AMD V.S NVIDIA

[JORDANonPC]

Fanboys to your stations!

 

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I imagine fanboys crawling like peter does to their keyboards in your avatar now

[threadysparrow]

I imagine fanboys crawling like peter does to their keyboards in your avatar now

LOL I actually laughed

[CoolBeans]

It's not fastest GPU on the market. It's just 2x 7970 on one PCB, that's 2x GPU in Crossfire.

 

7990 =/= fastest GPU. Titan is the fastest right now. 7990 is only a dual GPU solution, nothing fancy and no miracles. You can't crossfire 4x 7990 but you can do that with Titan.

I meant to say card, but whatever

[mgsstar]

I wish people would stop making these topics we should have linus' video pinned already if it isn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5fi3ARXWKc

Another video by techoftomorrow:

 

AMD gpus have the best price to performance ratio but Nvidia cards are great for their Physx and CUDA cores. Personally would go with AMD cards if I had a choice between these since Nvidia drivers are kinda buggy imo.

[Mr. Expert]

 

 Nvidia cards are great for their Physx and CUDA cores.

Physx is in very very few games. Cuda cores is just a marketing word coined by nvidia. AMD has Stream Processors and nvidia has Cuda cores just like Intel has there own ver of CPU cores and AMD has modules they are all the same thing. Also that's an old video AMD has better and more game developer relations now in day's and it will become better in the future because of the console market.

[eshbop]

This is why this AMD v Nvidia thing is so ridiculous.

 

Previously it may have been different but currently they are both quite equal. Picking the best card is entirely subjective as both brands have things going for them that the other doesn't and what is best depends on the situation.

 

AMD cards are usually cheaper than Nvidia. If you wanted the best single GPU experience for as cheap as possible then AMD is the go, you might miss out on things like GPU Boost 2.0, though this may mean nothing as the AMD card could still achieve better price:performance than the Nvidia equivalent. 

For dual cards Nvidia is still best and will continue to be until AMD implement hardware controlled frame-pacing. 

Want CUDA accleration? then you need Nvidia. If you want to fold or mine then AMD is much better.

Drivers for each company are quiet good these days, I don't think you can hate on AMD drivers after the huge fixes that 13.11b have had on Crossfire, they know what they're doing.

AMD shares it's tech (eg AA types, TressFX, etc), Nvidia keeps it proprietary (eg TXAA) so if you want to use it you pick them.

 

Neither is outright better than the other. There are situations were AMD is the better choice and vice versa.

[Stonep11]

wait till 9XXX series from AMD 

or the damn confusing Rx-2xx series

[Stonep11]

I feel like I have more faith in Nvidia as AMD was a bit shaky over the last few years.  I think AMD overs a very good solution, the higher power draws and larger cores may be a turn-off if you are going for a SFF build or something, but for a mid-range, mid-size gaming rig, I would go AMD.  Nvidia cards are typically more streamlined (they are efficient, cooler, and very powerful).   They also push out incredible technologies like GPU Boost 2.0, shadowplay, and the Nvidia experiance (all recent).  As has been said above, they have also typically had better multi-GPU support (recently AMD changed this trend a bit with a big crossfire update).  If you are going for pure power (multi-GPU or highest end cards) OR if ultra small form factor building (670 mini or a 760 mini) is your game, go Nvidia.  I think the AMD vs. Nvidia battle is a lot like AMD vs. Intel, people just have a lot more faith in Intel, even though for many, many people AMD would probably be a cheaper, equally good experience.  In the end, each company will match each-others GPU power, but additional technologies will be the deciding factor to consider.

[jeffrey_rodriguez]

I think the letter "U" in his keyboard does not work.....

[AraSarkisyan]

or the damn confusing Rx-2xx series

lol wut? The 9XXX series is the new generation of cards their releasing next month.

[Mr. Expert]

I feel like I have more faith in Nvidia as AMD was a bit shaky over the last few years.

Actually the 7xxx series has been the best so far from AMD Radeon HD as it has the best price to performance and driver support that has ever been offered. Not to mention Never settle Bundles and a bunch of AAA Game developer relationships and console monopoly. 

I think AMD overs a very good solution, the higher power draws and larger cores may be a turn-off if you are going for a SFF build or something, but for a mid-range, mid-size gaming rig, I would go AMD.

Actually nvidia with the 7xx series has the highest power draw throwing back to the day's of GTX 480/580 however at the same time the 780/Titan are faster than anything else right now but the catch is they are extremely over priced for the performance you get.

 

Nvidia cards are typically more streamlined (they are efficient, cooler, and very powerful). 

 Again the 7xx is more power hungry and not any cooler than comparable offerings from AMD.

 

They also push out incredible technologies like GPU Boost 2.0, shadowplay, and the Nvidia experiance (all recent).

All are really just kinda gimmicky features.

 

I think the AMD vs. Nvidia battle is a lot like AMD vs. Intel, people just have a lot more faith in Intel, even though for many, many people AMD would probably be a cheaper, equally good experience.

AMD has acquired Ati, all next gen consoles, developed major game developer relations, and is doing all the right things gearing toward total PC, console and game developer market domination. The only powerful thing that nvidia has going for them in the PC gaming realm is their marketing department but I predict we will see how it goes in the next 6 months to a year as the new consoles take over and so does AMD with the acquisition of most to all of the game developer relationships and streamlined drivers and game code that are tailor made to play nicely on AMD hardware both CPU and GPU and APU consoles and PC alike.     

[Kuzma]

It's not fastest GPU on the market. It's just 2x 7970 on one PCB, that's 2x GPU in Crossfire.

 

7990 =/= fastest GPU. Titan is the fastest right now. 7990 is only a dual GPU solution, nothing fancy and no miracles. You can't crossfire 4x 7990 but you can do that with Titan.

the 7990 is however the fastest single CARD which is what I believe he was reffering to

[Kuzma]

Actually the 7xxx series has been the best so far from AMD Radeon HD as it has the best price to performance and driver support that has ever been offered. Not to mention Never settle Bundles and a bunch of AAA Game developer relationships and console monopoly. 

Actually nvidia with the 7xx series has the highest power draw throwing back to the day's of GTX 480/580 however at the same time the 780/Titan are faster than anything else right now but the catch is they are extremely over priced for the performance you get.

 

 Again the 7xx is more power hungry and not any cooler than comparable offerings from AMD.

 

All are really just kinda gimmicky features.

 

AMD has acquired Ati, all next gen consoles, developed major game developer relations, and is doing all the right things gearing toward total PC, console and game developer market domination. The only powerful thing that nvidia has going for them in the PC gaming realm is their marketing department but I predict we will see how it goes in the next 6 months to a year as the new consoles take over and so does AMD with the acquisition of most to all of the game developer relationships and streamlined drivers and game code that are tailor made to play nicely on AMD hardware both CPU and GPU and APU consoles and PC alike.     

The fanboy is obvious but from a developers point of view I have to admit that CUDA is an awful lot cleaner to code than OpenCL just my two cents

[Mr. Expert]

The fanboy is obvious but from a developers point of view I have to admit that CUDA is an awful lot cleaner to code than OpenCL just my two cents

Well that's the thing. AMD is catering to the gamer and end user. nvidia is doing whatever they are which is what I am still trying to understand. Shild is not moving PC gaming forward but it is trying to consolize the PC experience which is a very stupid and greedy move. I am no fan boy cause I would say the same if AMD was the culprit of these travesties. nvidia has always been greedy and a hindrance to invocation with all the proprietary junk they try and promote. My prediction is that nvidia fail's hard within the next few years which is a good thing as we don't need to turn PC gaming into a console type thing.  

[TheSLSAMG]

Well that's the thing. AMD is catering to the gamer and end user. nvidia is doing whatever they are which is what I am still trying to understand. Shild is not moving PC gaming forward but it is trying to consolize the PC experience which is a very stupid and greedy move. I am no fan boy cause I would say the same if AMD was the culprit of these travesties. nvidia has always been greedy and a hindrance to invocation with all the proprietary junk they try and promote. My prediction is that nvidia fail's hard within the next few years which is a good thing as we don't need to turn PC gaming into a console type thing.  

I am officially dead. Do you not understand the idea of competition? The reason AMD makes cheap cards is because THEY HAVE NVIDIA AS COMPETITION. Eliminating Nvidia would ruin the GPU market. How can one be so naive? Shield is a nifty piece of tech that can help more portable PC gaming, and enable a good gaming experience on the go. You are clearly taking sides here. That may be what this is about, but there is no need to spread lies.

[Dravic]

I am officially dead. Do you not understand the idea of competition? The reason AMD makes cheap cards is because THEY HAVE NVIDIA AS COMPETITION. Eliminating Nvidia would ruin the GPU market. How can one be so naive? Shield is a nifty piece of tech that can help more portable PC gaming, and enable a good gaming experience on the go. You are clearly taking sides here. That may be what this is about, but there is no need to spread lies.

Exactly, agreed.

 

@Mr. Expert doesn't even know what kind of harm would death of Nvidia bring on us.

Do you really believe that if FX CPUs from AMD were actually faster than Intel's offerings, AMD would not price them at same or even higher price point than Intel's offerings?

Do you really believe that if it was AMD who invented GK110 chip and Kepler architecture in 2012 they would've hesitated to overprice it?

[Mr. Expert]

I am officially dead. Do you not understand the idea of competition? The reason AMD makes cheap cards is because THEY HAVE NVIDIA AS COMPETITION. Eliminating Nvidia would ruin the GPU market. How can one be so naive? Shield is a nifty piece of tech that can help more portable PC gaming, and enable a good gaming experience on the go. You are clearly taking sides here. That may be what this is about, but there is no need to spread lies.

Shield is a cleaver way to consolize and lock down PC gaming so that nvidia controls it all. I hope more people are not so naive and can see this. Sheild is a stab at AMD to try and take back what AMD took from nvidia imo which is the consoles and soon enough most game developer relationships. The only way GPU accelerated Physx will still be possible is through PC only games that are nvidia branded so basically none. PC gaming has never been portable and should never be portable as it's not the intended idea. If you want portable buy a handheld. If you want a fully customized cutting edge experience then you want a desktop gaming PC. The thing that shield disrespect's is PC gaming at it core foundation of what makes it great and that is choice and flexibility to configure your PC anyway your choose within any budget you set or can afford. If shield becomes a mainstay and hypothetically took over the only choice and opinion you would have is what ISP you choose to go with and that's not what system building and being a PC/Gamer/system builder enthusiast is about. Sheild is nothing more than Xbox Live without the Xbox and that's not something we need not to mention the bandwidth needed to stream HQ PC games over the net is not a reality for all people today in fact it's not even close. I hope you can see where I am coming from and that is from the point of view as a PC gamer and hardware enthusiast. nvidia shield is trying to take away the hardware enthusiast aspect out of PC gaming and to me that's one of the most fun and important aspects of PC gaming that sets it apart from consoles. I want to have max control over the quality of my PC gaming experience and sheild will not let me do that.       

[Mr. Expert]

@Mr. Expert doesn't even know what kind of harm would death of Nvidia bring on us.

Do you really believe that if FX CPUs from AMD were actually faster than Intel's offerings, AMD would not price them at same or even higher price point than Intel's offerings?

HD 7970 is faster than GTX 680/670 and it's priced much lower than them both. Competition is a joke. It's people's willingness to pay for hardware that will determine the price and performance offered. Competition is an illusion.

[Exotath]

[Mr. Expert]

 

^ another way to say you have no clue.

[JORDANonPC]

lol wut? The 9XXX series is the new generation of cards their releasing next month.

someone hasn't seen the new naming scheme

[Jumper118]

folding=nvidia

mining=amd

free games=amd

physix=nvidia

crysis 3+tomb raider=amd

metro last light+batman=nvidia

 

pic which things you like best and base it on that the you will always have the best card for what you want to do with it.

[Stonep11]

lol wut? The 9XXX series is the new generation of cards their releasing next month.

Check the tech news thread, they are changing up the naming scheme.

[TBoti]

Why do people still bring this up? Both companies make outstanding GPUs. You just have to choose one based on your budget and your needs.

 

I've had cards from both nvidia and ati. I've always chosen the company that had the newer generation. That usually meant they were leading at that point. Since I need CUDA I'm sticking to nvidia.

[TheSLSAMG]

Shield is a cleaver way to consolize and lock down PC gaming so that nvidia controls it all. I hope more people are not so naive and can see this. Sheild is a stab at AMD to try and take back what AMD took from nvidia imo which is the consoles and soon enough most game developer relationships. The only way GPU accelerated Physx will still be possible is through PC only games that are nvidia branded so basically none. PC gaming has never been portable and should never be portable as it's not the intended idea. If you want portable buy a handheld. If you want a fully customized cutting edge experience then you want a desktop gaming PC. The thing that shield disrespect's is PC gaming at it core foundation of what makes it great and that is choice and flexibility to configure your PC anyway your choose within any budget you set or can afford. If shield becomes a mainstay and hypothetically took over the only choice and opinion you would have is what ISP you choose to go with and that's not what system building and being a PC/Gamer/system builder enthusiast is about. Sheild is nothing more than Xbox Live without the Xbox and that's not something we need not to mention the bandwidth needed to stream HQ PC games over the net is not a reality for all people today in fact it's not even close. I hope you can see where I am coming from and that is from the point of view as a PC gamer and hardware enthusiast. nvidia shield is trying to take away the hardware enthusiast aspect out of PC gaming and to me that's one of the most fun and important aspects of PC gaming that sets it apart from consoles. I want to have max control over the quality of my PC gaming experience and sheild will not let me do that.       

 

Wow, you are one big conspiracy theorist, aren't you?