gpu at 60% while Cpu is at 100%

[MiguelitoIV]

when I play BF4 it shows that my gtx 960 is at 60% while being at 75 degrees celsius

and my i3 4170 is 100% at 60-69 celsius

 

is this normal?

is there a bottleneck?

[LynxThe1st]

100% Bottleneck no doubts at all

[trag1c]

If your cpu usage is pinned at 100% then yes you will bottleneck your GPU as there are not enough cycles to issue instructions to the GPU.

[millerb415]

first i need a little more information

1. what resolution

2. what frames

3. stock or aftermarket cooler

4. reference or non reference for the gpu

yes that is a bottle neck but the question is is it affecting performance and that is why i am asking 

[SneakyPancake17]

Ah! Yes my friend! This is what we would like to refer to as a "bottleneck" (as much as I hate that term and think it is WIDELY overused). 

First of all, what kind of cooler is on your 960, because 75 degrees celsius seems pretty hot for only 60% load.

Second, how are you observing this? What program are you using? Are you seeing this on a second monitor or when you tab out of the game?

[MiguelitoIV]

1 minute ago, millerb415 said:

first i need a little more information

1. what resolution

2. what frames

3. stock or aftermarket cooler

4. reference or non reference for the gpu

playing at 768p

80 fps

stock

an inno 3d gtx 960 herculez x2 oc 2gb?

[SneakyPancake17]

1 minute ago, millerb415 said:

first i need a little more information

1. what resolution

2. what frames

3. stock or aftermarket cooler

4. reference or non reference for the gpu

 

2 minutes ago, trag1c said:

If your cpu usage is pinned at 100% then yes you will bottleneck your GPU as there are not enough cycles to issue instructions to the GPU.

 

3 minutes ago, LynxThe1st said:

100% Bottleneck no doubts at all

whoah hold up! Let's get all the info before we start making conlusions!  

[MiguelitoIV]

1 minute ago, SneakyPancake17 said:

Ah! Yes my friend! This is what we would like to refer to as a "bottleneck" (as much as I hate that term and think it is WIDELY overused). 

First of all, what kind of cooler is on your 960, because 75 degrees celsius seems pretty hot for only 60% load.

Second, how are you observing this? What program are you using? Are you seeing this on a second monitor or when you tab out of the game?

afterburner, the stock cooler that came with the card?

[SneakyPancake17]

1 minute ago, MiguelitoIV said:

playing at 768p

80 fps

stock

an inno 3d gtx 960 herculez x2 oc 2gb?

 

1 minute ago, MiguelitoIV said:

afterburner, the stock cooler that came with the card?

Hmm. This does seem like a bottleneck case. Only 80fps seems quite low for a 960 at 768p. I personally have a GTX 760 and average at about 80 at 1080p (of course this could depend on what settings you play at.)

Is it at all possible that this card is thermal throttling?

[trag1c]

Just now, SneakyPancake17 said:

 

 

whoah hold up! Let's get all the info before we start making conlusions!  

There is no more information to be gathered. Although he may not be suffering major issue's there is a bottleneck from his cpu to his gpu as there is simply not enough clock cycles to go around for the various engine subsystems. 100% CPU usage means no more throughput available, it is as simple as that.

[millerb415]

one more thing can your monitor run at higher resolutions but you have to drop it down and

what settings are your running high midd low

[SneakyPancake17]

1 minute ago, trag1c said:

There is no more information to be gathered. Although he may not be suffering major issue's there is a bottleneck from his cpu to his gpu as there is simply not enough clock cycles to go around for the various engine subsystems. 100% CPU usage means no more throughput available, it is as simple as that.

I'm not saying that there isn't a bottleneck. That is pretty apparent. However, I am saying that he could have other issues than a bottleneck. If his GPU is only at 60% load and reaching 75 degrees celsius, he may have some thermal issues, especially since his card's cooler is fairly beefy for a 960.

[MiguelitoIV]

7 minutes ago, SneakyPancake17 said:

 

 

whoah hold up! Let's get all the info before we start making conlusions!  

its not really pinned but it goes from 80% to 905 then 100%. it sticks around that level

[MiguelitoIV]

7 minutes ago, SneakyPancake17 said:

 

Hmm. This does seem like a bottleneck case. Only 80fps seems quite low for a 960 at 768p. I personally have a GTX 760 and average at about 80 at 1080p (of course this could depend on what settings you play at.)

Is it at all possible that this card is thermal throttling?

i play at ultra settings at 768p with 80+ frames

 

[SneakyPancake17]

Ah I see.

1 minute ago, MiguelitoIV said:

its not really pinned but it goes from 80% to 905 then 100%. it sticks around that level

This does seem like a bottleneck. I noticed your CPU is only a dual core, which can be an issue with some modern games. Also, even if it's not pinned at 100%, the CPU is still working pretty hard. When I play BF4, my CPU only gets up to about 40% load. That being said, I do have a very powerful CPU relative to my GPU.

[don_svetlio]

Take me down to bottleneck city
where the grass is green and performance shitty,

oh will you please take me hooooome

[MiguelitoIV]

4 minutes ago, SneakyPancake17 said:

Ah I see.

This does seem like a bottleneck. I noticed your CPU is only a dual core, which can be an issue with some modern games. Also, even if it's not pinned at 100%, the CPU is still working pretty hard. When I play BF4, my CPU only gets up to about 40% load. That being said, I do have a very powerful CPU relative to my GPU.

oh ok. what would be the best thing to do? will this bottleneck damage my hardware? is it ok to keep on with this?

 

and btw, my fan rpm is only at 1500 -1600? does this explain the high temp?
 

[MiguelitoIV]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

Take me down to bottleneck city
where the grass is green and performance shitty,

oh will you please take me hooooome

this sucks, i thought an i3 4170 would be great with a 960

[SneakyPancake17]

10 minutes ago, MiguelitoIV said:

oh ok. what would be the best thing to do? will this bottleneck damage my hardware? is it ok to keep on with this?

 

and btw, my fan rpm is only at 1500 -1600? does this explain the high temp?
 

A bottleneck won't damage your hardware, provided that you have adequate CPU cooling. The only issue that could arise would really be that the high CPU load would cause unpleasant temps with something like a stock cooler.

 

Also, yeah that would probably explain the thermals  

[trag1c]

11 minutes ago, MiguelitoIV said:

this sucks, i thought an i3 4170 would be great with a 960

Its fine CPU and GPU combo for most titles but with more CPU intensive titles its not that great.

[MiguelitoIV]

1 minute ago, SneakyPancake17 said:

A bottleneck won't damage your hardware, provided that you have adequate CPU cooling. The only issue that could arise would really be that the high CPU load would cause unpleasant temps with something like a stock cooler.

 

Also, yeah that would probably explain the thermals  

oh ok. my cpu only goes as at 60+ celsius

 

what would be a safe amount of rpm?

[MiguelitoIV]

2 minutes ago, trag1c said:

Its fine CPU and GPU combo for most titles but with more CPU intensive titles its not that great.

oh ok, that explains. thanks.

[SneakyPancake17]

7 minutes ago, MiguelitoIV said:

oh ok. my cpu only goes as at 60+ celsius

 

what would be a safe amount of rpm?

What you have now for the GPU is probably fine. Pretty much anything below the 80-85 degree mark at max load is ok for a GPU. I like to keep it under 80 . Also, the lower RPM your fans are, the quieter, so why not. I strapped a CPU cooler onto my GPU because the one it had was really loud .

[millerb415]

what is the max hz of your monitor if it is less then 80 then even if it is bottlenecking it is not impacting performance at all then why does it matter all the hardware is in safe temps and he is maxing out his game

[MiguelitoIV]

29 minutes ago, millerb415 said:

what is the max hz of your monitor if it is less then 80 then even if it is bottlenecking it is not impacting performance at all then why does it matter all the hardware is in safe temps and he is maxing out his game

its 60 hz