Small (SMALL) Gaming PC

[lachyman]

a) The CM130 is NOT small. Small is something like the Silverstone SG05 (10.7l)

B) The Hadron (15.9l) is actually smaller than the CM130 (18.6l)

...While having much better features. I don't think it's about volume, but lengths of diffirent sides, shuttle PCs are much more practical than towers.

[Joe3417]

EVGA Hadron + 3570k & ITX board with card of your choice.

 

You'll have to be pretty experienced at building because while it's small and looks really sleek it is much harder to work in.

 

He might want to use haswell for the really low power consumption because with a good dedicated gpu and ivy and whatever else he runs might be a little to much for the power

[MrSuperb]

...While having much better features. I don't think it's about volume, but lengths of diffirent sides, shuttle PCs are much more practical than towers.

 

True, but with some modding you can put almost anything in a SG05 e.g. GTX Titan + Corsair H80i + 4x2.5" HDDs

(only 7990 won't work)

[Stonep11]

Do you mean taking it into the cabin? I don't understand why would you want to do that.

Because I have had stuff lost in the checked baggage all the time.  Also it is easier to carry on when I want to take it from home to school, or to a friends, or somewhere else.

[lachyman]

Because I have had stuff lost in the checked baggage all the time.  Also it is easier to carry on when I want to take it from home to school, or to a friends, or somewhere else.

OK, I have checked that Silverstone thing, it might be pretty good, only drawback is that you can't put a 7990 in there which would be the best you could get from the 1 PCI-e slot. You could fit ARES II in there for sure, but I am not sure about where to mount the radiator and you would probably have to give up the H80i. You certainly know the case better so you know what goes where.

[Stonep11]

What about just a 780?

[lachyman]

What about just a 780?

That will have siginificant performance decrease from the HD7990 for the same price, so a no from me. I personally hink it's better to get that Elite 130 with HD7990 even if it is a bit bigger, but as I checked, it should fit in most planes. 

[Stonep11]

That will have siginificant performance decrease from the HD7990 for the same price, so a no from me. I personally hink it's better to get that Elite 130 with HD7990 even if it is a bit bigger, but as I checked, it should fit in most planes. 

Wow, http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-HD7990-GDDR5-6GB-Graphics-GV-R799D5-6GD-B/dp/B00CHGNKPW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1380048199&sr=8-2&keywords=HD7990 only $619!!!

[Stonep11]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HaW1

 

Ok here is what I have complied.  Please suggest improvements or places where I overspent. REMEMBER I am using this ONLY FOR GAMING! So I want costs cut where they don't help gaming and where more money could help gaming, let me know!

[Titanicium]

Well if you would like my opinion @Stonep11 then here we go

 

Forget about the Hadron since that thing comes with a 500w NON-modular PSU which is wrong in at least three ways being:

 

1) It is included which usually means that it is shit...

 

2) It ain't modular and you wanted a modular PSU.

 

3) It is so damn small...

 

If you want something small then I would say that cube is the way to go. Like this one (You can't buy it here but you can get a lot of info on it here) : http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/lan-box/haf-xb-window.html

 

It is definetly my favorite cube case and if I didn't like Corsair that much (They don't have anyting good at this scale so just forget me saying that.) I would have bought it for my build And although it is a little bit bigger (It is still small and honestly: You don't want it smaller. This is because you have a so shitty selection of GPUs to shoose from then due to compatibility issues.) then the other one this got several advantages over the other.

1) It is an extremely well built cube design case with two handles which is great for those wild years in college where you might want to take it to a LAN party and just stick it under some random place under the desk or something. It also makes it ideal on the plane.

 

2) Hadron is EVGAs first case whilst Cooler Master has been doing dusins upon dusins and is therefore a lot more experienced in this field.

 

3) It got a lot better cooling solutions. You can watercool with two radiators for the sake of it.

But anyway to the rest. I will propose two builds for you now. One within the target budget and one where money is no object and where I give you the best gaming oriented build you can make in that case (as you said first. ) just if you would happen to like that build. We are here to help you know.

So to kick it off: The 2000 USD beast! (Red and black colour scheme)

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hakp

 

CPU: I know a i5-4670K is the more optimal price to performance for gaming but in college there is always some editing and rendering which it is awesome to have a i7 for

 

CPU Cooler: I got this Cooler/CPU combo and it keeps my CPU from overheating no matter what you do so always nice to have. And cooling is a terrible place to save money... It's just not "cool" to save money here.

 

MOBO: This one of the best motherboard for gaming (had it myself before my father "fucked it over" when he forced the CPU in...) and the looks is amazing so this is the way to go.

 

RAM: I also got this myself and this is the perfect match between high frequency (1866 is a bit better then 1600 although it ain't that remarkable) and low latency (CL9 gaming grade). And since it is 4 DIMs it fill all of the slots on the board which I think is the best since it looks the best.

 

HDDs: These are the utmost in HDD performance and pretty much performs double that of a plain normal HDD (This got higher RPM and cache) Which is kinda awesome.

 

GPU: The ASUS cooler is just so hot (metaphoricaly as in awesome not hot since it is very cold ) and so cool which makes this variant of the 770 sooo overclockable and just so nice to deal with. So this is the best of the 770s in my opinion And it is rolls along nicely with the colour scheme.

 

Case: I pretty much explained this above but it is just plain awesome.

 

PSU: This is the "downgraded version" (only in wattage everything else is just as premium) of the AX 860i which is the "downgraded" version (again just as premium) of AX 1200i which is awesome. It supplies clean and stable power with one of the best energy standards in the industry. It is the utmost of quality for a PC PSU and is therefore my choice here.

 

And to just go all out in this case: The Beast of beasts! (Red and black colour scheme)

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HaSR

 

CPU: I know a i5-4670K is the more optimal price to performance for gaming but in college there is always some editing and rendering which it is awesome to have a i7 for

 

CPU Cooler: I got this Cooler/CPU combo and it keeps my CPU from overheating no matter what you do so always nice to have And cooling is a terrible place to save money...

 

MOBO: This one of the best motherboard for gaming (had it myself before my father "fucked it over" when he forced the CPU in...) and the looks is amazing so this is the way to go.

 

RAM: I also got this myself and this is the perfect match between high frequency (1866 is a bit better then 1600 although it ain't that remarkable) and low latency (CL9 gaming grade) And since it is 4 DIMs it fill all of the slots on the board which I think is the best since it looks the best.

 

SSDs: These are epic I got a 750 GB myself and it performs like a champ while still remaining one of the highest capacity SSDs for consumers on the market.

 

HDDs: These are the utmost in HDD performance and pretty much performs double that of a plain normal HDD (This got higher RPM and cache). Which is kinda awesome.

 

GPUS: 780s will always be a winner in my heart and although the Titan is better this is the bang for your buck performance GPU. AND this one is important: NEVER EVER get a 7990! The dual GPU on one card solution that AMD rolls with is absolutely terrible! It will actually hurt the experience cause of massive microstuttering... Even Linus doesn't like it... And no I am not a Nvidia fanboy it is just that this ain't worth it.  Get yourself a 7990 in the case of AMD.

 

Case: I pretty much explained this above but it is just plain awesome.

 

PSU: I also got this myself and it is just plain awesome. Way overkill for my build but if you overclock this build then this is what you need.

 

So to round it all of:

 

1) I am not a AMD hater but get a 770 or dual 780s since they are just plain better due to things as GPU Boost 2.0 and being cooler.

 

2) I really love this case and that it is almost an M-itx case in size but fits ATX mobos.

 

3) I own almost every single one of these parts and I have studied the rest of them for months and that is also why I am recommending them. I like to provide people with the most extensive, easily understandable, accurtate and most uber awesome advice which I can possibly give them and therefore I know that what I say is true and correct.

 

I really hope this helps you because I have now spent litteraly over an hour making this post possible and as correct as a answer can be. So have a nice day/night and stay safe mate! Drinking won't help you here in life. Fragging people in BF3/COD/everything else does. And the above mentioned PCs makes that a reality.

Off topic: I am sorry for the serious nature of this post but I had more emoticons in the original post then the forum rules would allow so I just had to remove some random ones.

[Stonep11]

Well if you would like my opinion @Stonep11 then here we go

 

Forget about the Hadron since that thing comes with a 500w NON-modular PSU which is wrong in at least three ways being:

 

1) It is included which usually means that it is shit...

 

2) It ain't modular and you wanted a modular PSU.

 

3) It is so damn small...

 

If you want something small then I would say that cube is the way to go. Like this one (You can't buy it here but you can get a lot of info on it here) : http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/lan-box/haf-xb-window.html

 

It is definetly my favorite cube case and if I didn't like Corsair that much (They don't have anyting good at this scale so just forget me saying that.) I would have bought it for my build And although it is a little bit bigger (It is still small and honestly: You don't want it smaller. This is because you have a so shitty selection of GPUs to shoose from then due to compatibility issues.) then the other one this got several advantages over the other.

1) It is an extremely well built cube design case with two handles which is great for those wild years in college where you might want to take it to a LAN party and just stick it under some random place under the desk or something. It also makes it ideal on the plane.

 

2) Hadron is EVGAs first case whilst Cooler Master has been doing dusins upon dusins and is therefore a lot more experienced in this field.

 

3) It got a lot better cooling solutions. You can watercool with two radiators for the sake of it.

But anyway to the rest. I will propose two builds for you now. One within the target budget and one where money is no object and where I give you the best gaming oriented build you can make in that case (as you said first. ) just if you would happen to like that build. We are here to help you know.

So to kick it off: The 2000 USD beast! (Red and black colour scheme)

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hakp

 

CPU: I know a i5-4670K is the more optimal price to performance for gaming but in college there is always some editing and rendering which it is awesome to have a i7 for

 

CPU Cooler: I got this Cooler/CPU combo and it keeps my CPU from overheating no matter what you do so always nice to have. And cooling is a terrible place to save money... It's just not "cool" to save money here.

 

MOBO: This one of the best motherboard for gaming (had it myself before my father "fucked it over" when he forced the CPU in...) and the looks is amazing so this is the way to go.

 

RAM: I also got this myself and this is the perfect match between high frequency (1866 is a bit better then 1600 although it ain't that remarkable) and low latency (CL9 gaming grade). And since it is 4 DIMs it fill all of the slots on the board which I think is the best since it looks the best.

 

HDDs: These are the utmost in HDD performance and pretty much performs double that of a plain normal HDD (This got higher RPM and cache) Which is kinda awesome.

 

GPU: The ASUS cooler is just so hot (metaphoricaly as in awesome not hot since it is very cold ) and so cool which makes this variant of the 770 sooo overclockable and just so nice to deal with. So this is the best of the 770s in my opinion And it is rolls along nicely with the colour scheme.

 

Case: I pretty much explained this above but it is just plain awesome.

 

PSU: This is the "downgraded version" (only in wattage everything else is just as premium) of the AX 860i which is the "downgraded" version (again just as premium) of AX 1200i which is awesome. It supplies clean and stable power with one of the best energy standards in the industry. It is the utmost of quality for a PC PSU and is therefore my choice here.

 

And to just go all out in this case: The Beast of beasts! (Red and black colour scheme)

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HaSR

 

CPU: I know a i5-4670K is the more optimal price to performance for gaming but in college there is always some editing and rendering which it is awesome to have a i7 for

 

CPU Cooler: I got this Cooler/CPU combo and it keeps my CPU from overheating no matter what you do so always nice to have And cooling is a terrible place to save money...

 

MOBO: This one of the best motherboard for gaming (had it myself before my father "fucked it over" when he forced the CPU in...) and the looks is amazing so this is the way to go.

 

RAM: I also got this myself and this is the perfect match between high frequency (1866 is a bit better then 1600 although it ain't that remarkable) and low latency (CL9 gaming grade) And since it is 4 DIMs it fill all of the slots on the board which I think is the best since it looks the best.

 

SSDs: These are epic I got a 750 GB myself and it performs like a champ while still remaining one of the highest capacity SSDs for consumers on the market.

 

HDDs: These are the utmost in HDD performance and pretty much performs double that of a plain normal HDD (This got higher RPM and cache). Which is kinda awesome.

 

GPUS: 780s will always be a winner in my heart and although the Titan is better this is the bang for your buck performance GPU. AND this one is important: NEVER EVER get a 7990! The dual GPU on one card solution that AMD rolls with is absolutely terrible! It will actually hurt the experience cause of massive microstuttering... Even Linus doesn't like it... And no I am not a Nvidia fanboy it is just that this ain't worth it.  Get yourself a 7990 in the case of AMD.

 

Case: I pretty much explained this above but it is just plain awesome.

 

PSU: I also got this myself and it is just plain awesome. Way overkill for my build but if you overclock this build then this is what you need.

 

So to round it all of:

 

1) I am not a AMD hater but get a 770 or dual 780s since they are just plain better due to things as GPU Boost 2.0 and being cooler.

 

2) I really love this case and that it is almost an M-itx case in size but fits ATX mobos.

 

3) I own almost every single one of these parts and I have studied the rest of them for months and that is also why I am recommending them. I like to provide people with the most extensive, easily understandable, accurtate and most uber awesome advice which I can possibly give them and therefore I know that what I say is true and correct.

 

I really hope this helps you because I have now spent litteraly over an hour making this post possible and as correct as a answer can be. So have a nice day/night and stay safe mate! Drinking won't help you here in life. Fragging people in BF3/COD/everything else does. And the above mentioned PCs makes that a reality.

Off topic: I am sorry for the serious nature of this post but I had more emoticons in the original post then the forum rules would allow so I just had to remove some random ones.

I really appreciate this in-depth breakdown!

This is what I am currently thinking http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hc0J

1) That case is FANTASTIC, but it is a bit too big...

2)  For the price difference it is hard to justify not getting a 7990 at $620 over a $410 770 (only 2gb VRAM).

3)  IF (and I typically lean away from it) I am not going to SLI/Crossfire than I don't need that large of a mobo.

4) I am using this only for gaming, and really don't need that much storage capacity.

5) That RAM looks great, I might look at better ram, but it is an easy, easy upgrade later.

6) If I ever consider rendering, it will be on such a low lever, that I really don't think an i7 is needed.

 

PS:  I don't drink, I see the damage it most often causes and the problems it always floats around and I chose not to be a part of that.  I still go out with friends, its just I choose not to be ashamed of myself the next day!

 

I am really thankful for your post, I will consider the points you have raised!

[Titanicium]

I really appreciate this in-depth breakdown!

This is what I am currently thinking http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hc0J

1) That case is FANTASTIC, but it is a bit too big...

2)  For the price difference it is hard to justify not getting a 7990 at $620 over a $410 770 (only 2gb VRAM).

3)  IF (and I typically lean away from it) I am not going to SLI/Crossfire than I don't need that large of a mobo.

4) I am using this only for gaming, and really don't need that much storage capacity.

5) That RAM looks great, I might look at better ram, but it is an easy, easy upgrade later.

6) If I ever consider rendering, it will be on such a low lever, that I really don't think an i7 is needed.

 

PS:  I don't drink, I see the damage it most often causes and the problems it always floats around and I chose not to be a part of that.  I still go out with friends, its just I choose not to be ashamed of myself the next day!

 

I am really thankful for your post, I will consider the points you have raised!

 

I am glad to help in any way possible  Therefore i will now answer you back on those "bulletpoints".

 

1) It is a bit bigger then i.e the CM 120 Elite but it packs so many more features and space that I thought it at least was worth bringing up. It is at least very rugged of nature and is therefore extremely nice to have for i.e traveling

 

And btw: It comes with either a window or a see-thorugh mesh on the top so you need to decide on which model you want.

 

2) Trust me on this one: The 770 from ASUS equals and surpasses the 7970 in all uses and the 7990 is two downgraded and downclocked 7970 on one card. This requires some weird ass SLI/Crossfire which makes the card so called "microstutter". Simplified it is bascically lag which has nothing to do with Frame rates to do. Which sucks. So please if not the 770 or the 780 then get the 7970 because the 7990 is just not worth it...

 

You can also get the 770 with a 4 Gb configuration It is just that that version where not an option on PCpartpicker and therefore I didn't choose it

 

3) Agreed It is just that I have owned the Formula 6 and researched it extensively and therefore i know it in and out. But something like the ROG Impact 6 would absolutely suffice for this build. I just thought it blended nicely in with the colour and all

 

4) I see Normally people need a lot of space for games but if you don't download loads of crappy ones and go for the quality ones then you should be fine with less indeed. I myself got a Samsung 750 GB EVO drive as my only storage so maybe something like that would suffice for you?

 

5) This is hands down in my opinion the best gaming ram. Things like Corsair Platinums are overpriced for their looks (they look great but so do these ) and since they are higher latency RAM they really ain't that optimal for gaming in my opinion...

 

6) In my experiences it ain't something you decide when you come close to the end of your school time here in life. It is something school projects force you to do... And having a good CPU is very good then.

And to be honest: It ain't that much more expensive then the 4670K and when you own it you can brag about having a i7 CPU

 

Finally someone at our/your (I myself is 15 so coming there fast) whom actually see the dangers of drinking! Friends and computers are forever whilst alcohol is for a night of fun and a day of hell...

 

Always happy to help so PM me if there is something other then this particular case you where wondering about and I will come right back to you as soon as I have safe and correct info

 

PS: 10 emoticons per post is really not optimal for teenagers with big answers -.-

[lachyman]

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I HAVE TO DISAGREE.

1. There is no more microstuttering

2. 4GB 770 is one of the biggest shit in GPU world

3. He should get that 250GB SSD and a HDD

4. No need for i7.

5. No need for expensive MB

You ain't being helpful at all, even if you have detailed texts your advice is off.

[helping]

He might want to use haswell for the really low power consumption because with a good dedicated gpu and ivy and whatever else he runs might be a little to much for the power

Doesn't matter, he can get either processor, the choice is arbitrary depending on the best board that suits his needs demands.

 

He has enough power for whatever he can fit in there, save for dual GPU cards.

[Titanicium]

I HAVE TO DISAGREE.

1. There is no more microstuttering

2. 4GB 770 is one of the biggest shit in GPU world

3. He should get that 250GB SSD and a HDD

4. No need for i7.

5. No need for expensive MB

You ain't being helpful at all, even if you have detailed texts your advice is off.

 

Disagreements and the following arguments is what progresses human nature right? Therefore I am happy do disagree with you back and state my arguments for my statements

 

1) There will always be some microstuttering on the dual GPUs on the same card no mather what AMD does to their drivers. So maybe they have solved most of it but I would still argue against buying any kind of dual GPU card.

 

2) Why is that so? It is true so I hardly see any reason for it to be shit If you disagree then just Google it Galaxy got one.

 

3) Saying that he should get a HDD is saying that he should get a cat without stating which... There is a mayor difference in them and most of them I will not claim to be appropiate for games. In my mind:

 

SSD: Games and files that are being read often.

 

HDD: Everything else.

 

I personally doesn't have a single picture nor movie on my computer so my solution was a SSD-Only build. And this guy stated that he did not need a ton of Sace and therefore I would propose a 750 GB SSD but that is just my 2 cents

 

4) Maybe. maybe not. In my experience it is always good to be able to render during the years in school but I might be wrong in this case. Plus: I don't have a 4670K and have never cared to study it and can therefore not state if it is good or not. I don't recommend things I know nothing about

 

5) Again: If he want i.e a Impact then go ahead but I do not own a Impact and have only seen a couple of reviews for it so how am I supposed to recommend it?

 

I think I am being helpful but that ain't really up to me to decide That is up to the person whom I am helping.

[Stonep11]

Doesn't matter, he can get either processor, the choice is arbitrary depending on the best board that suits his needs demands.

 

He has enough power for whatever he can fit in there, save for dual GPU cards.

I've got a 760W PSU in there now!

[Stonep11]

I am glad to help in any way possible  Therefore i will now answer you back on those "bulletpoints".

 

1) It is a bit bigger then i.e the CM 120 Elite but it packs so many more features and space that I thought it at least was worth bringing up. It is at least very rugged of nature and is therefore extremely nice to have for i.e traveling

 

And btw: It comes with either a window or a see-thorugh mesh on the top so you need to decide on which model you want.

 

2) Trust me on this one: The 770 from ASUS equals and surpasses the 7970 in all uses and the 7990 is two downgraded and downclocked 7970 on one card. This requires some weird ass SLI/Crossfire which makes the card so called "microstutter". Simplified it is bascically lag which has nothing to do with Frame rates to do. Which sucks. So please if not the 770 or the 780 then get the 7970 because the 7990 is just not worth it...

 

You can also get the 770 with a 4 Gb configuration It is just that that version where not an option on PCpartpicker and therefore I didn't choose it

 

3) Agreed It is just that I have owned the Formula 6 and researched it extensively and therefore i know it in and out. But something like the ROG Impact 6 would absolutely suffice for this build. I just thought it blended nicely in with the colour and all

 

4) I see Normally people need a lot of space for games but if you don't download loads of crappy ones and go for the quality ones then you should be fine with less indeed. I myself got a Samsung 750 GB EVO drive as my only storage so maybe something like that would suffice for you?

 

5) This is hands down in my opinion the best gaming ram. Things like Corsair Platinums are overpriced for their looks (they look great but so do these ) and since they are higher latency RAM they really ain't that optimal for gaming in my opinion...

 

6) In my experiences it ain't something you decide when you come close to the end of your school time here in life. It is something school projects force you to do... And having a good CPU is very good then.

And to be honest: It ain't that much more expensive then the 4670K and when you own it you can brag about having a i7 CPU

 

Finally someone at our/your (I myself is 15 so coming there fast) whom actually see the dangers of drinking! Friends and computers are forever whilst alcohol is for a night of fun and a day of hell...

 

Always happy to help so PM me if there is something other then this particular case you where wondering about and I will come right back to you as soon as I have safe and correct info

 

PS: 10 emoticons per post is really not optimal for teenagers with big answers -.-

I appreciate the response!

[helping]

I've got a 760W PSU in there now!

I was referencing the Hadron which comes with it's own PSU.

 

That CM case looks flimsy and butt ugly IMO, I wouldn't go with it but it's your computer do what you want

[WoodenMarker]

Edits: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hhhu

Remove h80i and case stock fans.

Hyperborea for h80i and front intake. F8 PWM for side intake.

[Stonep11]

I was referencing the Hadron which comes with it's own PSU.

 

That CM case looks flimsy and butt ugly IMO, I wouldn't go with it but it's your computer do what you want

CM cases from this series (similar to the HAF lineup) are actually very strong, with good airflow, and looks are very subjective I get that.

[Stonep11]

Edits: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Hhhu

Remove h80i and case stock fans.

Hyperborea for h80i and front intake. F8 PWM for side intake.

Good idea! Very I like that new RAM and mobo too!

[lachyman]

Disagreements and the following arguments is what progresses human nature right? Therefore I am happy do disagree with you back and state my arguments for my statements

1) There will always be some microstuttering on the dual GPUs on the same card no mather what AMD does to their drivers. So maybe they have solved most of it but I would still argue against buying any kind of dual GPU card.

2) Why is that so? It is true so I hardly see any reason for it to be shit If you disagree then just Google it Galaxy got one.

3) Saying that he should get a HDD is saying that he should get a cat without stating which... There is a mayor difference in them and most of them I will not claim to be appropiate for games. In my mind:

SSD: Games and files that are being read often.

HDD: Everything else.

I personally doesn't have a single picture nor movie on my computer so my solution was a SSD-Only build. And this guy stated that he did not need a ton of Sace and therefore I would propose a 750 GB SSD but that is just my 2 cents

4) Maybe. maybe not. In my experience it is always good to be able to render during the years in school but I might be wrong in this case. Plus: I don't have a 4670K and have never cared to study it and can therefore not state if it is good or not. I don't recommend things I know nothing about

5) Again: If he want i.e a Impact then go ahead but I do not own a Impact and have only seen a couple of reviews for it so how am I supposed to recommend it?

I think I am being helpful but that ain't really up to me to decide That is up to the person whom I am helping.

1. Microstuttering became minimal with 2 7970s and 7990 even has a special driver which reduces it further.

2. GTX770 has a 256bit bus. Not to say that it's too weak to use that much VRAM on such a small bus. If he wanted sigle GPU, he should most likely go for a 780 or 7970, which is cheaper and has nicer memory config.

3. I think that he should get 250GB SSD and 1TB Barracuda. Games have little to none performance increase while loading, so he should just put his OS, and most played games like BF4 or so in there. The 1TB drive will be for mass storage and games that he wants to try. Almost the same performance for less money and without necesarilly hurting the SSD.

4. i7 is an i5 with HT, they perform the same in games and i5 can handle elementary rendering too.

5. Impact is a waste of money for him, since it has so many features he won't use. Like why should he want SoundFX when he has an external soundcard?

[Titanicium]

I appreciate the response!

 

I am glad to hear so.

 

 

 

1. Microstuttering became minimal with 2 7970s and 7990 even has a special driver which reduces it further.

2. GTX770 has a 256bit bus. Not to say that it's too weak to use that much VRAM on such a small bus. If he wanted sigle GPU, he should most likely go for a 780 or 7970, which is cheaper and has nicer memory config.

3. I think that he should get 250GB SSD and 1TB Barracuda. Games have little to none performance increase while loading, so he should just put his OS, and most played games like BF4 or so in there. The 1TB drive will be for mass storage and games that he wants to try. Almost the same performance for less money and without necesarilly hurting the SSD.

4. i7 is an i5 with HT, they perform the same in games and i5 can handle elementary rendering too.

5. Impact is a waste of money for him, since it has so many features he won't use. Like why should he want SoundFX when he has an external soundcard?

 

1) Dual GPUs on a single card will never be stable and will always include some inherit micro stutter so no matter what AMD has done they will never solve it. Neither will Nvidia so I am not saying that AMD is the complete underdog here.

 

2) Maybe it is too weak but I haven´t heard anything about it being too weak... But I will anyway swap it for a 780 in the recommended build under

 

3) In games like BF4 it might not matter too much but in games like Skyrim you will pull your hair out gaming on a HDD after gaming on a SSD due to the constant loading of content. Also a SSD doesn´t get worn out by being read from so they are ideal for applications that are being read from a lot.

 

4) True and since he apparently does not need rendering capabilities then I will recommend a 4670K below I know when I am wrong

 

5) Impact does have a lot of features that he won´t use the bulk of the money haven´t went into those extra features but the overall superior quality of the board. I recommend using quality parts for safety and ease of mind but if he want to live on the edge for the sake of saving a few dollars then go ahead.

 

I will now list my new recommendation with a few changes to it except from just swapping some existing parts.

 

1) I have now but in a replacement for the standard fans since they are usually just a piece of shit (you pay for a case not the fans that come with it ) Put the AF (Air Flow optimized) in the back and the SP (Static Pressure optimized) on the rad and you are good to go

 

2) I have put in Thermal compound since it is cheap and can widely enhance your experience Noctua is widely known for quality and there I have chosen them here.

 

3) It is a few hundred dollars above 2000 USD so it is more expensive but what you get is a PC of the utmost quality, reliability, looks and performance for an M-itx build This will reward you for many years to come and ensure that you still got a functioning computer the day you graduate (do they graduate from college in USA or is it called something else?) instead of having a pc which got problems during the entirety of College

 

The new recommendation for your build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1HoLO

 

I am open for discussion so bring it on

[Titanicium]

Have you decided on something yet @Stonep11?