is this a good steup?

[RUWO_builder]

i am going to build a 1000€-ish build for a friend,but i have never done something in this price range before.As you see, i have stil a 100€to spend.Where should i improve upon or what should i change? The purpose would be gaming/java development and where not planing on overcloking.Thanks a lot

 

Intel Core i5 4690K € 269,00

MSI B85M-G43 motherboard € 83,99

Kingston HyperX FURY 8 GB DIMM DDR3-1600 withe 2 x 4 GB€ 49,99

Asus GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 graphics card€ 169,00

Kingston SSDNow V300 120 GB€ 49,99

WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB€ 68,50

Scythe Shuriken Rev. B + Arctic Silver 5 cooler € 61,00

Cooler Master Elite 344 + CORSAIR CS550M € 154,00 

  

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

You could probably wait for the RX 480 to come out depending on how much it is where you live, it would be a lot better than the 750ti

Also, use pcpartpicker

[EunSoo]

If you aren't overclocking then don't get a processor ending with a 'k'. Get the non-k version as you wouldn't be able to anyway because your motherboard does not allow overclocking. Also, you need a PSU

[SeanAngelo]

5 minutes ago, RUWO_builder said:

i am going to build a 1000€-ish build for a friend,but i have never done something in this price range before.As you see, i have stil a 100€to spend.Where should i improve upon or what should i change? The purpose would be gaming/java development and where not planing on overcloking.Thanks a lot

 

Intel Core i5 4690K € 269,00

MSI B85M-G43 motherboard € 83,99

Kingston HyperX FURY 8 GB DIMM DDR3-1600 withe 2 x 4 GB€ 49,99

Asus GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 graphics card€ 169,00

Kingston SSDNow V300 120 GB€ 49,99

WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB€ 68,50

Scythe Shuriken Rev. B + Arctic Silver 5 cooler € 61,00

Cooler Master Elite 344 + CORSAIR CS550M € 154,00 

  

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€227.47 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€32.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus Z97 PRO GAMER ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€139.32 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€45.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€93.82 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€47.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  (€286.45 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€98.67 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1033.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-10 21:08 CEST+0200

[Or Aviram]

Maybe instead of the 4690K get the 5600K and a different motherboard (I can't recommend you any right now, but it shouldn't be too hard to find)? I think you actually should overclock, because you would gain a lot of extra performance, but if you don't, why get an unlocked CPU? You can get the locked version and save a lot of money. I also think you should get the 240BG version of that SSD.

[Or Aviram]

1 minute ago, Or Aviram said:

Maybe instead of the 4690K get the 5600K and a different motherboard (I can't recommend you any right now, but it shouldn't be too hard to find)? I think you actually should overclock, because you would gain a lot of extra performance, but if you don't, why get an unlocked CPU? You can get the locked version and save a lot of money. I also think you should get the 240BG version of that SSD.

And maybe 16BG of RAM instead of 8? I heard many people say you can live with 8, but I currently use 8 and I feel really limited, so I think 16 can be a major improvement... It is most likely just me, but maybe not.

[paddy-stone]

OK, I have an option for you

 

 http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YvWcf8

 

1077 Euros, but with mATX case/itx mobo/16GB RAM ddr4/ac wifi on board  and a gtx1070... figured the price of the non-ref cards might be around 400 Euros, but there's a bit of wiggle room with the PSU and RAM that could be dropped for less spec, but personally I prefer a decent PSU that will last longer and give better power, so might not spin up the fans so much and is fully modular.

[RUWO_builder]

thanks a lot. i think i am going with paddystones one,but onboard wifi is something he doesn't need.

so i choose a different motherboard.i also choose a cheaper case, as this is going to be case modded anyway.

 

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JGH3Cy

[Or Aviram]

1 hour ago, RUWO_builder said:

thanks a lot. i think i am going with paddystones one,but onboard wifi is something he doesn't need.

so i choose a different motherboard.i also choose a cheaper case, as this is going to be case modded anyway.

 

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JGH3Cy

The parts are not 100% compatible, look at the compatibility notes.

And I still think you do better go with the i5 6600 instead of the 6500...

[RUWO_builder]

With Some more tweaking i came to this,but i am not sure About this ssd.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/HG38d6

[Or Aviram]

21 minutes ago, RUWO_builder said:

With Some more tweaking i came to this,but i am not sure About this ssd.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/HG38d6

I have never heard of this SSD, so I wouldn't trust it... Maybe get the Samsung 850 Evo, or the Kngston SAVAGE.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, RUWO_builder said:

With Some more tweaking i came to this,but i am not sure About this ssd.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/HG38d6

Woah!!! You don't need a psu that big for a single gpu setup. Your motherboard doesn't support SLI so you can't add a 2nd GTX 1070 anyway.

 

A good 550W is all you need:

 

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Rkh9TW/xfx-power-supply-p1550bbefx

 

 

That Arctic Alpine cpu cooler will be no better than the stock Intel one.

 

 

I would put the money saved from the psu towards a better case.

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Or Aviram said:

I have never heard of this SSD, so I wouldn't trust it... Maybe get the Samsung 850 Evo, or the Kngston SAVAGE.

Crucial are a good brand. The BX200 will be fine for this setup. The 850 EVO is better, but it is more expensive.

[Or Aviram]

2 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Crucial are a good brand. The BX200 will be fine for this setup. The 850 EVO is better, but it is more expensive.

I know Crucial, I just didn't know that specific SSD. But if you say it's good, I trust you.

[RUWO_builder]

So i chose lee psu and a better case and better cooler.i think this is my final setup

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMM3Cy

[Or Aviram]

21 minutes ago, RUWO_builder said:

So i chose lee psu and a better case and better cooler.i think this is my final setup

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMM3Cy

You don't need a CPU cooler. The stock cooler is fine if you don't overclcok, and since your CPU is locked, you should have no problem using the stock one (which comes with the CPU).

I don't know many cases, but I recently built in the Cooler Master Mastercase Pro 5, and it's great. It is more expensive than the one you got, but it is worth it.

I think maybe for the power supply you can go with this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfJwrH/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

If you feel like spending a lot of money, maybe go with the 850W version, but I doubt you will need it, since Pascal is super power efficient.

 

Yes, I know you don't even need it because your motherboard only supports one graphics card, but to be honest...that motherboard looks pretty bad. Motherboard is not the kind of parts you want to cheap on and get a 50 dollar one. Maybe get the Asus Z170-E. This is still a pretty budget one, but with mant major improvements which you might like.

 

I know I raised the price of your build by a little bit, but not a huge amount, so I think it should be fine. What do you think?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Or Aviram said:

You don't need a CPU cooler. The stock cooler is fine if you don't overclcok, and since your CPU is locked, you should have no problem using the stock one (which comes with the CPU).

I don't know many cases, but I recently built in the Cooler Master Mastercase Pro 5, and it's great. It is more expensive than the one you got, but it is worth it.

I think maybe for the power supply you can go with this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfJwrH/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr

If you feel like spending a lot of money, maybe go with the 850W version, but I doubt you will need it, since Pascal is super power efficient.

 

Yes, I know you don't even need it because your motherboard only supports one graphics card, but to be honest...that motherboard looks pretty bad. Motherboard is not the kind of parts you want to cheap on and get a 50 dollar one. Maybe get the Asus Z170-E. This is still a pretty budget one, but with mant major improvements which you might like.

 

I know I raised the price of your build by a little bit, but not a huge amount, so I think it should be fine. What do you think?

He doesn't need a 750W psu though.

 

Also the Asus Z170-E is more than double the price of the one in his spec. He is already at 1000 Euros.

[Or Aviram]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

He doesn't need a 750W psu though.

 

Also the Asus Z170-E is more than double the price of the one in his spec. He is already at 1000 Euros.

This is the list I said:

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dVbkLD

 

Price seems a bit more expensive, this is true, but nothing insane... If it is too much, and you want to lower it, here is one that looks good: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/L7Z23F

It doesn't include the price of the power supply in the dutch version of PcPartsPicker, so here is its page on the US version, so you will get the prices: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y

 

If this is also too expensive, so maybe try Mastercase 5 (instead of the Pro 5), or this one.

 

It's just really important to spend (more) money on a component such as a motherboard in my opinion...

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Or Aviram said:

This is the list I said:

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dVbkLD

 

Price seems a bit more expensive, this is true, but nothing insane... If it is too much, and you want to lower it, here is one that looks good: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/L7Z23F

It doesn't include the price of the power supply in the dutch version of PcPartsPicker, so here is its page on the US version, so you will get the prices: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y

 

If this is also too expensive, so maybe try Mastercase 5 (instead of the Pro 5), or this one.

 

It's just really important to spend (more) money on a component such as a motherboard in my opinion...

You are looking at 85 Euros minimum for the EVGA G2 550W. Also the GTX 1070 is going to be more than that. You are looking at around £400 for a GTX 1070 in the UK which translates to about 500 Euros, so you are still over budget.

[Or Aviram]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

You are looking at 85 Euros minimum for the EVGA G2 550W. Also the GTX 1070 is going to be more than that. You are looking at around £400 for a GTX 1070 in the UK which translates to about 500 Euros, so you are still over budget.

But it says euro on the list...

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Or Aviram said:

But it says euro on the list...

There are no prices for the GTX 1070 or EVGA G2 550W on the German pcpartpicker. Where did you get the 400 Euros from for the gpu ?

[Or Aviram]

5 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

There are no prices for the GTX 1070 or EVGA G2 550W on the German pcpartpicker. Where did you get the 400 Euros from for the gpu ?

It's a balance between the minimum for the custom cards and the price of the founders card, but instead of the dollar sign it has the euro sign, meaning it will most likely be cheaper.

Let's just wait for him to respond. We don't actually know what is his budget, all we have seen is that most of the lists were a little above 1000 euros, but maybe he has more.

[paddy-stone]

He got it from my post, but if you read it again OP I said that there was wiggle room with the PSU and RAM for the cost of it basically... we don;t know how much they will be yet, so I priced the build with the 1070 in mind, but that you would maybe have to budget with some of the other components like the PSU/RAM to get it.

[Or Aviram]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

He got it from my post, but if you read it again OP I said that there was wiggle room with the PSU and RAM for the cost of it basically... we don;t know how much they will be yet, so I priced the build with the 1070 in mind, but that you would maybe have to budget with some of the other components like the PSU/RAM to get it.

Well, he can always get an RX 480 instead. I mean, we still don't know if it will compete with the 1070, but it makes sense it does. We will just have to wait for the benchmarks.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Or Aviram said:

It's a balance between the minimum for the custom cards and the price of the founders card, but instead of the dollar sign it has the euro sign, meaning it will most likely be cheaper.

Let's just wait for him to respond. We don't actually know what is his budget, all we have seen is that most of the lists were a little above 1000 euros, but maybe he has more.

I have no idea what you are on about, but if you look at the UK pcpartpicker you can see that the cheapest GTX 1070 listed is £391. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369&sort=a8&page=1

 

£1 is about 1.26 Euros at current exchange rates, so that works out at about 495 Euros. UK and European prices are pretty similar for pc hardware.

 

http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=391&From=GBP&To=EUR