5820K vs 6700K vs 4790K vs Zen

[PCGuy_5960]

Which should I get or should I wait for Zen?

 

The CPU, RAM ,Mobo combo costs:

-$700 for the 5820K

-$600 for the 6700K

-$450 for the 4790K

 

[Arty]

Purpose of machine?

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Arty said:

Purpose of machine?

oh yeah! Forgot it  

Gaming and Video Editing

[Arty]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

oh yeah! Forgot it  

Gaming and Video Editing

hmm an i5 would be better for gaming.......and cheaper....but the i7 better for rendering....hmm........

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, Arty said:

hmm an i5 would be better for gaming.......and cheaper....but the i7 better for rendering....hmm........

The i5 is a $60 difference! This is why I'm not considering it...

It isn't worth it

[Arty]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The i5 is a $60 difference! This is why I'm not considering it...

Tbh if your just causually doing video editing, the 4790k should get the job done., if your doing more intsense stuff probbly move on up. 

[Sintezza]

For video editing and rendering those extra cores of the 5820K are a benefit to have.

For gaming the 6700K basicly is the best choice atm.

But since you are looking for a mix between gaming and video editing,

it depends a bit on how much video editing and rendering you do on a daily base, and how big those projects are.

If you do it on a regular basis, then go with the 6 core 5820K.

 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Arty said:

Tbh if your just causually doing video editing, the 4790k should get the job done., if your doing more intsense stuff probbly move on up. 

hmm... Do you think it is worth waiting for Zen?(Instead of buying a 4790K now)

[Arty]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

hmm... Do you think it is worth waiting for Zen?(Instead of buying a 4790K now)

hmm im not familer with AMD, i can't say anything.

[Clanscorpia]

From our guess, Zen probably won't be at Skylake IPC. It's not really worth it since you will be waiting a year or some to get Zen. Lisa said they are still working on it. The 5820K is your best choice

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Arty said:

hmm im not familer with AMD, i can't say anything.

OK, Thx though, I had simply read an article which claimed that the high end Zen CPU will be as powerful as a 5960X!

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

From our guess, Zen probably won't be at Skylake IPC. It's not really worth it since you will be waiting a year or some to get Zen. Lisa said they are still working on it. The 5820K is your best choice

Hmm. Do you think it is worth the extra $$?

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Hmm. Do you think it is worth the extra $$?

Yes, for sure

[Sintezza]

6 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

hmm... Do you think it is worth waiting for Zen?(Instead of buying a 4790K now)

Nobody knows anthing about zen yet.

So its hard to say anything, there are people who trow with rumored numbers.

But those can be taken with a large mountain of salt.

And if those performance rumors about ZEN are exaly legit, that the FX 8 core 16 Threads chip, can compete directly with the 5960X.

Then it will also not be cheap.

 

5820K is my advice.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

Yes, for sure

OK! Are there any X99 Mobos for less than $200?

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Yes, for sure

Or should I get a 4790K and a GTX 1070?

[SeanAngelo]

22 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Which should I get or should I wait for Zen?

 

The CPU, RAM ,Mobo combo costs:

-$700 for the 5820K

-$600 for the 6700K

-$450 for the 4790K

 

4790k.

[Sintezza]

30 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

OK! Are there any X99 Mobos for less than $200?

Yes there are.

Of course not the best ones, but they will get the job done basicly...

But i would say invest a littlebit more and buy a decent X99 board then.

[Briggsy]

4790k is more than enough. I have no intentions of upgrading mine (knock on wood) for a good while as it's a beast of a cpu. I think most of the 4790k cpu's available now are from vietnam, which tend to run a bit hotter, but overclock further on less voltage. 

[Zyndo]

If you're buying new, it makes more sense to bite the bullet and pay the little bit extra to get more current platforms. if you overclock the 4790k to 4.5 GHz and 6700k to 4.5 GHz, the 6700k still preforms faster. Then there's the added benefit of faster and more power efficient DDR4. Not to mention a more widespread adaption of USB 3.1, type C, thunderbolt, m.2/u.2, etc on skylake generation motherboards.

Now, that's IF you can afford it. If you have to count your pennies just to get there, then the others in this thread are probably right. there's nothing wrong with 4790k, and it would do just fine. But if you can afford more, I would recommend getting more. but if you dont have that kind of money or you need to funnel your funds elsewhere in your build, then 4790k may just be the CPU for you!




P.s. I'm not sure where you got those price numbers. Looking on PC part picker right now,

Skylake ($495): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V892Q7

 

Devil's Canyon ($480): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGKbvV

 

Haswell-E ($650): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YhnZjX

These numbers are gathered by using the Asus A series motherboard for each generation (as close of a direct comparison as you can really get). I then bought the chepaest 8GB ram I could for each system (since you're unlikely to be using less than that) its worth noting I spent an extra 30 bucks on RAM (4x4GB) for Hasewell-E, as I'm not 100% sure if it runs well with only 1-2 DIMMs.

Also, if you're going the X99 route, you might want to consider Broadwell-E and the 6800k. slightly more expensive than the 5820k, but new gen CPU's are just better.

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

3 hours ago, Zyndo said:

If you're buying new, it makes more sense to bite the bullet and pay the little bit extra to get more current platforms. if you overclock the 4790k to 4.5 GHz and 6700k to 4.5 GHz, the 6700k still preforms faster. Then there's the added benefit of faster and more power efficient DDR4. Not to mention a more widespread adaption of USB 3.1, type C, thunderbolt, m.2/u.2, etc on skylake generation motherboards.

Now, that's IF you can afford it. If you have to count your pennies just to get there, then the others in this thread are probably right. there's nothing wrong with 4790k, and it would do just fine. But if you can afford more, I would recommend getting more. but if you dont have that kind of money or you need to funnel your funds elsewhere in your build, then 4790k may just be the CPU for you!




P.s. I'm not sure where you got those price numbers. Looking on PC part picker right now,

Skylake ($495): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V892Q7

 

Devil's Canyon ($480): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGKbvV

 

Haswell-E ($650): http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YhnZjX

These numbers are gathered by using the Asus A series motherboard for each generation (as close of a direct comparison as you can really get). I then bought the chepaest 8GB ram I could for each system (since you're unlikely to be using less than that) its worth noting I spent an extra 30 bucks on RAM (4x4GB) for Hasewell-E, as I'm not 100% sure if it runs well with only 1-2 DIMMs.

Also, if you're going the X99 route, you might want to consider Broadwell-E and the 6800k. slightly more expensive than the 5820k, but new gen CPU's are just better.

 

 

I have decided... I am going to go the X99 route and get a 5820K, cause 6800K offers little gains and costs $80-100 more... 

 

20 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I have decided... I am going to go the X99 route and get a 5820K, cause 6800K offers little gains and costs $80-100 more... 

Where I live of course... 

 

19 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Where I live of course... 

The prices for the components :

-5820K  $400

-AsRock X99 Extreme4   $220

-team Group Vulcan 16GB DDR4 2800MHz   $30

 

I am not taking into account amazon or Newegg because I want the parts within two days.... (I do not have an amazon prime membership) 

[Zyndo]

6 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I have decided... I am going to go the X99 route and get a 5820K, cause 6800K offers little gains and costs $80-100 more... 

Something else to consider... Dont compare it directly against the cost of the 5820k, but rather the cost of your entire system. Lets say your budget is $1500. the question isn't 400 for a 5820k or 500 for 6800k, the question is 1500 for a 5820k or 1600 for 6800k.

It still may not be worth it for you, in which case no sweat. but its something to keep in mind.

GL and enjoy your system!

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Zyndo said:

Something else to consider... Dont compare it directly against the cost of the 5820k, but rather the cost of your entire system. Lets say your budget is $1500. the question isn't 400 for a 5820k or 500 for 6800k, the question is 1500 for a 5820k or 1600 for 6800k.

It still may not be worth it for you, in which case no sweat. but its something to keep in mind.

GL and enjoy your system!

I have a budget of $700 so I am not considering Broadwell-E as a viable option because I will also buy a 212 Evo or something like that 

[jjohnthedon1]

For gaming my 4790k hits 4.8ghz and never goes over 50 percent load in games

its also a beast in video editing,

if u don't render 24/7 for a living 

and don't mind waiting like a tiny bit more time u can spend ur money else where in your system 

and this will give you and extra chunk of money to get either a better aftermarket gpu of what ur looking at now or the next card up 

[PCGuy_5960]

1 hour ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

For gaming my 4790k hits 4.8ghz and never goes over 50 percent load in games

its also a beast in video editing,

if u don't render 24/7 for a living 

and don't mind waiting like a tiny bit more time u can spend ur money else where in your system 

and this will give you and extra chunk of money to get either a better aftermarket gpu of what ur looking at now or the next card up 

I think I am going to be more "futureproof" this time and get a 5820K... After all I might be getting a GTX 1070 later this year... If not, I'll get the RX 480!