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The 960 is a poor value option. It performs 15% worse than a R9 380 and costs more. I'd say a Sapphire 380 Nitro 4GB is MUCH better value

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I'd aim for EVGA. Great cards and their customer service is good.

 

However, if you've got an i5, the R9 380 would be a better buy for gaming considering its higher performance.

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Just now, don_svetlio said:

The 960 is a poor value option. It performs 15% worse than a R9 380 and costs more. I'd say a Sapphire 380 Nitro 4GB is MUCH better value

if he has the psu to back it...

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1 minute ago, Epiclol86 said:

if he has the psu to back it...

R9 380 uses only 30W more. The 190W TDP is for TongaXT mainly - the 380X. The 380 at stock settings is around 150W. Why do I believe this? Look here.

The boards' overall power consumption from idle to load is excellent really. Expect an idle wattage of roughly 10 Watts and, when the monitor goes into power save mode, the card throttles down even lower towards 3 Watts. The TDP for the 7850 we measured at roughly 110W and the 7870 at 130 Watt.

AMD advertises the board power at 130W (7850) and 175W (7870), board power is different then the TDP. If you try and visualize the power control settings slider in the Catalyst center, then you'll realize that you can increase it 20% meaning at default the TDP is roughly 20% lower then AMD's 130W for the 7850 and 175W for the 7870.

  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 130Wx0.80=104W
  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 175Wx0.80=140W
As you can see, a 380 is around 140-150W stock and maybe 190W OCed to the max. 380X is around 170W stock and 200W-ish max OC.

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3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

R9 380 uses only 30W more. The 190W TDP is for TongaXT mainly - the 380X. The 380 at stock settings is around 150W. Why do I believe this? Look here.

The boards' overall power consumption from idle to load is excellent really. Expect an idle wattage of roughly 10 Watts and, when the monitor goes into power save mode, the card throttles down even lower towards 3 Watts. The TDP for the 7850 we measured at roughly 110W and the 7870 at 130 Watt.

AMD advertises the board power at 130W (7850) and 175W (7870), board power is different then the TDP. If you try and visualize the power control settings slider in the Catalyst center, then you'll realize that you can increase it 20% meaning at default the TDP is roughly 20% lower then AMD's 130W for the 7850 and 175W for the 7870.

  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 130Wx0.80=104W
  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 175Wx0.80=140W
As you can see, a 380 is around 140-150W stock and maybe 190W OCed to the max. 380X is around 170W stock and 200W-ish max OC.

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1 minute ago, lapiz_monzela said:

from you experience which r9 380 brand is good?

Sapphire, MSI, XFX, PowerColor, Club3D

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3 minutes ago, lapiz_monzela said:

from you experience which r9 380 brand is good?

Sapphire makes the best AMD cards, followed by XFX in my experience.

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5 minutes ago, lapiz_monzela said:

from you experience which r9 380 brand is good?

Sapphire is the best. Followed by MSI, XFX and Powercolor. Just avoid Gigabyte and ASUS and you should be fine.

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7 minutes ago, lapiz_monzela said:

from you experience which r9 380 brand is good?

MSI because they look sick

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16 minutes ago, lapiz_monzela said:

from you experience which r9 380 brand is good?

saphire. deff saphire. avoid asus

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1 hour ago, lapiz_monzela said:

Hello there, i want ask which one nvidia gtx960 is better msi, evga, gigabyte, asus or zotac.

 

I need you opinion.

I would go for a better r9 380 for around the same price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202166&cm_re=r9_380-_-14-202-166-_-Product

 

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Just now, lapiz_monzela said:

Any series of sapphire R9 380 is ok right?

 

yep. get the 4gb tho its worth it

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2 hours ago, Epiclol86 said:

if he has the psu to back it...

It is a legit concern that AMD fanboys hate to face.

Before anyone calls me an Nvidia fanboy, I dumped the 970 for a 390.

Yes, I had to get a beefy PSU to run the 390.

 

Temperature should also be a concern.  My 390 runs mid 70s without touching the factory fan curve.  The 970 I was evaluating never broke 60 degrees on silent mode.  Lord knows how high the 390 will get when the San Fernando Valley heat bakes my house at 108 degrees.

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2 hours ago, max_headroom said:

It is a legit concern that AMD fanboys hate to face.

Before anyone calls me an Nvidia fanboy, I dumped the 970 for a 390.

Yes, I had to get a beefy PSU to run the 390.

 

Temperature should also be a concern.  My 390 runs mid 70s without touching the factory fan curve.  The 970 I was evaluating never broke 60 degrees on silent mode.  Lord knows how high the 390 will get when the San Fernando Valley heat bakes my house at 108 degrees.

 

4 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

R9 380 uses only 30W more. The 190W TDP is for TongaXT mainly - the 380X. The 380 at stock settings is around 150W. Why do I believe this? Look here.

The boards' overall power consumption from idle to load is excellent really. Expect an idle wattage of roughly 10 Watts and, when the monitor goes into power save mode, the card throttles down even lower towards 3 Watts. The TDP for the 7850 we measured at roughly 110W and the 7870 at 130 Watt.

AMD advertises the board power at 130W (7850) and 175W (7870), board power is different then the TDP. If you try and visualize the power control settings slider in the Catalyst center, then you'll realize that you can increase it 20% meaning at default the TDP is roughly 20% lower then AMD's 130W for the 7850 and 175W for the 7870.

  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 130Wx0.80=104W
  • Reverse calculate that and at default the TDP for 7850 would be 175Wx0.80=140W
As you can see, a 380 is around 140-150W stock and maybe 190W OCed to the max. 380X is around 170W stock and 200W-ish max OC.

 

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