1070 or 1080?

[AcidicStylez]

So now that theres a little availability in some of the cards, im going to be buying either the 1070 or 1080. One of the custom designs of course. Just struggling to choose between them. Going for a single card, with the potential, to sli them later if need be for 1440p gaming. Expecting at least 60fps on pretty much everything in ultra and want to make use of my 165hz refresh rate in some titles. Right now, a gigabyte G1 1070 is £450 whereas they want £650 for a 1080. Can we justify the additional £200 for my needs or should i go with the 1080.

AMD is not an option since i have a g-sync monitor.

[mikat]

i'd get the 1070 imo

1070 is 90% of a 1080

[BbsMentos]

The 1070 will be fine at 1440p 60fps but the 1080 would unlock the full potential of that monitor, get the 1080 if you can the extra money, I think it's worth it

[ConiferousJelly]

The one justification for it is because you plan to SLI, you will get a lot more future proofing out of a 1080 and SLI-zing it when the performance isn't up to par for your needs. Also at 165hz and 1440p the GTX 1070 may struggle a little bit and if not now then in the near future.

[LordLeewee]

1070 will be fine, I'm getting 60fps minimum on doom at 4K with everything maxed and aa turned off, if I turn v sync off it goes as high as 90. The 1070 should have no problem with 1440

[wraptor]

2 minutes ago, ConiferousJelly said:

The one justification for it is because you plan to SLI, you will get a lot more future proofing out of a 1080 and SLI-zing it when the performance isn't up to par for your needs. Also at 165hz and 1440p the GTX 1070 may struggle a little bit and if not now then in the near future.

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Sorry   

As @mikat already stated, 2x 1070 = indeed better than a 1080 but reading your post tells me you seriously want to future proof yourself with 1x1080 for now and adding an additional one later on.

[mikat]

3 minutes ago, tv15dsi said:

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Sorry   

As @mikat already stated, 2x 1070 = indeed better than a 1080 but reading your post tells me you seriously want to future proof yourself with 1x1080 for now and adding an additional one later on.

the RX 480 would actually be a pretty bad option since  it's better to get a more powerful card than 2 less powerful cards (exception is x70 SLI vs x80 because x80s only perform marginally better at 1,5x the cost)

[wraptor]

2 minutes ago, mikat said:

the RX 480 would actually be a pretty bad option since  it's better to get a more powerful card than 2 less powerful cards (exception is x70 SLI vs x80 because x80s only perform marginally better at 1,5x the cost)

I was joking, the RX 480 is not even able to compete against a 1070 or a 1080.
2x RX 480's do, but then again... 4x RX480 to fight a 2x 1080 isn't that ideal ether.

+ That doesn't provide that G-Sync technology... if nvidia integraded FreeSync aswell since its open to use...

[GirlFromYonder]

16 minutes ago, AcidicStylez said:

So now that theres a little availability in some of the cards, im going to be buying either the 1070 or 1080. One of the custom designs of course. Just struggling to choose between them. Going for a single card, with the potential, to sli them later if need be for 1440p gaming. Expecting at least 60fps on pretty much everything in ultra and want to make use of my 165hz refresh rate in some titles. Right now, a gigabyte G1 1070 is £450 whereas they want £650 for a 1080. Can we justify the additional £200 for my needs or should i go with the 1080.

AMD is not an option since i have a g-sync monitor.

Go with the 1080. If it can get 60fps in 4k (around that), it will get 165 in 1440p (in less demanding games) 120 or 100 in games like doom. Maybe even 144fps

[Lays]

25 minutes ago, mikat said:

i'd get the 1070 imo

1070 is 90% of a 1080

It's not 90% of a 1080, lol.  It's missing 25% of the 1080's cuda cores, has slower memory, less memory bandwidth, and it's clocked lower.  It's not even possible to be 10% slower with all of those things the 1080 has over it.

 

Your math is no bueno

 

However, does the 1070 have better price to performance? Yes of course, but in no way is the 1070 90% of a 1080.

[mikat]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

It's not 90% of a 1080, lol.  It's missing 25% of the 1080's cuda cores, has slower memory, less memory bandwidth, and it's clocked lower.  It's not even possible to be 10% slower with all of those things the 1080 has over it.

 

Your math is no bueno

 

[Lays]

2 minutes ago, mikat said:

 

 

That video backs up my point, do the math of the benchmark numbers between the 1070 FE and the 1080 FE, you'll see it's not 10% lol. 

 

Take the smaller number and divide it by the bigger one, you'll see it's not 10%.

 

 

IE: 

Crysis 3 1080p:

 

1080 FE FPS: 102 

 

1070 FE FPS: 85.9

 

85.9/102= 84%, thus the 1080 is 16% faster.

 

 

 

Rise of the Tomb Raider 1440p: 

 

1080 FE FPS: 92.24

 

1070 FE FPS: 72.54

 

72.54/92.24 = 78%, thus the 1080 is 22% faster.

 

 

The 1080 stretches it's lead on the 1070 massively in 1440p and 4k as well.

[AcidicStylez]

Thanks for the input.

Right now im looking at 3 cards

 

EVGA 1080 FTW: Pre-order: £600

Gigabyte 1070 G1: Delivery tomorrow: £450

Zotac 1070 AMP EXTREME: Pre-order: £390

Thanks for the input.

 

Wracking my brain to pick a winner.

Thoughts?

 

 

[mikat]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

 

That video backs up my point, do the math of the benchmark numbers between the 1070 FE and the 1080 FE, you'll see it's not 10% lol. 

 

Take the smaller number and divide it by the bigger one, you'll see it's not 10%.

 

 

IE: 

Crysis 3 1080p:

 

1080 FE FPS: 102 

 

1070 FE FPS: 85.9

 

85.9/102= 84%, thus the 1080 is 16% faster.

 

 

 

Rise of the Tomb Raider 1440p: 

 

1080 FE FPS: 92.24

 

1070 FE FPS: 72.54

 

72.54/92.24 = 78%, thus the 1080 is 22% faster.

 

 

The 1080 stretches it's lead on the 1070 massively in 1440p and 4k as well.

well what i said might be wrong, but your math is also not accurate
if the 1070 has 78% of the performance of the 1080, then the 1080 is not 22% faster, it's 1/0,78-1=28% faster

[Lays]

1 minute ago, mikat said:

well what i said might be wrong, but your math is also not accurate
if the 1070 has 78% of the performance of the 1080, then the 1080 is not 22% faster, it's 1/0,78-1=28% faster

wat?

 

78+22 = 100 lol

[mikat]

1 minute ago, Lays said:

wat?

 

78+22 = 100 lol

but 78%*122%=95%

 

[Lays]

12 minutes ago, mikat said:

but 78%*122%=95%

 

If you want to figure out how much less 72.54 is of 92.24, you do this:

 

72.54 / 92.24 = 0.78

 

move the decimal over 2 places to the right, that leaves you with 78%, so 72.54 is 78% of 92.24, so the 1070 was getting 78% of the FPS of the 1080

[jjohnthedon1]

1 hour ago, Lays said:

If you want to figure out how much less 72.54 is of 92.24, you do this:

 

72.54 / 92.24 = 0.78

 

move the decimal over 2 places to the right, that leaves you with 78%, so 72.54 is 78% of 92.24, so the 1070 was getting 78% of the FPS of the 1080

So the 1070 would have to increase its performance 28 percent to match a 1080

but the 1080 would have to drop its performance 22 to match a 1070 ? 

[Hunter-97-G]

Pick up the 1080 FTW and you'll have a killer card for your monitor.

[MentalBlank]

I went for a singel 1080 instead of 2x 1070, not all game support SLI the fact sometimes you get lower FPS in SLI than a singel card. If i had the patience i would've gone with a singel 1070 to save some money, since even the 1070 will be more than enough for me to run games like League of legends, Overwatch, Rise of the tomb raider, GTA V in 1440p.