Backplane not working

[Aekim]

Hi guys,

so I've got a problem with my "new" minisas backplane.

I want to connect the backplane with the SFF8087 port directly into 4 sata ports on my motherboard. So I bought a ocr  SFF8087 to 4 Sata cable.

But the drives don't spin up until I disconnect the sas cable and don't show up in ubuntu (for testing).

Did I get the wrong cable or doesn't it work that way?

 

a6 6400k

asus a88xm-plus

8gb ram

backplane is the chenbro 80H102209-013

Drives are seagate and wd

 

Thanks for the help

[TapfererToaster]

You got the right version of the cable.

There are 2 versions.
OCR = reverse -> Sata ports on mainboard to backplane.
OCF = forward -> miniSAS from HBA/mainboard to Disks.

I'm pretty sure even when i connected the wrong cable to test which is which (they look the same..) my disk did spin up. The drives just didn't show up in any manager.

[leadeater]

5 hours ago, Aekim said:

Hi guys,

so I've got a problem with my "new" minisas backplane.

I want to connect the backplane with the SFF8087 port directly into 4 sata ports on my motherboard. So I bought a ocr  SFF8087 to 4 Sata cable.

But the drives don't spin up until I disconnect the sas cable and don't show up in ubuntu (for testing).

Did I get the wrong cable or doesn't it work that way?

 

a6 6400k

asus a88xm-plus

8gb ram

backplane is the chenbro 80H102209-013

Drives are seagate and wd

 

Thanks for the help

@scottyseng This setup requires a SFF-8087 to SATA reverse cable?

[scottyseng]

5 minutes ago, leadeater said:

@scottyseng This setup requires a SFF-8087 to SATA reverse cable?

Yeah, it should require a reverse cable. From Sata on the motherboard to the SAS on the backplane.

 

@Aekim

Could you link the exact website where you bought the cable? It might've been mislabeled or you might've received the wrong cable (It happens).

The drives are plain SATA drives right? Not SAS?

[Aekim]

@scottyseng It is an Inline cable from amazon marketplace and the only silver one they got so it should be the right one.

http://www.inline-info.de/de/inline-detail/artikel/3599/

 

the drives are all sata (2-8 years old)

Do I need to set a jumper on the backplane?

SGPIO Enable/Disable Connector is the only thing I don't understand what it is for but the drives work neither on or off.

 

[scottyseng]

28 minutes ago, Aekim said:

@scottyseng It is an Inline cable from amazon marketplace and the only silver one they got so it should be the right one.

http://www.inline-info.de/de/inline-detail/artikel/3599/

 

the drives are all sata (2-8 years old)

Do I need to set a jumper on the backplane?

SGPIO Enable/Disable Connector is the only thing I don't understand what it is for but the drives work neither on or off.

 

Weird, it should work fine then.

 

No, none of the jumpers need to be changed. SGPIO is just a header for the LED activity lights / information.

 

The four Sata motherboard ports are all on the same controller right?

[Aekim]

@scottyseng

I tried Sata 1-4 and 5-8 but amd boards should have all the same controller I guess (a88x).

 

Tomorrow I'll try an intel board perhaps it work.

[TommyB]

does it work with one cable sata cable to the motherboard ?

[TapfererToaster]

6 hours ago, TommyB said:

does it work with one cable sata cable to the motherboard ?

 

Normal One-to-One SATA cables do not work with the backplane since the backplane only got a miniSAS connector.

Here is the manual with pictures of it inside:

http://www.chenbro.com/en-global/DownloadFile/download/190

 

13 hours ago, Aekim said:

the drives are all sata (2-8 years old)

I do have a an old seagate barracuda 1TB drive that didn't show up in FreeNas when i first connected it to my HBA. That drive still had a jumper for the SATA I / II settings.

I had to remove to jumper(setting it to SATA II) for the drive to show up. I doubt it is related to your case, since you got also got newer drives.. but it might be worth looking into parts beside the cable.

 

I.E: Does the backplane work at all? do the statuslights light up with connceted HDDs?

[Aekim]

No the hdds are not that old ^^

The lights work and the sound too.

Beside that I can't really test the backplane. Perhaps the cable is too long or broken?

The sata Ports on the Motherboard work

 

[brwainer]

On April 7, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Aekim said:

@scottyseng It is an Inline cable from amazon marketplace and the only silver one they got so it should be the right one.

http://www.inline-info.de/de/inline-detail/artikel/3599/

 

the drives are all sata (2-8 years old)

Do I need to set a jumper on the backplane?

SGPIO Enable/Disable Connector is the only thing I don't understand what it is for but the drives work neither on or off.

 

Can you give us the link to the exact product page on Amazon?

 

Edit: According to this product page on the inline site, this is a Forward cable, and you need a Reverse cable.

[Aekim]

@brwainer

 

http://www.amazon.de/InLine-SFF8087-SAS-Anschlusskabel-SATA/dp/B00N4BKE7G?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

[brwainer]

1 minute ago, Aekim said:

@brwainer

 

http://www.amazon.de/InLine-SFF8087-SAS-Anschlusskabel-SATA/dp/B00N4BKE7G?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

So the Amazon listing says it is a reverse cable, but the product page you showed us says it is Forward. Obviously the question at this point is did you just find the wrong product page on the Inline site, or were you sent the wrong product by the seller on Amazon Marketplace? I don't know of a good way to find out. When I buy reverse breakout cables, I always buy Norco brand cables, because they may not be the cheapest but I know that Norco only sells reverse breakout cables, as an accessory for their chassis.

[Aekim]

@brwainer

 

http://www.inline-info.de/de/inline-detail/artikel/3594/

 

it was the wrong link i guess, that is the cable I got

I paid only 10 bucks for the cable and thought I don't need a 30€ one

[brwainer]

1 hour ago, Aekim said:

@brwainer

 

http://www.inline-info.de/de/inline-detail/artikel/3594/

 

it was the wrong link i guess, that is the cable I got

I paid only 10 bucks for the cable and thought I don't need a 30€ one

I can't read anything other than English but this page says OCF Forward in the middle of the item description. So again that's the wrong cable. 

[Aekim]

no in the first sentence it's classified as OCR ( straight through = reverse breakout, OCR ), the second part is only a notice that there are two diffrent types of cables (OCR and OCF)

[brwainer]

3 hours ago, Aekim said:

no in the first sentence it's classified as OCR ( straight through = reverse breakout, OCR ), the second part is only a notice that there are two diffrent types of cables (OCR and OCF)

Ah ok.  Well at this point I can't really say whether its your cable that's the problem or if you have a bad backplane. You'd have to test them by getting another cable or another backplane.

[TommyB]

On 8-4-2016 at 4:04 PM, TapfererToaster said:

 

Normal One-to-One SATA cables do not work with the backplane since the backplane only got a miniSAS connector.

Here is the manual with pictures of it inside:

http://www.chenbro.com/en-global/DownloadFile/download/190

 

I do have a an old seagate barracuda 1TB drive that didn't show up in FreeNas when i first connected it to my HBA. That drive still had a jumper for the SATA I / II settings.

I had to remove to jumper(setting it to SATA II) for the drive to show up. I doubt it is related to your case, since you got also got newer drives.. but it might be worth looking into parts beside the cable.

 

I.E: Does the backplane work at all? do the statuslights light up with connceted HDDs?

I meant one disk on the backplane and only one of the sata ports connected.