Windowed Borderless Solves Screen Tearing?

[Guilty Baby]

So I've noticed that games where I suffer from screen tearing (such as MGSV and JC3), switching to windowed borderless solves the issue.

 

Is this true and if so, why isn't this a 'thing' a separate option in the menus? I mean it doesn't suffer from input lag like v-sync (i think) and it doesn't cap the framerate so it would be like magic-sync right?

 

 

[CGurrell]

Check that your FPS is the same in both situations. I've had FPS drop by 10-15 frames by being in borderless compared to windowed, and in most situations that's a bad thing, but if you're getting tearing and borderless solves it, that could be why. You FPS may have dropped enough to stop tearing, but not enough to go below the refresh rate of the monitor

[Guilty Baby]

4 minutes ago, CGurrell said:

Check that your FPS is the same in both situations. I've had FPS drop by 10-15 frames by being in borderless compared to windowed, and in most situations that's a bad thing, but if you're getting tearing and borderless solves it, that could be why. You FPS may have dropped enough to stop tearing, but not enough to go below the refresh rate of the monitor

I've seen people mention that but I never notice losing frames in borderless. Maybe it is a GPU or 8.1 thing? I still get around 70 for JC3.

Edit: Do you know why frames are lost in borderless?

[FilipSebik]

I guess it reduces screen tearing because in HL1 fullscreen 300FPS is fully teared like paper and borderless is tottaly solid

[Minzo]

18 minutes ago, Guilty Baby said:

 Do you know why frames are lost in borderless?

IIRC it's because you have to render everything behind the game. Windows and all applications.

[Guilty Baby]

So based on everyone's answer, does that mean windowed borderless really shouldn't solve tearing?

[SirDucksallot]

I had Borderless solve tearing for me too,with next to none fps loss.

[Necrodead]

14 hours ago, Guilty Baby said:

So based on everyone's answer, does that mean windowed borderless really shouldn't solve tearing?

If you are in fullsceen vsync only works with framerates divisible by your refresh rate, so 60, 30, 15. If you are at a different rate, like 59 or 58, vsync will have to drop to 30fps to sync properly. Right now this is a problem that microsoft is working on, for the time being they have said to run programs in borderless windowed mode to fix.