The New DDR4

[Gofer01]

When DDR4 RAM planned release date for the first quarter of 2014 for Desktops. Will they upgrade the 8GB sticks to 16GB and/or  32GB like for the current server registered DDR3 RAM?

 

Second question will DDR4 RAM sticks work in a DDR3 memory slot on a consumers level motherboard. (Home use / Game use)

 

The IDF Conference 2013 in San Francisco that ended last week, had several RAM vendors advertising thee new DDR4 memory. Unfortunately I didn't go to this conference, I only saw short YouTube videos of this conference.

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/23598/samsung_are_pushing_intel_to_launch_ddr4_ahead_of_its_2014_release_date/index.html

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20130912235007_G_Skill_Demonstrates_Its_First_DDR4_Memory_Modules.html

[Excon]

I doubt DDR4 will work in a DDR3 slot. I also don't think capacities will change that much.

[Mooshi]

I wouldn't even bother worrying about DDR4 RAM till at least 2 years from now. I bought 16GB of DDR3 1866mhz 9-9-9-27 for $116 back in Feb. That would have been unheard of back when the X58 platform was launched. DDR3 was so expensive that a 6GB kit was a small fortune. Wait until DDR3 starts being phased out before considering a DDR4 build.

[CoolBeans]

Adata leaked a single DDR4 32GB stick soooo yea

[Godlygamer23]

DDR4 will be like every other DDR generational release in that it won't be compatible with previous generations.

[Mooshi]

And then we can discuss DDR5 in a few years time and talk about how "slow" DDR4 was.

[Godlygamer23]

And then we can discuss DDR5 in a few years time and talk about how "slow" DDR4 was.

Every generational release of RAM is slower than the last when it comes to latencies.

[Gofer01]

I wouldn't even bother worrying about DDR4 RAM till at least 2 years from now. I bought 16GB of DDR3 1866mhz 9-9-9-27 for $116 back in Feb. That would have been unheard of back when the X58 platform was launched. DDR3 was so expensive that a 6GB kit was a small fortune. Wait until DDR3 starts being phased out before considering a DDR4 build.

Naw it is coming out within 6 months or less from 01/01/2014. As soon as Intel gives permission. That is what the Crucial Rep said to Kyle at the IDF Confernce in San Francisco last week. Samsung and G'Skill was showing off the DDR4 engineering samples too.  Linus or Paul wasn't at this conference but Newegg sent Kyle and Steve to the conference

[Mooshi]

Naw it is coming out within 6 months or less from 01/01/2014. As soon as Intel gives permission.

Yeah, but at what price?

 

DEPLOY THE EARLY ADOPTERS!

[JLCitadel]

Yeah, but at what price?

 

DEPLOY THE EARLY ADOPTERS!

 

a price not even close to worth it

[SheriffHD]

It will be nice, but for time being DDR3 will be more than enough for the next few years for gaming. Only really worth it for workstation machines.

[NinjaStyle013]

I have 1Gb of DDR2 ram in my current pc. If I had 32Gb i would probably cry in pure joy.

 

I jsut realized with these massive memory amounts ramdisks will become alot more common...

[Gofer01]

And then we can discuss DDR5 in a few years time and talk about how "slow" DDR4 was.

DDR5 is already here. It't been here some time now. We use it in graphic cards. DDR5 is not stable enough for desktops and severs

[Gofer01]

It will be nice, but for time being DDR3 will be more than enough for the next few years for gaming. Only really worth it for workstation machines.

You are absolutely right. I never said or will be a gamer. I'm a graphic designer and and website developer as my trade, and going back to school to learn video production. hence I want a high powered workstation for video editing and processing.

 

I link up with the gaming community because they were into the best CPU's, RAM, and Graphic Cards all the stuff that I wanted.

[Godlygamer23]

DDR5 is already here. It't been here some time now. We use it in graphic cards. DDR5 is not stable enough for desktops and severs

It is not DDR5. It is GDDR5. GDDR and DDR are very different.

[SheriffHD]

You are absolutely right. I never said or will be a gamer. I'm a graphic designer and and website developer as my trade, and going back to school to learn video production. hence I want a high powered workstation for video editing and processing.

 

I link up with the gaming community because they were into the best CPU's, RAM, and Graphic Cards all the stuff that I wanted.

 

fair enough then, Yeah PC gamers are tech obsessed.....We like to tinker

I Have two rigs my self, one I use for gaming, and one I use for editing and animation (3ds max/After effects/Nuke) so I do like having alot of ram....although too poor to buy more than 16gb

[Hoppa]

DDR5 is already here. It't been here some time now. We use it in graphic cards. DDR5 is not stable enough for desktops and severs

GDDR5 and 4 is based off DDR3 technology

GDDR 3 and 2 I think is based off DDR2 technology

[Godlygamer23]

GDDR5 and 4 is based off DDR3 technology

They are still different. In fact, All generations of DDR are Double Data Rate while GDDR5 is actually QDR(quad data rate).

[Gofer01]

Yeah, but at what price?

 

DEPLOY THE EARLY ADOPTERS!

I have no clue. and I'm not very worried about the price right now. When it come time to purchase the RAM then I will worry about the price. I just built two systems in the pass 7 months. I will not build another system for maybe 2 years even if the new DDR4 RAM will not work in my current builds.

[Hoppa]

They are still different. In fact, All generations of DDR are Double Data Rate while GDDR5 is actually QDR(quad data rate).

Yes I know they are completely different, but they still based it off DDR3

[Gofer01]

It is not DDR5. It is GDDR5. GDDR and DDR are very different.

lol you right. I never really look at the spelling of GDDR. I always thought it said DDR5

[Gofer01]

Yes I know they are completely different, but they still based it off DDR3

Second post it says GDDR. G means graphic DDR means system RAM. So my original post stands. DDR5 is not stable enough for Desktops or Servers.. I think I quoting J.J. from ASUS on his blog. I read his post several month ago. I have no way in finding that hyperlink.

[A/C]

Adata leaked a single DDR4 32GB stick soooo yea

 

Yeah I saw that, doubt it will be for mass market, seeing how big and clumsy it is...

 

Still I don't think DDR4 is the future, HMC is.

[malaki]

DDR5 is already here. It't been here some time now. We use it in graphic cards. DDR5 is not stable enough for desktops and severs

 

I'm pretty sure Samsung was experimenting with RAM sticks using DDR5, they all blew up in their faces

[DeGumbia]

I understand that DDR4 won't run in a DDR3 mobo, question is will DDR3 run in a DDR4 mobo, you know upgrading to a new platform where little to no existing parts can be used gets expensive quick.  Especially when you are a bit short on funds for the bleeding edge parts, and have to settle on a temporary piece just to get the machine running in the meanwhile.

 

Yeah, I know, if you can't afford bleeding edge you shouldn't be buying them... I'm silly like that!