifically requested to not use any outside hosting.

You seem to be treating a job as a hobby. Go buy some dell servers.There better than anything you can build, about the same price, better support(onsite 3yr). Go buy a few r730's

[MattRead6]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Are you running AD? Still id go freenas.

Buy a laptop and use IMPI/drac

 

No reason for kvm, use IMPI/drac

 

You seem to be treating a job as a hobby. Go buy some dell servers.There better than anything you can build, about the same price, better support(onsite 3yr). Go buy a few r730's

It is a hobby/job. Server building is not something I usually do, but he wants to build from scratch(he is looking for a project). I will look into the IMPI/drac setup. And if I used FreeNas how would a get remote access, and access to the files outside of the local network. I saw owncloud, but I didn't like it as much as the windows interface.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, MattRead6 said:

It is a hobby/job. Server building is not something I usually do, but he wants to build from scratch(he is looking for a project). I will look into the IMPI/drac setup. And if I used FreeNas how would a get remote access, and access to the files outside of the local network. I saw owncloud, but I didn't like it as much as the windows interface.

Over IP and domain.

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

It is a hobby/job. Server building is not something I usually do, but he wants to build from scratch(he is looking for a project). I will look into the IMPI/drac setup. And if I used FreeNas how would a get remote access, and access to the files outside of the local network. I saw owncloud, but I didn't like it as much as the windows interface.

If you want acces, you can VPN in, Port forward the https port, or give yourself ssh access.

[MattRead6]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

Over IP and domain.

Ok, could I assign users specific read/write privileges? Based on logins?

 

If this is the golden solution to use FreeNas, why don't more people use it? Or am I just overlooking its potential?

 

Thanks

[ARikozuM]

Just now, MattRead6 said:

Ok, could I assign users specific read/write privileges? Based on logins?

 

If this is the golden solution to use FreeNas, why don't more people use it? Or am I just overlooking its potential?

 

Thanks

Users can be assigned to groups with individuals and groups.

I would have recommended FreeNAS, but support for FreeNAS is essentially a forum whereas Microsoft can help you out when there's trouble.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, MattRead6 said:

Ok, could I assign users specific read/write privileges? Based on logins?

 

If this is the golden solution to use FreeNas, why don't more people use it? Or am I just overlooking its potential?

 

Thanks

If you have ad you can sync it with that. 

 

What are most people using

 

For storage if you got a lot of money you buy a san, thats can easily go into the millions.(these often run zfs, the same subsystem that freenas uses)

 

If you have some money you get a NAS from someone like synology

 

 

[MattRead6]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

If you have ad you can sync it with that. 

 

What are most people using

 

For storage if you got a lot of money you buy a san, thats can easily go into the millions.(these often run zfs, the same subsystem that freenas uses)

 

If you have some money you get a NAS from someone like synology

 

 

I guess I just thought Windows Server was the mainsteam, But I guess FreeNas is quite popular. 

 

Yeah I don't know about a SAN. I have seen them and they are probably a slight bit overkill for the stage the company is at now.

Thanks for the Input

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, MattRead6 said:

I guess I just thought Windows Server was the mainsteam, But I guess FreeNas is quite popular. 

 

Yeah I don't know about a SAN. I have seen them and they are probably a slight bit overkill for the stage the company is at now.

Thanks for the Input

What are you storing?

 

Block, Object, or file

 

What protocol

 

What filesystem

 

 

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, MattRead6 said:

I guess I just thought Windows Server was the mainsteam, But I guess FreeNas is quite popular. 

 

Yeah I don't know about a SAN. I have seen them and they are probably a slight bit overkill for the stage the company is at now.

Thanks for the Input

I wouldn't use a SAN since you're looking for multiple machines and a server cabinet is better suited for it.

[MattRead6]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What are you storing?

 

Block, Object, or file

 

What protocol

 

What filesystem

 

 

Files, mostly small sized files. Will be media such as photos and small videos. But a lot of spreadsheets, docs and other things.. Just a lot of people will be adding/editing these files.

 

Was thinking about just going simple and using NTFS or exFat

 

Not sure about the protocol

[MattRead6]

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I wouldn't use a SAN since you're looking for multiple machines and a server cabinet is better suited for it.

I agree with that

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

Files, mostly small sized files. Will be media such as photos and small videos. But a lot of spreadsheets, docs and other things.. Just a lot of people will be adding/editing these files.

 

Was thinking about just going simple and using NTFS or exFat

 

Not sure about the protocol

More planing

 

For what you seem to be doing, buy a synology nas. They just work and build just for this. Your throwing away money with this build.

 

 

Id look at a synology https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS18016xs+

[MattRead6]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

More planing

 

For what you seem to be doing, buy a synology nas. They just work and build just for this. Your throwing away money with this build.

 

 

Id look at a synology https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS18016xs+

Alright, I will take a look. You are correct more planning. For a DIY Server though what Protocol and Filesystem would you reccomend?
and what OS does the synology run? Or do I install myself?

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, MattRead6 said:

For a DIY Server though what Protocol and Filesystem would you reccomend?

Depends on what your doing. What os are the clients using.

 

For windows desktops, just go with CIFS/SMB

 

Synology has a linux version on it. You don't mess with the os at all. Its basically plug and play.

[MattRead6]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Depends on what your doing. What os are the clients using.

 

For windows desktops, just go with CIFS/SMB

 

Synology has a linux version on it. You don't mess with the os at all. Its basically plug and play.

Ok, cool. Yeah windows PCs. And ok cool, and most of the synology servers I saw came diskless, so I could still pick up some of those WD Red Pros and call it good?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, MattRead6 said:

Ok, cool. Yeah windows PCs. And ok cool, and most of the synology servers I saw came diskless, so I could still pick up some of those WD Red Pros and call it good?

Yep, just fill with drives.