Looking at 4k gaming..

[ledwaan]

Alright guys, I posted a topic yesterday about going to 1440p, I think i'll just go straight to 4k tbf and wait another month to save up some money, the monitor i'm looking at has to be 32 inch, anything less is to small for my room and anything bigger is to much and i'm only looking at 16:9

My rig is a GTX980 with an i7 4790k, I don't mind using medium settings as long as I'm getting 45fps plus, as this monitor comes with gync, also I use 1600mhz 16gb ram right now, would I need say 2400mhz ram for 4k?

 

So I found a monitor yesterday, any opinions on this?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Predator-XB321HK-Monitor-Adjustable/dp/B017U8Z61W/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1462194778&sr=1-4&keywords=4k+monitor+acer

 

Also how does 4k work with games a few years old that don't natively support it? just a quick ini tweak? the same for games from the early 2000's? thanks people

[othertomperson]

The only game I've had trouble with is KoTOR. It's worth checking widescreen gaming forum periodically for games like that though. That game has bigger issues now, though. I can't get it running at all on Windows 10.

[don_svetlio]

980? Yeah, no. Go for 1440p at best.

[ledwaan]

2 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

The only game I've had trouble with is KoTOR. It's worth checking widescreen gaming forum periodically for games like that though. That game has bigger issues now, though. I can't get it running at all on Windows 10.

Okay man thanks!

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

980? Yeah, no. Go for 1440p at best.

Why do you say that? I've seen many benchmarks at 4k on this card on medium settings, most games get around 45fps or more for a game a few years older, which are what I would play mostly, which I wouldn't mind with gync tbf

[othertomperson]

1 minute ago, ledwaan said:

Okay man thanks!

Why do you say that? I've seen many benchmarks at 4k on this card on medium settings, most games get around 45fps or more which I wouldn't mind with gync tbf

He says that because people have this absurd "ultra or nothing" stick up their arse when it comes to 4K, and only 4K for some reason.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, ledwaan said:

Okay man thanks!

Why do you say that? I've seen many benchmarks at 4k on this card on medium settings, most games get around 45fps or more which I wouldn't mind with gync tbf

Cause if a 980 Ti can't get 60fps stable at medium settings, you are looking at 40fps with frequent dips into the 30s or lower. Modern AAA releases won't run properly if at all - games like Witcher 3 will run at 30fps - you'd be shooting yourself in the leg.

[ChrisCross]

7 minutes ago, ledwaan said:

 

freesync monitors are in general less expensive. you just have to look for that goes down to 30fps. maybe go with a fury x or wait for next gen if you want to save some money. 

actually i would wait for next gen anyway. 

[ledwaan]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Cause if a 980 Ti can't get 60fps stable at medium settings, you are looking at 40fps with frequent dips into the 30s or lower. Modern AAA releases won't run properly if at all - games like Witcher 3 will run at 30fps - you'd be shooting yourself in the leg.

Well honestly, I barely play new AAA releases, I mainly play games from a few years ago, I still need to play GTA 5 and ROTTR, which I wouldn't mind waiting for a new GPU release to get, but thanks for your opinion, makes this a lot harder to decide

[don_svetlio]

Just now, ledwaan said:

Well honestly, I barely play new AAA releases, I mainly play games from a few years ago, I still need to play GTA 5 and ROTTR, which I wouldn't mind waiting for a new GPU release to get, but thanks for your opinion, makes this a lot harder to decide

I played ROTTR at 30fps - not exactly as fun as 60 on a 1440p screen. 1440p is already absurd pixel densitiy, 4K won't be a thing until Volta and GCN 5 since the newer cards will bring a 50% improvement, at best - still not enough to last a few years at 4K

[othertomperson]

3 minutes ago, ledwaan said:

Well honestly, I barely play new AAA releases, I mainly play games from a few years ago, I still need to play GTA 5 and ROTTR, which I wouldn't mind waiting for a new GPU release to get, but thanks for your opinion, makes this a lot harder to decide

GTA 5 isn't as demanding as people seem to think. It's pretty easy to maintain 60 fps at a mix of ultra, high and very high settings on a pair of 970s at 4K. A single 980 will easily play at medium settings.

 

This idea of the 980 Ti only managing 30fps at medium has been pulled completely from his arse tbh. Either that, or he is biased only towards looking at the most demanding games available to try and justify his point.

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

GTA 5 isn't as demanding as people seem to think. It's pretty easy to maintain 60 fps at a mix of ultra, high and very high settings on a pair of 970s at 4K. A single 980 will easily play at medium settings.

 

This idea of the 980 Ti only managing 30fps at medium has been pulled completely from his arse tbh. Either that, or he is biased only towards looking at the most demanding games available to try and justify his point.

Nice try but you're putting words in my mouth - I said 980 Ti averages 60 at medium 4K.

[ledwaan]

The issue I have guys is that I wanna go to atleast 1440p, but then I don't wanna get a 1440p monitor for in a year or 2 to go to want to go to 4k, but maybe 1440p is the best option right now.

So how do games run at 1440p that don't support it natively? an ini tweak? should I upgrade my ram for 1440p?

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, ledwaan said:

The issue I have guys is that I wanna go to atleast 1440p, but then I don't wanna get a 1440p monitor for in a year or 2 to go to want to go to 4k, but maybe 1440p is the best option right now.

So how do games run at 1440p that don't support it natively? an ini tweak? should I upgrade my ram for 1440p?

16GB of 1600MHz DDR3 is all you need for 1440p Ultra. 980 is also a 1440p card so you can expect high-ultra 60fps

[othertomperson]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Nice try but you're putting words in my mouth - I said 980 Ti averages 60 at medium 4K.

If you're forcing vsync on, you'd be correct. Otherwise that's not true.

 

Personally what I would do is I would get 4K now, play at mostly medium settings for a while, then as soon as Pascal is released and ebay is flooded with used 980s, go SLI and play at ultra 60fps.

[ledwaan]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Nice try but you're putting words in my mouth - I said 980 Ti averages 60 at medium 4K.

Every bit of 4k advice is appreciated

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

16GB of 1600MHz DDR3 is all you need for 1440p Ultra. 980 is also a 1440p card so you can expect high-ultra 60fps

That's cool thanks! so umm how do I run a game at 1440p that only shows 1080p in the graphics options?

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, othertomperson said:

If you're forcing vsync on, you'd be correct. Otherwise that's not true.

 

Personally what I would do is I would get 4K now, play at mostly medium settings for a while, then as soon as Pascal is released and the ebay is flooded with used 980s, go SLI and play at ultra 60fps.

Because 4K is not remotely broken and full of issues, nooooo, there's no tons of people reporting issues with SLI or CF....

[othertomperson]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

Because 4K is not remotely broken and full of issues, nooooo, there's no tons of people reporting issues with SLI or CF....

What are you even blabbering on about? o.0

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

What are you even blabbering on about? o.0

Ask @i_build_nanosuits

[othertomperson]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Ask @i_build_nanosuits

Why? Is this the part where the guy with a single AMD card tells me about all of the problems I am supposedly facing with my SLI build? 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, othertomperson said:

Why? Is this the part where the guy with a single AMD card tells me about all of the problems I am supposedly facing with my SLI build? 

He has a 980 Ti and before that has had an SLI config.

[othertomperson]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

He has a 980 Ti and before that has had an SLI config.

I have an SLI config. And before this I had a different SLI config. Now tell me what exactly you think I am supposedly experiencing.

[Stefken89]

8 minutes ago, ledwaan said:

That's cool thanks! so umm how do I run a game at 1440p that only shows 1080p in the graphics options?

If you have a 1080p screen now and are looking at the options: a lot of games hide the resolutions you can't use... Most games support 1440p just fine.

[Krzych]

1440p is a way to go now if you want something better than 1080p. There is no point on going to 4K. You will suffer performance drop completely inadequate to visual quality gain. Actually, to get any kind of playable experience at 4K, you will have to drop your settings so low that you will actually get lower visual quality than on 1440p. 4K is absolutely useless for gaming at this point. Maybe in early 2017 when the most powerful cards of new gen will come out, and you will get two of them and multi GPU will be well supported, but now it is pointless. You are only loosing by going to 4K.

[othertomperson]

3 minutes ago, Krzych said:

1440p is a way to go now if you want something better than 1080p. There is no point on going to 4K. You will suffer performance drop completely inadequate to visual quality gain. Actually, to get any kind of playable experience at 4K, you will have to drop your settings so low that you will actually get lower visual quality than on 1440p. 4K is absolutely useless for gaming at this point. Maybe in early 2017 when the most powerful cards of new gen will come out, and you will get two of them and multi GPU will be well supported, but now it is pointless. You are only loosing by going to 4K.

Did you even read the part where OP said they don't play highly demanding, brand new AAA games? Even if that weren't the case, I would absolutely go 4K medium/high over 1440p ultra. And the fact that the 980 price is about to crash as Pascal is released making SLI stupidly affordable in a matter of months, foregoing 4K in favour of what was pretty decent back in 2011 is senseless.

[ledwaan]

1 hour ago, Krzych said:

1440p is a way to go now if you want something better than 1080p. There is no point on going to 4K. You will suffer performance drop completely inadequate to visual quality gain. Actually, to get any kind of playable experience at 4K, you will have to drop your settings so low that you will actually get lower visual quality than on 1440p. 4K is absolutely useless for gaming at this point. Maybe in early 2017 when the most powerful cards of new gen will come out, and you will get two of them and multi GPU will be well supported, but now it is pointless. You are only loosing by going to 4K.

Not sure dude, my friend says 4k at low looks better than 1440p at high, I wouldn't know, I don't play new AAA, I'm interested in a few yeh but I also don't mind waiting for the gpu refresh, I can't be assed to go 1440p to then consider wanting to go 4k in a few months if this gpu refresh is as big of a deal as Nvidia are making out