Final plan,

[Flav]

Hi,

I'm going to buy my parts for my new gaming rig (and my first build).

I have 700€, and MSI GTX 950 and a 1366x768 monitor.

 

CPU : AMD FX8320E Black Edition 140€

RAM : Kingston HyperX Savage (2x8go) 76,5€

HDD :  Seagate SSHD 1To 75€

Keyboard : Spirit of gamer PRO-K2 16€

CPU Cooler : Be Quiet Pure Rock 40€

PSU : Corsair CX500M 80€

Motherboard : MSI 970 Gaming 110€

Case : Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Window Silver 148€       Corsair Carbide SPEC ALPHA 100€ (edit2)

 

OS : Windows 10 Home 135€ (edit)

 

Feel free to ask any question

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Flav said:

 

You're spending far too much on your case, and you probably don't need the cooler.

 

Buy an i5 and a better power supply, the CX series is sub par

[Ryoutarou97]

CPU: cheap i5

CPU Cooler: stock intel cooler or very cheap aftermarket cooler

Motherboard: Cheapest decent one you can find

RAM: Sure, why not?

SSD + HDD: 120GB + 1TB. An SSHD is not worth it.

Case: Not one that will cost more than your CPU

PSU: EVGA b2 500w, probably. IDK pricing in UK.

 

I'm in the US so I don't UK pricing off the top of my head so I can't come up with a precise parts list, sorry.

[pagani123]

for a budget gaming rig it is a little disconcerting that your most expensive is thecase (thins is coming from a case fanatic) personally i would put a little more money into parts. 

[ChrisCross]

3 minutes ago, Flav said:

...

where are you in europe? (which country)

 

also i would recommend the fractal design core 2500 over the silent base 800. i worked with both and the bequiet is better but its not worth 3x the cost.

[Flav]

1 hour ago, ChrisCross said:

where are you in europe? (which country)

 

also i would recommend the fractal design core 2500 over the silent base 800. i worked with both and the bequiet is better but its not worth 3x the cost.

France, see materiel.net for prices. (And english is not my native language so I could make some mistakes in my posts)

 

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

You're spending far too much on your case, and you probably don't need the cooler.

 

Buy an i5 and a better power supply, the CX series is sub par

 

1 hour ago, Maybach123 said:

for a budget gaming rig it is a little disconcerting that your most expensive is thecase (thins is coming from a case fanatic) personally i would put a little more money into parts. 

In which part(s) I should invest for a significant better performances ?

Which better supply (capable of SLI)

1 hour ago, Ryoutarou97 said:

CPU: cheap i5

CPU Cooler: stock intel cooler or very cheap aftermarket cooler

Motherboard: Cheapest decent one you can find

RAM: Sure, why not?

SSD + HDD: 120GB + 1TB. An SSHD is not worth it.

Case: Not one that will cost more than your CPU

PSU: EVGA b2 500w, probably. IDK pricing in UK.

 

I'm in the US so I don't UK pricing off the top of my head so I can't come up with a precise parts list, sorry.

 

For all of you, I'm actually looking for a easy-upgradable PC (futur SLI, watercooling AIO, ...things), that can work for ~8 years (with maintenance).

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Flav said:

 

It would be a waste of money to run dual 950s, don't worry about that, probably something from seasonic, XFX(non XT), higher end corsair, EVGA (G2, GQ)

Mostly you'd want an i5, unless you can return the 950 in which case a 380 4GB would be a way better buy if it's available.

[Flav]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

It would be a waste of money to run dual 950s, don't worry about that, probably something from seasonic, XFX(non XT), higher end corsair, EVGA (G2, GQ)

Mostly you'd want an i5, unless you can return the 950 in which case a 380 4GB would be a way better buy if it's available.

No possible return of my 950, gonna check PSU

[Ryoutarou97]

1 hour ago, Flav said:

France, see materiel.net for prices. (And english is not my native language so I could make some mistakes in my posts)

 

 

In which part(s) I should invest for a significant better performances ?

Which better supply (capable of SLI)

 

For all of you, I'm actually looking for a easy-upgradable PC (futur SLI, watercooling AIO, ...things), that can work for ~8 years (with maintenance).

Je parle un petit peu de Francais si c'est plus facile pour vous et j'ai besoin une personne pour pratiquer. Desole pour des accents, mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils et mon clavier n'avez pas ils.

 

Pour le CPU je pense que le i5 est un meilleur choix parce qu'il est superieur. Pure et simple. Vous n'avez pas besoin un cooler (glaciere, Google Transducteur dit). SLI sur un 950 n'est pas un bonne idee. Un AMD FX CPU n'est pas extensible. Un intel CPU n'est bon aussi, mais un i7 est possible au moins et il a meilleur performance au un TDP 40+w au moins de le AMD CPU.  Avec un glaciere pas chere il va etre plus froid que le FX. Par le temps quand vous etes pret mettre au niveau il va etre une meilleure carte probablement qui a plus de VRAM et performance egale pour un prix similaire a le 950 (un 960, possiblement).

 

Pour un PSU je pense que un EVGA B2, GS, ou G2 est bonne mais je ne sais pas les prix dans France. L'addition de 8gb de RAM va etre tres facile dans 5 annees si vous avez besoin et par chance un nouveau GPU dans 4-6 annees. Un SSD est indispensable mais si vous n'achetez pas un SSD utilise un HDD- SSHDs n'ajoute pas le performance beaucoup mais ils sont 20-50% plus chere. 

 

Est-ce que j'ai faire des erreurs?

[FoxHunter]

4 hours ago, Flav said:

Hi,

I'm going to buy my parts for my new gaming rig (and my first build).

I have 700€, and MSI GTX 950 and a 1366x768 monitor.

 

CPU : AMD FX8320E Black Edition 140€

RAM : Kingston HyperX Savage (2x8go) 76,5€

HDD :  Seagate SSHD 1To 75€

Keyboard : Spirit of gamer PRO-K2 16€

CPU Cooler : Be Quiet Pure Rock 40€

PSU : Corsair CX500M 80€

Motherboard : MSI 970 Gaming 110€

Case : Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Window Silver 148€

OS : Windows 10 Home 135€ (edit)

 

Feel free to ask any question

You can cheap out on some things that wont give you better performaance and getting better stuff.

 

Go only with 8GB, 16GB and a GTX 950 is overkill. A FX8320E with a GTX 950 only needs a 430w, no overclocking no need for expensive cooling. And you're spending a lot on your case, Silverstone, CM and Phanteks have cases that are silent and cheap. And why the 970 Gaming?  A Krait will do the same job with that E CPU.

 

Also, RAM is only RAM, Savage are the series where Kingston have more effort to do less CAS Latency while maintaining high speeds.

 

Get a better keyboard, and even a better CPU.

[Flav]

10 minutes ago, Ryoutarou97 said:

Je parle un petit peu de Francais si c'est plus facile pour vous et j'ai besoin une personne pour pratiquer. Desole pour des accents, mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils et mon clavier n'avez pas ils.

 

Pour le CPU je pense que le i5 est un meilleur choix parce qu'il est superieur. Pure et simple. Vous n'avez pas besoin un cooler (glaciere, Google Transducteur dit). SLI sur un 950 n'est pas un bonne idee. Un AMD FX CPU n'est pas extensible. Un intel CPU n'est bon aussi, mais un i7 est possible au moins et il a meilleur performance au un TDP 40+w au moins de le AMD CPU.  Avec un glaciere pas chere il va etre plus froid que le FX. Par le temps quand vous etes pret mettre au niveau il va etre une meilleure carte probablement qui a plus de VRAM et performance egale pour un prix similaire a le 950 (un 960, possiblement).

 

Pour un PSU je pense que un EVGA B2, GS, ou G2 est bonne mais je ne sais pas les prix dans France. L'addition de 8gb de RAM va etre tres facile dans 5 annees si vous avez besoin et par chance un nouveau GPU dans 4-6 annees. Un SSD est indispensable mais si vous n'achetez pas un SSD utilise un HDD- SSHDs n'ajoute pas le performance beaucoup mais ils sont 20-50% plus chere. 

 

Est-ce que j'ai faire des erreurs?

I'm quite good in english, but I can teach you some things in french

 

 

Spoiler

 

• CPU cooler = ventirad (venti-->ventilateur-->fan + rad-->radiateur-->radiator)
• "Un AMD FX CPU", "Un intel CPU"
• PSU = Alimentation (same in english i guess)
• mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils et mon clavier n'avez pas ils.
  • mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils eux et mon clavier n'avez pas ils eux. (bizarre mais compréhensible)
  • Désolé pour les accents, mais je ne connais pas leurs unicode et mon clavier ne les a pas. (vrai phrases 100% correcte)
• transducteur : traducteur
• "Meilleur" has more sens in this case than "supérieur"
• "les prix dans en France"
• "Un AMD FX CPU n'est pas extensible." : didn't undestand at all.
• "L'addition ajout de 8gb de RAM" --> addition = 1+1, ajout = an old thing with a new thing
• and other little mistakes

 

Please use wordreference.com, it's way better than google translate.

 

I won't lie, it's not empty of mistakes, but it's largely well-writed to be understood by a french-speaking person.

Revenons à nos moutons

 

 

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Why is a 950 "bad" ?

Why should I get a EVGA PSU rather than a Corsair CX...?

950+950>960 ?

Why is a SSD essential ?

[Flav]

9 minutes ago, FoxHunter said:

You can cheap out on some things that wont give you better performaance and getting better stuff.

 

Go only with 8GB, 16GB and a GTX 950 is overkill. A FX8320E with a GTX 950 only needs a 430w, no overclocking no need for expensive cooling. And you're spending a lot on your case, Silverstone, CM and Phanteks have cases that are silent and cheap. And why the 970 Gaming?  A Krait will do the same job with that E CPU.

 

Also, RAM is only RAM, Savage are the series where Kingston have more effort to do less CAS Latency while maintaining high speeds.

 

Get a better keyboard, and even a better CPU.

Case, you're right : updated first post : Corsair Carbide SPEC ALPHA 100euro

Will the stock cooler be enough to cool the FX8320E at load (and quiet) ?

The only krait I find is the MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition and is 111euro with equal or less features than the 970 gaming

 

(going to sleep as it's almost midnight here)

0A SLI Krait Edit

[stconquest]

5 hours ago, Flav said:

Hi,

I'm going to buy my parts for my new gaming rig (and my first build).

I have 700€, and MSI GTX 950 and a 1366x768 monitor.

 

CPU : AMD FX8320E Black Edition 140€

RAM : Kingston HyperX Savage (2x8go) 76,5€

HDD :  Seagate SSHD 1To 75€

Keyboard : Spirit of gamer PRO-K2 16€

CPU Cooler : Be Quiet Pure Rock 40€

PSU : Corsair CX500M 80€

Motherboard : MSI 970 Gaming 110€

Case : Be Quiet Silent Base 800 Window Silver 148€       Corsair Carbide SPEC ALPHA 100€ (edit2)

 

OS : Windows 10 Home 135€ (edit)

 

Feel free to ask any question

Cheaper than yours and better, l left Windows out:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€188.99 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€55.62 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€33.99 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.35 @ Amazon France)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€29.90 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€77.22 @ Amazon France)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€4.90 @ Amazon France)<<<Front Intake
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€4.90 @ Amazon France)<<<Front Intake
Total: €535.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-04 23:48 CEST+0200

[FoxHunter]

16 hours ago, Flav said:

Case, you're right : updated first post : Corsair Carbide SPEC ALPHA 100euro

Will the stock cooler be enough to cool the FX8320E at load (and quiet) ?

The only krait I find is the MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition and is 111euro with equal or less features than the 970 gaming

 

(going to sleep as it's almost midnight here)

0A SLI Krait Edit

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€202.90 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€36.62 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€84.99 @ Amazon France)
Memory: A-Data 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€21.39 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Seagate  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (€71.30 @ Amazon France)
Case: Corsair SPEC-ALPHA ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.26 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! PURE POWER 9 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€61.32 @ Amazon France)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard Wired Standard Keyboard  (€100.66 @ Amazon France)
Total: €660.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 15:59 CEST+0200

 

This is a lot better, and only on Amazon France. And most parts are Free Shipping.

I think you should go with i5 and DDR4, FX is an 5yr old CPU, most features are third party.

[Flav]

16 hours ago, stconquest said:

Cheaper than yours and better, l left Windows out:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€188.99 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€55.62 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€33.99 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€50.35 @ Amazon France)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€29.90 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€77.22 @ Amazon France)
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€4.90 @ Amazon France)<<<Front Intake
Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F005-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  (€4.90 @ Amazon France)<<<Front Intake
Total: €535.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-04 23:48 CEST+0200

 

19 minutes ago, FoxHunter said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€202.90 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€36.62 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€84.99 @ Amazon France)
Memory: A-Data 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€21.39 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Seagate  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (€71.30 @ Amazon France)
Case: Corsair SPEC-ALPHA ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.26 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! PURE POWER 9 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€61.32 @ Amazon France)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard Wired Standard Keyboard  (€100.66 @ Amazon France)
Total: €660.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-05 15:59 CEST+0200

 

This is a lot better, and only on Amazon France. And most parts are Free Shipping.

I think you should go with i5 and DDR4, FX is an 5yr old CPU, most features are third party.

You're both right, I'm going to update my plan. Thanks

[stconquest]

10 minutes ago, Flav said:

 

You're both right, I'm going to update my plan. Thanks

Careful with FoxHunter's build.  The RAM speed is not supported by the motherboard, and the power supply is not that great at all. 

[Flav]

1 hour ago, stconquest said:

Careful with FoxHunter's build.  The RAM speed is not supported by the motherboard, and the power supply is not that great at all. 

I was not going to completely follow his build

[Ryoutarou97]

21 hours ago, Flav said:

I'm quite good in english, but I can teach you some things in french

 

 

  Hide contents

 

• CPU cooler = ventirad (venti-->ventilateur-->fan + rad-->radiateur-->radiator)
• "Un AMD FX CPU", "Un intel CPU"
• PSU = Alimentation (same in english i guess)
• mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils et mon clavier n'avez pas ils.
  • mais je ne sais pas le unicode pour ils eux et mon clavier n'avez pas ils eux. (bizarre mais compréhensible)
  • Désolé pour les accents, mais je ne connais pas leurs unicode et mon clavier ne les a pas. (vrai phrases 100% correcte)
• transducteur : traducteur
• "Meilleur" has more sens in this case than "supérieur"
• "les prix dans en France"
• "Un AMD FX CPU n'est pas extensible." : didn't undestand at all.
• "L'addition ajout de 8gb de RAM" --> addition = 1+1, ajout = an old thing with a new thing
• and other little mistakes

 

Please use wordreference.com, it's way better than google translate.

 

I won't lie, it's not empty of mistakes, but it's largely well-writed to be understood by a french-speaking person.

Revenons à nos moutons

 

 

 

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Why is a 950 "bad" ?

Why should I get a EVGA PSU rather than a Corsair CX...?

950+950>960 ?

Why is a SSD essential ?

And here I was thinking I could speak this language  Thanks for the help, I'll make sure to review that stuff.

 

A 950 isn't bad, just that by the time you go to upgrade (assuming that's in 2 or 3 years which for an 8 year computer seems a reasonable timeframe) there will be a card that performs like a 2x950for the price of that second 950.

 

CX PSUs are generally not recommended. Corsair's high end stuff is really good, but CX series it very overrated. It's not like they won't work, and if they're significantly cheaper go for them, but the b2, g2, and gs are just better power supplies for comparable costs.

 

950x2 > 960. 950 and then upgrade to 4gb (estimate) card in the future > 950x2 and if you have more money in a few years you can get a step up instead of locking yourself into getting another 950.

 

It's not really essential, I had just had enough of tabbing over to a translator and that's the best word I had. SSDs are amazing. Even if you just get a small one for the boot drive it makes the entire system much more snappy. Where a GPU is the main way that performance scales in games and a cpu is the way to render video faster an SSD is pretty much the equivalent for general use. SSD vs HDD is one of the most noticeable differences you will see when browsing the web or working in MS Word or doing pretty mucha any general computer stuff.

[FoxHunter]

On 05/05/2016 at 11:35 AM, stconquest said:

Careful with FoxHunter's build.  The RAM speed is not supported by the motherboard, and the power supply is not that great at all. 

The RAM is the cheaper 8GB kit it had on PCPP, so running at 2133 MHz won't make any difference than buying a 2133MHz kit. And the PSU, agreed. Updated the PSU.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€202.90 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€36.62 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€83.08 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: A-Data 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€21.36 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Seagate  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (€71.30 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-ALPHA ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.26 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Newton R3 600W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€66.48 @ Amazon France) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire TK Mechanical Keyboard Wired Standard Keyboard  (€100.66 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €663.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-06 16:38 CEST+0200

 

Only €2,22 more for a 600w 80+ Platinum Semi-Modular from a known brand with great reputation.